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  • WEDNESDAY MAY 25 2005 7:06 PM

ACLU - "Newsweek Got It Right."

According to documents recently declassified by the FBI, prisoners at the Bush Administration's favorite torture facility, told interrogators as early as April 2002 about abuse by guards and desecration of the Koran.

The records, obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union under the Freedom of Information Act, purport to detail guards flushing the Koran in the toilet. Others reported the Koran being kicked, withheld as punishment, and thrown on the floor, and said they were mocked during prayers. And

in the documents released today, one detainee informs his FBI interviewers that using the Koran "as a reprisal or as an incentive for cooperation has failed," and that the only result would be "the damage caused to the reputation of the United States once what had occurred was released to the world." While another detainee acknowledged that there might be "a legitimate need to search the book for hidden items," he objected to the abusive manner in which the searches were conducted.


The ACLU issued a press release today, stating that

The United States government’s own documents show that it has known of numerous allegations of Koran desecration for a significant period of time... [and] its failure to address these allegations in a timely manner raises grave questions regarding the extent to which such desecration was authorized by high-ranking U.S. officials in the first place.


Certainly it is reasonable to assume that the usual suspects who rail against the liberal media at every available opportunity in order to distract from the Bush Administration's litany of failures, will publicly apologize for their hackish and partisan "assessment" of Newseek's story of abuse at Guantánamo Bay. Scott McClellan will most likely follow suit for the White House's bullying of Newsweek and other publications.

 

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Holden_Caulfield

Holden_Caulfield

Ann Arbor, MI
April 2004

MAY 25, 2005 07:15 PM

Who's blaming the "liberal media" now?!? mad

I wonder whether Newsweek will retract their retraction? Is there such a thing? confused

*Edited for punctuation*

[Edited on May 25, 2005 10:15PM]

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

MAY 25, 2005 07:22 PM

I'll say it again. I heart the ACLU sometimes. smile

-TM

tenmile

tenmile

Minneapolis, MN
January 2004

MAY 25, 2005 07:27 PM



Certainly it is reasonable to assume that the usual suspects who rail against the liberal media at every available opportunity in order to distract from the Bush Administration's litany of failures, will publicly apologize for their hackish and partisan "assessment" of Newseek's story of abuse at Guantánamo Bay. Scott McClellan will most likely follow suit for the White House's bullying of Newsweek and other publications.



Ha! Apology accepted Lasswell.

hebeighost

hebeighost

USA
June 2004

MAY 25, 2005 07:33 PM

I like the ACLU. They are equal opportunity pigfuckers. They throw wrenches in everyones spokes, not just the ones they don't like.

Wohoo!
NASCAR!

SomethingStupid

SomethingStupid

North Hollywood, CA
March 2004

MAY 25, 2005 07:40 PM

hebeighost said:
I like the ACLU. They are equal opportunity pigfuckers. They throw wrenches in everyones spokes, not just the ones they don't like.


In theory. I considered joining them for a while, but they send me these letters that suggest I join the ACLU, throwing around all sorts of political rhetoric. While part of me knows that they're just appealing to me because they know I'm a Democrat and are sending this stuff to make it sound like they're a liberal rights organization, I still get irked by it and think that if they're going to make their members Democrats, they're going to be more lenient with Democrats. Which I don't like. It makes me distrust them to some extent.

Edit: I am strictly discussing the ACLU in this post. I don't doubt that this story is true.

[Edited on May 25, 2005 by TedKoppel]

ApostropheNow

ApostropheNow

Skull Valley, AZ
April 2004

MAY 25, 2005 07:59 PM

hm, first time I've ever seen two news stories on the boards at the same time contradict each other.

JonnyJonnyH

JonnyJonnyH

Seattle, WA
June 2003

MAY 25, 2005 08:27 PM

ApostropheNow said:
hm, first time I've ever seen two news stories on the boards at the same time contradict each other.



Consider this one a retraction.

SomethingStupid

SomethingStupid

North Hollywood, CA
March 2004

MAY 25, 2005 08:30 PM

ApostropheNow said:
hm, first time I've ever seen two news stories on the boards at the same time contradict each other.


They don't. Newsweek retracted their story after their source dropped out on them. The ACLU found documents supporting the charges made in the article. This is just more information on the same story.

[Edited on May 25, 2005 by TedKoppel]

Doghouse_Reilly

doghouse_reilly

I'm lost
February 2004

MAY 25, 2005 08:58 PM

I guess the right-wing talking points on this story haven't been distributed yet.

skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

MAY 25, 2005 08:59 PM

From another story on the same subject:

Former detainees and a lawyer for current prisoners previously have stated that U.S. personnel at Guantanamo had placed the Koran in a toilet, but the Pentagon last week said it did not view those allegations as credible.

"Unfortunately, one thing we've learned over the last couple of years is that detainee statements about their treatment at Guantanamo and other detention centers sometimes have turned out to be more credible than U.S. government statements," said ACLU lawyer Jameel Jaffer.



Hahahaha.

hypoxian

hypoxian

I'm lost
August 2004

MAY 25, 2005 09:06 PM

Despite the findings to be credible, Newsweek should have thought about the arab world reaction before releasing a story like that.

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

MAY 25, 2005 09:24 PM

moonchilded said:
Despite the findings to be credible, Newsweek should have thought about the arab world reaction before releasing a story like that.



cuz, you know, a national AMERICAN newspaper is totally responsible for the reactions of nationals of foreign countries.

surreal

LiquidYogi

LiquidYogi

Claremont, CA
September 2003

MAY 25, 2005 09:30 PM

I just like how Newsweek lies...its horrendous...HORRIBLE theres NO TRUTH to ANY of it.

Yet the Pentagon lies about Tillman, use him as a recruitment tool, and its not bad at all. What the hell is with that?

Oh wait shut up, Michael Jackson is on TV again, nothing else matters.

LiquidYogi

LiquidYogi

Claremont, CA
September 2003

MAY 25, 2005 09:32 PM

I just like how Newsweek lies...its horrendous...HORRIBLE theres NO TRUTH to ANY of it.

Yet the Pentagon lies about Tillman, use him as a recruitment tool, and its not bad at all. What the hell is with that?

Oh wait shut up, Michael Jackson is on TV again, nothing else matters.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAY 25, 2005 09:34 PM

moonchilded said:
Despite the findings to be credible, Newsweek should have thought about the arab world reaction before releasing a story like that.



That's not really how freedom of the press works.

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