Wait; isn't he the guy with like 5 humves (or whatever the hell they're called.)

Aren't they the ones that do like 8 miles to the gallon?

This is just stupid. Atlanta is pretty smoggy too, and I see so few older hobby cars in the city, that they're almost unnoticable. I think I can safely assume California has roughly the same ratio of new cars to classics.

Ya know what I do see though? Those big, clunky, absolutely worthless automobiles that get piss poor gas mileage, complete with idiot driver yapping on the cell phone. The ones that almost run you off the road because the dipshit in the drivers seat is too busy hauling all the cargo that is...themselves...while watching DVD's and getting 8 mpg. SUV's are absofuckinglutely worthless.


[Edited on Sep 27, 2004 11:51AM]

Edit: see following posts for what law actually says.

[Edited on Sep 27, 2004 by Stiles]

I'm guessing they don't.

He doesn't drive them. He carries them on his back.

Has it been signed & put into effect yet?

I know that a few years back, in New Jersey, there was a huge outcry about a similar law. Flyers were sent out...protest cruises were organized...and it turned out to be basically a hoax.

I'm aware that California has extremely tough emissions laws...but it seems patently absurd that they would be able to legally require classis cars to pass modern emissions standards. Here in NJ you just have to pass the standards for the year of your vehicle.

(A bit off-topic)

What kind of car do you have?

[Edited on Sep 27, 2004 by demetrius_z]

damnit, now even more yuppie californians are gonna move to colorado and fuck up the smog we get here...

why not ban guns in texas while you're at it?

It's not a law yet, it's still a bill, which i'm guessing means the legislature needs to approve it? I'm not sure, I don't know that much about the specifics of the Calfornia state legislative process.

Here is the full text of the amended version of AB 2863, as far as I can tell the most recent version that was submitted to the Governor for approval. Looks like the entire purpose of the bill is to remove the grandfathering of pre-1976 vehicles from state emissions testing.

I think its a good idea, fuck all old obsolete cars, they look like shit, sound like crap and produce signifigante amounts of pollution compared to their modern counterpart. I no more want those on the road then I want factory workers using industrial equipment from the same era.

However for people who only have classic(old) cars I think the state should help them get a modern car to replace their classic(old) cars.

Here's the bill:
http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/asm/ab_2651-2700/ab_2683_cfa_20040809_122618_sen_floor.html

It repeals the rolling 30 year exemption that was in place and instead enforces a 1976 -up mandatory emissions test.

Woooo, feel the ignorance. Hardly anyone drives a classic every day, so they're hardly a signifigant contributor to pollution. They are rolling history and should be appreciated for what they are.

BTW - 1950's and 60's machine tools are built to last, unlike much of the garbage put out today.