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  • FRIDAY JUNE 3 2005 7:05 PM

Administration Confirms Quran Abuse. What a Surprise!

Submitted by Stiles

Edited by MissTyrios

The Pentagon confirmed five cases of Quran abuse by US personnel, including instances of soliders and interrogators stepping on and kicking the Muslim holy book.

The findings, released after normal business hours Friday evening, are among the results of an investigation last month by Brig. Gen. Jay Hood, the commander of the detention center in Cuba. The probe was triggered by a Newsweek magazine report -- later retracted -- that a U.S. soldier had flushed one Guantanamo Bay detainee's Quran down a toilet.


Perhaps to reduce the sting of the admissions, Hood also claimed some detainees had mistreated their own Qurans:

"These included using a Quran as a pillow, ripping pages out of the Quran, attempting to flush a Quran down the toilet and urinating on the Quran," Hood's report said. It offered no possible explanation for the detainees' motives.

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effstop

effstop

Las Vegas, NV
June 2004

JUN 03, 2005 07:17 PM

so much for a big government/military cover-up. something happened, and it was investigated, and reported to the public. (sorry you government-shy conspiracy theorists) wink

the military isn't perfect, we have bad apples just like anyone else. sucks, but sadly it only takes a couple retards to make everyone else look bad.

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

I'm lost
November 2003

JUN 03, 2005 07:17 PM

Anyone seen Patrick?

Johnny844

Johnny844

San Francisco, CA
May 2005

JUN 03, 2005 07:18 PM

I am lost. Where is the restroom?

jayenh

jayenh

Fairbanks, AK
March 2004

JUN 03, 2005 07:22 PM

My perfect world was just shattered.

freshprncebelair

freshprncebelair

Ellicott City, MD
June 2004

JUN 03, 2005 07:27 PM

fstop said:
so much for a big government/military cover-up. something happened, and it was investigated, and reported to the public. (sorry you government-shy conspiracy theorists) wink

the military isn't perfect, we have bad apples just like anyone else. sucks, but sadly it only takes a couple retards to make everyone else look bad.




Well that explanation ruins the fun frown

robosagogo

robosagogo

State College, PA
September 2004

JUN 03, 2005 07:29 PM

Does Newsweek retract their retraction, then?

Michael_J_Totten

Michael_J_Totten

Iraq
February 2004

JUN 03, 2005 07:30 PM

Unfortunate, but not terribly surprising. Worse things than this have been done in these places.

jayenh

jayenh

Fairbanks, AK
March 2004

JUN 03, 2005 07:31 PM

robosagogo said:
Does Newsweek retract their retraction, then?


Truth is an absolute defense against libel, but not bad reportage.

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

JUN 03, 2005 07:35 PM

fstop said:
so much for a big government/military cover-up. something happened, and it was investigated, and reported to the public. (sorry you government-shy conspiracy theorists) wink

the military isn't perfect, we have bad apples just like anyone else. sucks, but sadly it only takes a couple retards to make everyone else look bad.



You have got to be fucking joking. Leaving aside the incessant chorus of "Newsweek lied!" we've had to endure for weeks now, just how many fucking "isolated incidents" do you fuckers need before you figure out you're in the goddamn forest/?

MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

JUN 03, 2005 07:38 PM

robosagogo said:
Does Newsweek retract their retraction, then?



There's no confirmation that a US soldier actually flushed a Quran down the toilet. The source himself has said he's "not sure the story is true." They can't re-instate that (and they would be smart not to embark on any sort of "I told you so" campaign, which I highly doubt they would anyway). There have been abuses, that particular abuse has just not been proven. This announcement will certainly be played down or ignored by Bush officially, but it does highlight how absurd he acted in raising hell about the story in the first place.

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

JUN 03, 2005 07:39 PM

joe_n_bloe said:

robosagogo said:
Does Newsweek retract their retraction, then?


Truth is an absolute defense against libel, but not bad reportage.



So, what exactly is "bad reportage" about a highly placed anonymous source who said "I have read a report that confirms this to be true." and lo and behold the report is finally and quietly released as soon as the furor dies down?

jayenh

jayenh

Fairbanks, AK
March 2004

JUN 03, 2005 07:43 PM

MissTyrios said:
This announcement will certainly be played down or ignored by Bush officially, but it does highlight how absurd he acted in raising hell about the story in the first place.


Being blind in your convictions and unequivocal in your rhetoric is now the American way. frown

Holden_Caulfield

Holden_Caulfield

Ann Arbor, MI
April 2004

JUN 03, 2005 07:44 PM

MissTyrios said:

robosagogo said:
Does Newsweek retract their retraction, then?



There's no confirmation that a US soldier actually flushed a Quran down the toilet. The source himself has said he's "not sure the story is true." They can't re-instate that (and they would be smart not to embark on any sort of "I told you so" campaign, which I highly doubt they would anyway). There have been abuses, that particular abuse has just not been proven. This announcement will certainly be played down or ignored by Bush officially, but it does highlight how absurd he acted in raising hell about the story in the first place.



No, but there is confirmation that the Quran was kicked and stepped on during interrogations. There is also evidence that the Quran was bombed with water balloons and splashed with urine. Go figure. whatever

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

JUN 03, 2005 07:47 PM

MissTyrios said:

robosagogo said:
Does Newsweek retract their retraction, then?



There's no confirmation that a US soldier actually flushed a Quran down the toilet..



From the article:


In the most recent confirmed case Hood said a detainee complained on March 25, 2005, of urine splashing on him and his Quran. An unidentified guard admitted at the time that "he was at fault," the Hood report said, although it did not say whether the act was deliberate.



What, did the prisoner and his Quran accidentally crawl in front of the guard while he was relieving himself?

MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

JUN 03, 2005 07:48 PM

Holden_Caulfield said:

MissTyrios said:

robosagogo said:
Does Newsweek retract their retraction, then?



There's no confirmation that a US soldier actually flushed a Quran down the toilet. The source himself has said he's "not sure the story is true." They can't re-instate that (and they would be smart not to embark on any sort of "I told you so" campaign, which I highly doubt they would anyway). There have been abuses, that particular abuse has just not been proven. This announcement will certainly be played down or ignored by Bush officially, but it does highlight how absurd he acted in raising hell about the story in the first place.



No, but there is confirmation that the Quran was kicked and stepped on during interrogations. There is also evidence that the Quran was bombed with water balloons and splashed with urine. Go figure. whatever




Oh, I am not arguing with the basic point that abuses occurred, and that the flushing incident probably did as well. I'm just suggesting that Newsweek probably won't jump on a high horse of vindication, considering the publicity it received over the story originally. Even though this certainly mitigates their situation, I'm guessing they're going to be keeping a fairly low profile for a while.

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