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U.S. Kids Don't Understand Freedom of Speech

TUESDAY FEBRUARY 1 2005 10:00 PM

Submitted by asreal1. Edited By legionnaire.

A University of Conneticut study of over 100000 highschool students in the United States has shown that most kids think that flag burning is a crime or that the government should be able to censor newspaper articles. The problem is more serious than that, though:

When asked whether people should be allowed to express unpopular views, 97 percent of teachers and 99 percent of school principals said yes. Only 83 percent of students did.

Three in four students said flag burning is illegal. It's not. About half the students said the government can restrict any indecent material on the Internet. It can't.


What does this say about U.S. highschool kids? Would the results be the same in other countries with similar protection of free speech? The CNN article seems to suggest that indifference is the problem, but could the cause be a growing disappointment in democracy and a move toward more extreme politics?

 

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starguitar

starguitar

Chicago, IL
August 2004

FEB 01, 2005 10:08 PM

Perhaps it's because they have spent their formative years in a country run by a climate of fear that privileges "backing our troops" over legitimate and legal dissent.

MisterGraves

MisterGraves

Portland, OR
November 2003

FEB 01, 2005 10:15 PM

I wish that when people typed out large numbers they'd just use scientific notation. I don't like to see so many zeros.

But on topic:
I thought flag burning was illegal when I was in high school, too. And that was like, a decade ago. I thought it was illegal because the people I grew up around thought it was wrong... and I equated wrong with illegal. It happens when you grow up in an isolated redneck town, like much of America does.

0TheAmazingRando

0TheAmazingRando

Malibu, CA
September 2003

FEB 01, 2005 10:24 PM

Just because you live in "a climate of fear" or in an "isolated redneck town," doesn't mean you can't be informed!

If 100,000 were surveyed, the problem is more than just rednecks - it means America is not informed. There's an easy solution to not being informed - being educated. The article DOES go on to quote educators as saying, "Schools don't do enough to teach the First Amendment. Students often don't know the rights it protects."

While this might not be the only cause, it's the most immediate and direct.

AceTracer

AceTracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

FEB 01, 2005 10:25 PM

These are the same kids that can't point to Florida on a map.

Luckily the current administration is committed to improving education by giving up on it. Let's train them to pass a test instead.

burstandbloom

burstandbloom

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

FEB 01, 2005 10:26 PM

i think government officials and the FCC and pundits and whoever else
bark their stupid opinions about how what somebody said was offensive
so often
that kids think it must be wrong

fuck the FCC

lytdrifter

lytdrifter

Alhambra, CA
June 2003

FEB 01, 2005 10:32 PM

I'm not too surprised by these findings. High school kids are used to having authority everywhere and rarely question it in any meaningful way other than just childish rebellion.

Anton

Anton

Australia
September 2003

FEB 01, 2005 10:34 PM

Isn't this story the same as this story?

taxi_driver

taxi_driver

I'm lost
July 2003

FEB 01, 2005 10:44 PM

civics needs to be taught in high school. all four years.

AbeVigoda

AbeVigoda

Providence, RI
August 2003

FEB 01, 2005 11:14 PM

Anton said:
Isn't this story the same as this story?




Was going to say the same thing. It was also discussed at length in this thread.

waxangel

waxangel

Baltimore, MD
May 2003

FEB 01, 2005 11:20 PM

Education is obviously not the way to win the "War on Terrorism (TM)."


Also known as the "War on Dissenting Political Opinions."

MisterGraves

MisterGraves

Portland, OR
November 2003

FEB 01, 2005 11:52 PM

0TheAmazingRando said:
Just because you live in "a climate of fear" or in an "isolated redneck town," doesn't mean you can't be informed!



Really? And you know this how?

I grew up in a town of 400 people. My information sources were:
1. The TV (we didn't have cable)
2. The radio (amazingly enough NPR never told me that flag burning was legal)
3. townsfolk (rednecks)

We didn't have a library. We didn't have the internet. We didn't even have a streetlight.

While America has changed since I was in high school and now even most rural towns have internet access (the way I'd assume most rural people would stay Informed), many still only use the internet for chatting, email and porn.

All I'm saying is that the results of this survey don't suprise me.


Artsitis

Artsitis

Vancouver, BC
December 2004

FEB 02, 2005 12:04 AM

A large pecentage of people have never travelled more than 5 miles from their home, and many think president=god (always correct, omnipresent) - and think education is for people too lazy to work hard and weirdo liberals...

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Vancouver, WA
August 2002

FEB 02, 2005 12:50 AM

asreal said:
The CNN article seems to suggest that indifference is the problem, but could the cause be a growing disappointment in democracy and a move toward more extreme politics?


Asreal, I don't know if you've ever hung out with American high school students, but I think you're giving them way, way, WAY too much credit here. Most of them just want to do well enough on tests so no one yells at them, and then get the fuck out of there.

"What makes you say this, Stan?"

I'm a product of American public schools (many of them, in fact), and that's just about all I saw, including myself. Most American kids just want to fill in some answers on a sheet so they can go home and piss off their parents somehow.

Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

FEB 02, 2005 12:53 AM

MisterSatan said:

asreal said:
The CNN article seems to suggest that indifference is the problem, but could the cause be a growing disappointment in democracy and a move toward more extreme politics?


Asreal, I don't know if you've ever hung out with American high school students, but I think you're giving them way, way, WAY too much credit here. Most of them just want to do well enough on tests so no one yells at them, and then get the fuck out of there.

"What makes you say this, Stan?"

I'm a product of American public schools (many of them, in fact), and that's just about all I saw, including myself. Most American kids just want to fill in some answers on a sheet so they can go home and piss off their parents somehow.


That's sort of what I was thinking too. Like people here using the (fucking useless) Golden State exams to play connect-the-dots.

Michael_DeSade

Michael_DeSade

Seattle, WA
OLD SKOOL

FEB 02, 2005 12:55 AM

I went to public schools, and I was required to memorize not only the Preamble to the Constitution, but the Bill of Rights as well.....in the eighth grade. Bu then again, I had some kick ass teachers.
ARRR!!!

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