cheap trickery. it's astonishing how those with money and education can fool those without so easily.

Dude, just stop, please. Stop characterizing republicans as stupid and poor - you're wrong, and it's one of the reasons we're in this fucked up situation. We need to understand this country better than that.

chalk 1 win up for guns, god, and gays. i have to say i had higher hopes for america but apparently we are a bunch of bigoted fundamentalist christians.

*sigh*

Who the hell am I, or the government, to tell two consenting adults what they can and can not do? And outlawing gay marrage wont make 'them' go away, either. *rolls eyes*

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Says who?

Everything I read says they didn't.

huh?

you've misunderstood what i mean.

republicans are a mix. they are both wealthy and poor, educated and ignorant. what i'm saying is that i know why the wealthy vote for bush, and i know why the poor do as well, but they both have different reasons. the wealthy in the party manipulate the poor through underfunding of public education and use of wedge issues to acheive their own ends: more money, more power.

CLEARLY the poorer and less educated members of the GOP are being fooled, because they're voting for a party that doesn't give a rat's ass about their welfare and uses religion (etc) as a cynical tool against them. meanwhile, they're voting against a party that has their well-being much more in mind, but that doesn't pander to their religion.

I am offended because people my age didn't vote.

this is such a letdown. i volunteered for Kerry-Edwards, and we registered so many people in the state of New Mexico, most of whom were totally, viciously against GWB and his administration; but for whatever reason, despite all the polling leading up to the election, and the polling done during the election which put Kerry in favour, we still lost.

Can't wait for what we might get now.

Federal laws prohibiting abortion and gay marriage? A call for reservists because the military doesn't know how to allocate troops? Who knows. I know I'm looking forward to it.

the entire focus on gay marriage as an issue is nothing but a diversion tactic used by these neo-conservatives running this mess of a country. when all your policies are crap, pander towards emotional issues (god, gays, guns).

i saw more youthful here than i ever have before. but numbers were up all around

Fair enough. But that's still a pitiful percentage of elgible voters under 30. Something like 17%, if I have it right. This election has done nothing to change the image of the apathetic youth bloc.

Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but supression of their rights will surely spark the gay communities to rise up united against the ammendments. I certainly hope so.

Really? The exit polls had Kerry up 15 points in PA, and winning several of the closer states like New Mexico and Iowa that he eventually lost.

So I wouldn't classify them as infallible.

Well, look at it this way: in a couple years those folks will probably be out of jobs and too poor to vote next time around, not be able re-educate themselves through affordable college, and unable to cure their neurological diseases brought on by the polution in their local rivers... but at least all those godless homos can't live together in holy matre'mony.