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  • FRIDAY OCTOBER 29 2004 7:00 PM

Florida: I Can't Get No, Clean E-lec-tion.

What is it about Bush, Florida, and Election scandals?

Ffrom the BBC:

A secret document obtained from inside Bush campaign headquarters in Florida suggests a plan - possibly in violation of US law - to disrupt voting in the state's African-American voting districts...


Reaction from Jacksonville's election supervisor has been sharply critical, even as local Republican party officers fail to deny the plan. But that's not all...

In Jacksonville, to determine if Republicans were using the lists or other means of intimidating voters, we filmed a private detective filming every "early voter" - the majority of whom are black - from behind a vehicle with blacked-out windows.

 

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m0unds

m0unds

Rio Rancho, NM
April 2003

OCT 29, 2004 07:15 PM

wonderful.....

EatMyBabies

EatMyBabies

Medway, MA
February 2003

OCT 29, 2004 07:21 PM

if your gonna pull this again, wouldn't you go for a diffenent state.. maybe one thats not under a microscope because of stuff you pulled last time??

runrunrun

runrunrun

Sacramento, CA
June 2004

OCT 29, 2004 07:28 PM

"Ion Sancho, a Democrat, noted that Florida law allows political party operatives inside polling stations to stop voters from obtaining a ballot."

Ion Sancho is the best name I have ever heard.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

OCT 29, 2004 08:24 PM

EatMyBabies said:
if your gonna pull this again, wouldn't you go for a diffenent state.. maybe one thats not under a microscope because of stuff you pulled last time??



What, like Ohio?

Actually, regardless of the shenanigans that took place last time in Florida, the fact remains that it's a very contentious state that could once again play a decisive role in the outcome of the election, and naturally they're going to focus their efforts on areas where even a small effect in the electorate could be very effective in the election, regardless of the danger of getting caught.

nerdboy2345

nerdboy2345

Oak Lawn, IL
December 2002

OCT 29, 2004 08:30 PM

ahhhh. shit like this pisses me off. especially when im drunk. i fear for tuesday. i fear the outcome. i fear another four years. bush is about scaring america, and it seems to be working on me

machfive

machfive

Minneapolis, MN
August 2003

OCT 29, 2004 08:51 PM

We're all fucked. I vote for guerilla war.

Ravnos

ravnos

Edmonton, AB
OLD SKOOL

OCT 29, 2004 09:25 PM

machfive said:
We're all fucked. I vote for guerilla war.





?????

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

OCT 29, 2004 11:05 PM

Ravnos said:

machfive said:
We're all fucked. I vote for guerilla war.





?????



Dammit, now Nintendo's probably going to threaten to sue SG or something.

Wait, is this your plot to win a new GameCube? wink

Vampirate

Vampirate

Durham, NC
October 2004

OCT 29, 2004 11:21 PM

In Jacksonville, to determine if Republicans were using the lists or other means of intimidating voters, we filmed a private detective filming every "early voter" - the majority of whom are black - from behind a vehicle with blacked-out windows.


Somehow this just makes me picture a dude who has some voyeuristic voting fetish sitting in his car wearing nothing but a trench coat (you know, like a private eye...) and lustfully filming people file into and out of the polling place.

Edited to mention that I'm not trying in any way to mock a very serious problem. It's just that all the important bases had already been covered.

[Edited on Oct 30, 2004 2:22AM]

ZPO

ZPO

Roy, WA
July 2004

OCT 30, 2004 07:23 AM

This story is talking about 2 very different items so lets break them down:

1 - The list of names/addresses

This is very disturbing. It was sent to the Florida executive director and the national director of research. It could be a list of newly registered voters that came through a suspect source. It could be a challenge list. We don't know enough at this point to really know what it is.

2 - Filming voters during early voting.

If you're filming every person who enters/exits the polling place during early voting how is that going to be used to intimidate voters? By the time the film is passed up the chain those people have already voted. If EVERY voter is being filmed as the enter/exit the polling place then how can you claim a racial bias? This one is strange, but not a smoking gun of some type of overarching plan for voter intimidation. It could just as easily the product of someone trying to get voter footage for a film.

AkiraLi

AkiraLi

Norristown, PA
March 2003

OCT 30, 2004 08:15 AM

ZPO said:
It could just as easily the product of someone trying to get voter footage for a film.


From inside a vehicle?
With blacked-out windows?
And not getting a consent form signed?

Ella_1

Ella_1

HOPEFUL

Australia

OCT 30, 2004 08:30 AM

What exaclty is the deal with voter registration anyway? Im an auzzie so i dont know how it works for you guys but out here, we register our name on the electoral role, go to a polling booth and get our name ticked off a huge list and are given ballot papers which we fill out and stick in a little box. And for an early vote we get a ballot paper from a post office, fill it out and mail it off.

From everything that I have read, Im under the impression that it doesnt work that way in the U.S otherwise all this electoral fraud couldnt happen so readily. Am i correct in this assumption?

Mike11

Mike11

Titusville, FL
OLD SKOOL

OCT 30, 2004 08:36 AM

machfive said:
We're all fucked. I vote for guerilla war.


Just remember we will need our guns for this. Don't vote away our guns!

ItwasDuke

ItwasDuke

New York, NY
March 2004

OCT 30, 2004 08:37 AM

Mike said:

machfive said:
We're all fucked. I vote for guerilla war.


Just remember we will need our guns for this. Don't vote away our guns!



surreal

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

OCT 30, 2004 09:21 AM

BONDAGEQUEEN said:
What exaclty is the deal with voter registration anyway? Im an auzzie so i dont know how it works for you guys but out here, we register our name on the electoral role, go to a polling booth and get our name ticked off a huge list and are given ballot papers which we fill out and stick in a little box. And for an early vote we get a ballot paper from a post office, fill it out and mail it off.

From everything that I have read, Im under the impression that it doesnt work that way in the U.S otherwise all this electoral fraud couldnt happen so readily. Am i correct in this assumption?



It's different from state to state, and we have 50 states with different voting machines, different rules, and different voter registration requirements, methods and deadlines, so you can imagine what a clusterfuck this is.
There are also different rules for absentee ballots, early voting, and challenging voter registrations.

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