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  • TUESDAY AUGUST 3 2004 1:23 AM

New York Terror Alert Based on 3 or 4 Year Old Information

Sunday's alert of a possible terrorist attack against financial buildings in New York was based on 3 or 4 year old information, dating back before the 9/11 attacks. Intelligence and law enforcement officials had not found new evidence that an attack or continued surveillance of the buildings was in progress.

"There is nothing right now that we're hearing that is new," said one senior law enforcement official who was briefed on the alert. "Why did we go to this level? . . . I still don't know that."

 

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diggity

diggity

Carrboro, NC
March 2003

AUG 03, 2004 01:34 AM

Sunday...hmmm, isn't that the day before the day when all the polls were taken to see how well Kerry did last week?

Jayce

Jayce

Minneapolis, MN
November 2002

AUG 03, 2004 01:40 AM

Sunday...hmmm, isn't that eleven days before my birthday?

crazydasaint

crazydasaint

Washington, DC
OLD SKOOL

AUG 03, 2004 01:43 AM

Yet another suspiciously timed terror alert...

first time is happenstance
second time is coincidence
third time is a pattern
and the seventeenth time is just insulting our intelligence

I look forward to the day we can run Tom Ridge outta this town on a goddamn rail!

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

AUG 03, 2004 01:53 AM

No kidding. And I guess the announcement last Thursday (the day of Kerry's speech) of the arrest of an HVT Al Qaeda leader in Pakistan -- when the capture had actually taken place five days earlier -- was just a coincidence too. FEAR! DEATH! TERROR! BUSH!


[Edited on Aug 03, 2004 by Keith]

swashbucklAARRR

swashbucklAARRR

I'm lost
January 2004

AUG 03, 2004 01:57 AM

who wants to bet osama gets captured within a month of the election?

dire_romantic

dire_romantic

Edmonton, AB
May 2004

AUG 03, 2004 02:01 AM

skweebiljambo said:
who wants to bet osama gets captured within a month of the election?


that's a very, very scary thought....

that said, there's no amount of money small enough that I'd wager against it though.

dirtyground

dirtyground

Chicago, IL
August 2003

AUG 03, 2004 02:01 AM

they spiked up the terror alert so people would feel safe about having Bush as president... because he's STOPPING the people bombing the financial places.

its bullshit. RIGHT after the democratic convention they jack it up based on old information.

Lain

Lain

Astoria, NY
April 2004

AUG 03, 2004 04:56 AM

Im just waiting for:

"Today the terror alert has been raised to "Bugs Bunny" due to the fact that we suspect terrorists fleeing to New York after taking a wrong turn and heading to Albercurque. Of course Bugs Bunny is"

or

"Today the terror alert has been raised to Cheesburger from yesterdays Thilk Milkshake alert. This is the 390,361,901 time and these alerts still meen jack shit."

Southuhn

Southuhn

San Diego, CA
February 2004

AUG 03, 2004 06:50 AM

skweebiljambo said:
who wants to bet osama gets captured within a month of the election?


Nah, see, while Bush is more than willing to resort to such tactics, that would mean he'd have to catch the much smarter bin Laden first.

It took us quite a while just to find Saddam holed up about a mile from his house. If bin Laden actually decides not to stay in his hometown, there's a good chance we'll never find him.

But you know, it's kind of sad that I can blindly call bullshit anytime somebody says there's a terror alert and I'm right every time.

[Edited on Aug 03, 2004 6:56AM]

Helter

Helter

Chester, PA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 03, 2004 07:02 AM

Southuhn said:
But you know, it's kind of sad that I can blindly call bullshit anytime somebody says there's a terror alert and I'm right every time.



If I were part of a well organized terror group, and wanted to commit an act of terrorism against a US target, one of the first things I'd do would be to start disseminating info about fake attacks that were never planned, just to make everybody like you.
Then it would be easy.

Southuhn

Southuhn

San Diego, CA
February 2004

AUG 03, 2004 07:14 AM

Helter said:
If I were part of a well organized terror group, and wanted to commit an act of terrorism against a US target, one of the first things I'd do would be to start disseminating info about fake attacks that were never planned, just to make everybody like you.
Then it would be easy.


I'm not sure how that would make it easy. It's not like if I believed the terror alerts were credible, I'd go throw on my blue tights and start patrolling the skies on the lookout for al Qaeda, ready at any second to melt the evil terrorists with my heat vision.

In theory, people should always be on the lookout for strange behavior. Just because Tom Ridge's rooster crowed three times instead of twice doesn't mean that suddenly we need to be careful. We always need to be alert — that's just life. I said so before 9/11 and I say so today.

Helter

Helter

Chester, PA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 03, 2004 07:17 AM

Southuhn said:
I'm not sure how that would make it easy. It's not like if I believed the terror alerts were credible, I'd go throw on my blue tights and start patrolling the skies on the lookout for al Qaeda, ready at any second to melt the evil terrorists with my heat vision.

In theory, people should always be on the lookout for strange behavior. Just because Tom Ridge's rooster crowed three times instead of twice doesn't mean that suddenly we need to be careful. We always need to be alert — that's just life. I said so before 9/11 and I say so today.



Well no, I was saying that this very well may all be by design, not that YOU need to keep your eyes open to stop terrorists. They may be leaking incorrect information so that people start to ignore the "terror" warnings.

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 03, 2004 07:49 AM

Maybe they're being over-protective...but if I were in their position I don't know if I wouldn't do the same thing.

Think about it. How much Monday Morning quarterbacking is going on now? "The Govt. KNEW about 9/11 before it happened" "The could have stopped it" "they should have done more" "They could have saved more lives"

Is it even remotely possible that they're trying to avoid being burned again? Thought the quote was butchered by our President, "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me", it's a good piece of advice.

So the initial intel. is 3-4 years old...I'm not an expert in terrorism or even architecture...but how do you know that this isn't standard procedure. Hwo do you knwo that organizations like this DON'T start gathering intel years before they actually strike?

I'm not saying that the government is or isn't right in this situation. What I'm saying is....trust them or not, the Govt. does know more about what's actually going on more than you or me.

George W., at this point, is damned if he does & damned is he doesn't by everyone except his staunchest supporters. I don't think an error on the side of caution is all that bad.

nightx

nightx

Fenton, MO
August 2003

AUG 03, 2004 09:41 AM

Helter said:
Well no, I was saying that this very well may all be by design, not that YOU need to keep your eyes open to stop terrorists. They may be leaking incorrect information so that people start to ignore the "terror" warnings.



But that's not the point of terrorism. They want people afraid to travel/fly/shop, etc.

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

AUG 03, 2004 10:03 AM

Southuhn said:

skweebiljambo said:
who wants to bet osama gets captured within a month of the election?


Nah, see, while Bush is more than willing to resort to such tactics, that would mean he'd have to catch the much smarter bin Laden first.

It took us quite a while just to find Saddam holed up about a mile from his house.



who is to say we dont already know exactly where osama bin laden is? considering our resouces, its not THAT hard to find someone like him.

and i dont believe for a second that saddam hussein was actually hiding out in a dirty hole.

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