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Asshole Fuckface Roundup #107

We’re down to the second to last Asshole Fuckface Roundup of all time. I’ve been called up to the big leagues. Asshole Fuckfaces will no longer be my business. This makes today the 7th worst day in world history. Tomorrow will be the 6th and you can probably see a pattern developing. So, hold on to your assholes, because this is going to be ugly.

First up, some Ohio Asshole Fuckfacing.

Meet Ohio State Representative John Adams. He believes women’s bodies belong to men, like property. Women should obviously have no say in what they want in their pathetic lives.

An Ohio lawmaker has introduced a bill that would prevent a woman from having an abortion unless she gets written consent from the biological father.



Can’t see any problem with that. It’s just a well thought out policy.

"What does the father have to say in the abortion of his child? He has nothing to say (under current law)," Adams told 10TV News.



That’s because it’s not growing in his torso and coming out of his vagina.

In the case where the father isn't known, House Bill 252 would compel the woman to provide a list of names of people who may be the father in an effort to determine paternity. The bill also would make it a crime for women to lie about who the father is, and make it illegal for doctors to perform abortions without the father's consent.



A worthy use of government. Also, if the father is located, the woman will be branded with his name on her forehead. Oh, and I loved the book, The Handmaid's Tale. Thanks for the reminder.

The bill would force a woman to have a child if the father does not agree to an abortion.



Or to move out of Ohio. Dear John Adams, you are sub-human.

Next up, more racist Republican Asshole Fuckfacery.

As I wrote the day Obama was elected, racist Republican nonsense will continue to spew forth every day Obama is in office. Republicans, or, as they are often called, “rich, white people,” believe their racist jokes are something everyone does. They believe it’s just our common language and they will continue sending offensive jokes and twitters until he leaves office. It’s who they are. They don't know any better.

First, we’ll start with Atwater, California City Council member Gary Frago. Gary’s big on sending out hilarious emails about President Obama and his wife.

“Breaking News Playboy just offered Sarah Palin $1 million to pose nude in the January issue. Michelle Obama got the same offer from National Geographic



She’s black, by the way. I mean, if you missed the hilarity, National Geographic is known for publishing photos of bare-chested African women, or, at least they did in the ‘50s.

Some emails compared Obama to O.J. Simpson while others suggested that “nigger rigs” should now be called “presidential solutions.”



Obviously, Gary has a big future in politics, but he’s not the worst racist emailer of the week. No, that honor goes to Dr. David McKalip. Dr. David is the founder of the right-wing, anti-health reform group Doctors For Patient Freedom. He’s one of the doctors the GOP is taking out for talks to explain to Americans why health care reform is bad.

"Congress wants to create larger, government-funded programs for health care and more bureaucracy that ration care and impose cookbook medicine."



Good stuff. He also sent out this image of Obama as a witch doctor this week.



McKalip said he believes that by depicting the president as an African witch doctor, the artist who created the image "was expressing concerns that the health-care proposals [made by President Obama] would make the quality of medical care worse in our country." McKalip said he didn't know who created it.



Hell yeah. It’s impossible to make that point without putting a bone in the president’s nose. Impossible.

Next up, more Republican Asshole Fuckfacery.

The Republicans have whipped up their talking points to stop health care reform. Here's the highlight:

Democrats are proposing a government controlled health insurance system, which will control care, treatments, medicines and even what doctors a patient may see.



So, health insurance that will control care, treatments, medicines and even what doctors a patient may see? Um, that’s exactly what we have now. So, good point? Oh, and there's more.

President Obama's health care experiment is too much, too fast, too soon. Our country cannot afford to fix health care through a rushed experiment.



It’s a good thing we haven’t had, like, 60 years to think about it. In actuality, it needs to be a rush job. Why? Because 5 million Americans have lost their insurance since September. Because 16% of Americans over the age of 18 have no health insurance. That’s actually something you should deal with fast, not slow. Oh, and 70% of Americans want a public plan.

The only reason Republicans want to “slow it down” is because they want more time to come up with lies to spread across the airwaves to defeat health care reform. And they have no plan. No plan.

Finally, some pot Asshole Fuckfacery.

With all that is going on in our country, it amazing we continue our war on drugs, specifically marijuana. Currently, law enforcement officials are conducting “Operation SOS — or, “Save Our Sierra.” They are saving it from pot.

“More than 314,000 plants were uprooted in 70 gardens — numbers expected to rise as the enforcement action continues,” the paper reported. “Agents also seized $41,000 in cash, 26 firearms and three vehicles.”



Sweet. Obama’s drug policy is the same old, stupid, moronic drug policy we have been living under for years, with the same old idiots in charge. Take Obama’s new idiot drug czar, Gil Kerlikowske, who had some awesome things to say about pot.

"Legalization is not in the president's vocabulary, and it's not in mine," he said.

"Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit," Kerlikowske said.



No, can’t think of a thing.

Keep on keepin’ on. It’s a tremendous success and a great use of our money. By the way, government, if pot was legal pot farmers wouldn't be screwing up the environment up in the mountains. Just a tip.

FearTheReaper is a writer, actor and stand up comedian. Check back each Tuesday and Friday for more from FearTheReaper You may also enjoy his blog, Stop All Monsters.

 

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Weatherpunk

Weatherpunk

Japan
June 2008

JUL 25, 2009 12:58 PM

FeloniousPunk said:

ENFORCER99 said:
wow this is funny as hell you consider me laughing at a picture "Disparaging". It was nice of you to insult our security forces, maybe article 92 should apply to you. If only we could expect more from our NCO's Ssgt Weatherpunk. I also think Dave Chappelle was funny as hell also, he did shit just like this picture, maybe worse. "black white supremacist:, first black shit-in", "the niggar family". he must be a racist 2.
but anyways im a believer that the people who keep getting offended by certain remarks are the ones keeping racism around, I can laugh about any white joke, doesnt bother me one bit... I dont know if the person who made that picture is a true racist, i dont care anyway. But theres just no way you can say i am just because i laughed at it



I can, I did, and I will again. So have others. If that picture didn't immediately offend you on some level, then you are a racist. No question about it. Like I said before, not every racist wears a white robe and burns crosses on people's front lawns.

What Dave Chappelle did was completely different than that picture. I wonder if I should even bother explaining it to you...



Pearls before swine, Felonious. I wouldn't bother trying to educate this one, as he's made it apparent in his handful of posts where he stands on the position.

Whether I like the guy or not, I apologize FOR HIM to all the other Americans on SG. By & large, our Air Force is better than this. There are always a few with "dings" that make it out of the factory, though. frown To our foreign friends: ENFORCER99 may reinforce a few stereotypes about us Yanks, but his kind are more & more being pushed to the margins of America. Don't let it reflect poorly on the rest of us whatever ignorant things he may say. puke

ENFORCER99

ENFORCER99

Vacaville, CA
July 2009

JUL 25, 2009 01:00 PM

FeloniousPunk said:

ENFORCER99 said:
wow this is funny as hell you consider me laughing at a picture "Disparaging". It was nice of you to insult our security forces, maybe article 92 should apply to you. If only we could expect more from our NCO's Ssgt Weatherpunk. I also think Dave Chappelle was funny as hell also, he did shit just like this picture, maybe worse. "black white supremacist:, first black shit-in", "the niggar family". he must be a racist 2.
but anyways im a believer that the people who keep getting offended by certain remarks are the ones keeping racism around, I can laugh about any white joke, doesnt bother me one bit... I dont know if the person who made that picture is a true racist, i dont care anyway. But theres just no way you can say i am just because i laughed at it



I can, I did, and I will again. So have others. If that picture didn't immediately offend you on some level, then you are a racist. No question about it. Like I said before, not every racist wears a white robe and burns crosses on people's front lawns.

What Dave Chappelle did was completely different than that picture. I wonder if I should even bother explaining it to you...



i disagree,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist
"hatred or intolerance of another race or other races"
I dont have anh of those therefore i am not a racist. If i post a picture that i think is funny with a white person will you still call me a racist? cause your beliefs here are just stupid

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

JUL 25, 2009 01:21 PM

ENFORCER99 said:

Weatherpunk said:

ENFORCER99 said:
Sorry to say im not rich and i dont know any "rich white men" Republicans. I guess im just one of the poor ones who doesnt want taxes raised for any man. Im also not a racist but i will have to tell you that Obama picture is funny as fuck, ill have to post that one at work



Don't be surprised when someone tags you with an Art 92 violation, either. It's against UCMJ for us to make/distribute disparaging remarks against certain government officials, much less superior officers. But then again, I wouldn't expect anything less from today's generation of Security Forces....

SSgt Weatherpunk


wow this is funny as hell you consider me laughing at a picture "Disparaging". It was nice of you to insult our security forces, maybe article 92 should apply to you. If only we could expect more from our NCO's Ssgt Weatherpunk. I also think Dave Chappelle was funny as hell also, he did shit just like this picture, maybe worse. "black white supremacist:, first black shit-in", "the niggar family". he must be a racist 2.
but anyways im a believer that the people who keep getting offended by certain remarks are the ones keeping racism around, I can laugh about any white joke, doesnt bother me one bit... I dont know if the person who made that picture is a true racist, i dont care anyway. But theres just no way you can say i am just because i laughed at it

So am I to get this right, are you saying ignore it and it will go away, 'cause that's exactly what it sounds like to me.

While I'll side with humor being completely subjective and geared towards a certain audience, there is and always have been limits to it's sensibility depending on the forum upon which it is delivered. Certainly, it is the delivery here which is in question. Comedians typically deliver their schtick to a captive audience who've often paid to be amused, humiliated and/or offended (by attending a show or subscribing to a program). Thier level of political correctness is expected to be drastically different then that of a public broadcast, a syndicated radio or television program or even a simple email sent by a public official. If you don't like someone's humor then you don't have to go to the comedy show, look on their website or tune in to Comedy Central. However, if a public servant (who is held to an entirely different standard then a comedian) makes derogatory remarks (or in this case, circulates offensive imagery), then it's bound to make some waves (and land them on their asses). It's a pretty simple concept you don't seem to appreciate. Sure there is free speech, you can say any damn thing you want. However, that doesn't mean you can make a complete ass of yourself and expect people not to notice.

Furthermore, hiding behind the troops is such a tired old tactic. Granted not all troops are the same (I have family who've served and still serve in the military, however I don't subscribe to the notion that all are as good or perhaps bad as they). I believe that while overgeneralized, Weatherpunk's comments may hinge on the evidence that there has been disturbing trend among recruitment of newer troops in the military. For further explanation, try reading this SG blog, chew on it for a bit and feel free to comment:
Don't Ask, Don't Heil.

As far as what you find humorous, if you find something funny that another finds disparaging, then leave it at that. You obviously come from an audience that appreciates what others find offensive, now why do think that is? (And what exactly do you find funny about the image in the first place, because I don't get it.)

ENFORCER99

ENFORCER99

Vacaville, CA
July 2009

JUL 25, 2009 01:43 PM

FellOnEarth said:

ENFORCER99 said:

Weatherpunk said:

ENFORCER99 said:
Sorry to say im not rich and i dont know any "rich white men" Republicans. I guess im just one of the poor ones who doesnt want taxes raised for any man. Im also not a racist but i will have to tell you that Obama picture is funny as fuck, ill have to post that one at work



Don't be surprised when someone tags you with an Art 92 violation, either. It's against UCMJ for us to make/distribute disparaging remarks against certain government officials, much less superior officers. But then again, I wouldn't expect anything less from today's generation of Security Forces....

SSgt Weatherpunk


wow this is funny as hell you consider me laughing at a picture "Disparaging". It was nice of you to insult our security forces, maybe article 92 should apply to you. If only we could expect more from our NCO's Ssgt Weatherpunk. I also think Dave Chappelle was funny as hell also, he did shit just like this picture, maybe worse. "black white supremacist:, first black shit-in", "the niggar family". he must be a racist 2.
but anyways im a believer that the people who keep getting offended by certain remarks are the ones keeping racism around, I can laugh about any white joke, doesnt bother me one bit... I dont know if the person who made that picture is a true racist, i dont care anyway. But theres just no way you can say i am just because i laughed at it

So am I to get this right, are you saying ignore it and it will go away, 'cause that's exactly what it sounds like to me.

While I'll side with humor being completely subjective and geared towards a certain audience, there is and always have been limits to it's sensibility depending on the forum upon which it is delivered. Certainly, it is the delivery here which is in question. Comedians typically deliver their schtick to a captive audience who've often paid to be amused, humiliated and/or offended (by attending a show or subscribing to a program). Thier level of political correctness is expected to be drastically different then that of a public broadcast, a syndicated radio or television program or even a simple email sent by a public official. If you don't like someone's humor then you don't have to go to the comedy show, look on their website or tune in to Comedy Central. However, if a public servant (who is held to an entirely different standard then a comedian) makes derogatory remarks (or in this case, circulates offensive imagery), then it's bound to make some waves (and land them on their asses). It's a pretty simple concept you don't seem to appreciate. Sure there is free speech, you can say any damn thing you want. However, that doesn't mean you can make a complete ass of yourself and expect people not to notice.

Furthermore, hiding behind the troops is such a tired old tactic. Granted not all troops are the same (I have family who've served and still serve in the military, however I don't subscribe to the notion that all are as good or perhaps bad as they). I believe that while overgeneralized, Weatherpunk's comments may hinge on the evidence that there has been disturbing trend among recruitment of newer troops in the military. For further explanation, try reading this SG blog, chew on it for a bit and feel free to comment:
Don't Ask, Don't Heil.

As far as what you find humorous, if you find something funny that another finds disparaging, then leave it at that. You obviously come from an audience that appreciates what others find offensive, now why do think that is? (And what exactly do you find funny about the image in the first place, because I don't get it.)



im not saying ignore it im sayin im confortable with it. I also didnt bring any military comments into this, weatherpunk did so post towards him. And another thing i never said the guy who posted or made the picture wasnt racist, i never sided with him in anyway. all i did was say i laughed at it. There are numerous people in here that are just to butt hurt about everything in my opinion, this being one of them.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

JUL 25, 2009 02:14 PM

ENFORCER99 said:

FellOnEarth said:

ENFORCER99 said:

Weatherpunk said:

ENFORCER99 said:
Sorry to say im not rich and i dont know any "rich white men" Republicans. I guess im just one of the poor ones who doesnt want taxes raised for any man. Im also not a racist but i will have to tell you that Obama picture is funny as fuck, ill have to post that one at work



Don't be surprised when someone tags you with an Art 92 violation, either. It's against UCMJ for us to make/distribute disparaging remarks against certain government officials, much less superior officers. But then again, I wouldn't expect anything less from today's generation of Security Forces....

SSgt Weatherpunk


wow this is funny as hell you consider me laughing at a picture "Disparaging". It was nice of you to insult our security forces, maybe article 92 should apply to you. If only we could expect more from our NCO's Ssgt Weatherpunk. I also think Dave Chappelle was funny as hell also, he did shit just like this picture, maybe worse. "black white supremacist:, first black shit-in", "the niggar family". he must be a racist 2.
but anyways im a believer that the people who keep getting offended by certain remarks are the ones keeping racism around, I can laugh about any white joke, doesnt bother me one bit... I dont know if the person who made that picture is a true racist, i dont care anyway. But theres just no way you can say i am just because i laughed at it

So am I to get this right, are you saying ignore it and it will go away, 'cause that's exactly what it sounds like to me.

While I'll side with humor being completely subjective and geared towards a certain audience, there is and always have been limits to it's sensibility depending on the forum upon which it is delivered. Certainly, it is the delivery here which is in question. Comedians typically deliver their schtick to a captive audience who've often paid to be amused, humiliated and/or offended (by attending a show or subscribing to a program). Thier level of political correctness is expected to be drastically different then that of a public broadcast, a syndicated radio or television program or even a simple email sent by a public official. If you don't like someone's humor then you don't have to go to the comedy show, look on their website or tune in to Comedy Central. However, if a public servant (who is held to an entirely different standard then a comedian) makes derogatory remarks (or in this case, circulates offensive imagery), then it's bound to make some waves (and land them on their asses). It's a pretty simple concept you don't seem to appreciate. Sure there is free speech, you can say any damn thing you want. However, that doesn't mean you can make a complete ass of yourself and expect people not to notice.

Furthermore, hiding behind the troops is such a tired old tactic. Granted not all troops are the same (I have family who've served and still serve in the military, however I don't subscribe to the notion that all are as good or perhaps bad as they). I believe that while overgeneralized, Weatherpunk's comments may hinge on the evidence that there has been disturbing trend among recruitment of newer troops in the military. For further explanation, try reading this SG blog, chew on it for a bit and feel free to comment:
Don't Ask, Don't Heil.

As far as what you find humorous, if you find something funny that another finds disparaging, then leave it at that. You obviously come from an audience that appreciates what others find offensive, now why do think that is? (And what exactly do you find funny about the image in the first place, because I don't get it.)



im not saying ignore it im sayin im confortable with it. I also didnt bring any military comments into this, weatherpunk did so post towards him. And another thing i never said the guy who posted or made the picture wasnt racist, i never sided with him in anyway. all i did was say i laughed at it. There are numerous people in here that are just to butt hurt about everything in my opinion, this being one of them.


So you're saying that despite being butt hurt, they should just take it like a low-level drug offender in the state pen? Great... This is what I call being insensate to sensitivity (not just being insensitive). Here's what I have a problem with, one person says something offensive to another, then, rather then exploring and understanding why the other person is offended, the offense is further compounded because the offended party is simply dismissed as being too sensitive (typical narcissistic response). And yet you think Obama's picture is "funny as fuck", care to elaborate? Oh well I don't know fuck all about anything, do I? Different strokes for different folks, I'll leave it at that.

Go ahead and post the image at work Mr USAF flight mechanic, I don't really care about your job either. By the way, those taxes you complain about, they pay your bills. surreal

ENFORCER99

ENFORCER99

Vacaville, CA
July 2009

JUL 25, 2009 02:42 PM

FellOnEarth said:

ENFORCER99 said:

FellOnEarth said:

ENFORCER99 said:

Weatherpunk said:

ENFORCER99 said:
Sorry to say im not rich and i dont know any "rich white men" Republicans. I guess im just one of the poor ones who doesnt want taxes raised for any man. Im also not a racist but i will have to tell you that Obama picture is funny as fuck, ill have to post that one at work



Don't be surprised when someone tags you with an Art 92 violation, either. It's against UCMJ for us to make/distribute disparaging remarks against certain government officials, much less superior officers. But then again, I wouldn't expect anything less from today's generation of Security Forces....

SSgt Weatherpunk


wow this is funny as hell you consider me laughing at a picture "Disparaging". It was nice of you to insult our security forces, maybe article 92 should apply to you. If only we could expect more from our NCO's Ssgt Weatherpunk. I also think Dave Chappelle was funny as hell also, he did shit just like this picture, maybe worse. "black white supremacist:, first black shit-in", "the niggar family". he must be a racist 2.
but anyways im a believer that the people who keep getting offended by certain remarks are the ones keeping racism around, I can laugh about any white joke, doesnt bother me one bit... I dont know if the person who made that picture is a true racist, i dont care anyway. But theres just no way you can say i am just because i laughed at it

So am I to get this right, are you saying ignore it and it will go away, 'cause that's exactly what it sounds like to me.

While I'll side with humor being completely subjective and geared towards a certain audience, there is and always have been limits to it's sensibility depending on the forum upon which it is delivered. Certainly, it is the delivery here which is in question. Comedians typically deliver their schtick to a captive audience who've often paid to be amused, humiliated and/or offended (by attending a show or subscribing to a program). Thier level of political correctness is expected to be drastically different then that of a public broadcast, a syndicated radio or television program or even a simple email sent by a public official. If you don't like someone's humor then you don't have to go to the comedy show, look on their website or tune in to Comedy Central. However, if a public servant (who is held to an entirely different standard then a comedian) makes derogatory remarks (or in this case, circulates offensive imagery), then it's bound to make some waves (and land them on their asses). It's a pretty simple concept you don't seem to appreciate. Sure there is free speech, you can say any damn thing you want. However, that doesn't mean you can make a complete ass of yourself and expect people not to notice.

Furthermore, hiding behind the troops is such a tired old tactic. Granted not all troops are the same (I have family who've served and still serve in the military, however I don't subscribe to the notion that all are as good or perhaps bad as they). I believe that while overgeneralized, Weatherpunk's comments may hinge on the evidence that there has been disturbing trend among recruitment of newer troops in the military. For further explanation, try reading this SG blog, chew on it for a bit and feel free to comment:
Don't Ask, Don't Heil.

As far as what you find humorous, if you find something funny that another finds disparaging, then leave it at that. You obviously come from an audience that appreciates what others find offensive, now why do think that is? (And what exactly do you find funny about the image in the first place, because I don't get it.)



im not saying ignore it im sayin im confortable with it. I also didnt bring any military comments into this, weatherpunk did so post towards him. And another thing i never said the guy who posted or made the picture wasnt racist, i never sided with him in anyway. all i did was say i laughed at it. There are numerous people in here that are just to butt hurt about everything in my opinion, this being one of them.


So you're saying that despite being butt hurt, they should just take it like a low-level drug offender in the state pen? Great... This is what I call being insensate to sensitivity (not just being insensitive). Here's what I have a problem with, one person says something offensive to another, then, rather then exploring and understanding why the other person is offended, the offense is further compounded because the offended party is simply dismissed as being too sensitive (typical narcissistic response). And yet you think Obama's picture is "funny as fuck", care to elaborate? Oh well I don't know fuck all about anything, do I? Different strokes for different folks, I'll leave it at that.

Go ahead and post the image at work Mr USAF flight mechanic, I don't really care about your job either. By the way, those taxes you complain about, they pay your bills. surreal



where were you when everyone was ragging on Sarah Palin, like there wasnt racist + sexist comments thrown in on that one. O yea now i know you probably didnt say shit cause shes not a LIBERAL. Thats all there is to this, so please dont waste time with a reply

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

JUL 25, 2009 02:51 PM

ENFORCER99 said:

where were you when everyone was ragging on Sarah Palin, like there wasnt racist + sexist comments thrown in on that one. O yea now i know you probably didnt say shit cause shes not a LIBERAL. Thats all there is to this, so please dont waste time with a reply



Other people's poor actions don't excuse the absolutely disgusting bullshit coming out of you. whatever

ARRR!!!

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

JUL 25, 2009 02:52 PM

ENFORCER99 said:
where were you when everyone was ragging on Sarah Palin, like there wasnt racist + sexist comments thrown in on that one. O yea now i know you probably didnt say shit cause shes not a LIBERAL. Thats all there is to this, so please dont waste time with a reply



False. Nearly all attacks on Sarah Palin were about her politics, her lack of intelligence, and about her being a general fool. None of which have any bearing on her gender.

Those few who attacked her gender were wrong. But this is just another example of conservatives creating attacks on themselves where none exist. It is possible to dislike Sarah Palin because of her politics and corruption. But anytime someone criticizes her for being an idiot, we get the knee-jerk reaction "You hate women!!!" which is pure bullshit.

ENFORCER99

ENFORCER99

Vacaville, CA
July 2009

JUL 25, 2009 03:04 PM

FreakPirate said:

ENFORCER99 said:

where were you when everyone was ragging on Sarah Palin, like there wasnt racist + sexist comments thrown in on that one. O yea now i know you probably didnt say shit cause shes not a LIBERAL. Thats all there is to this, so please dont waste time with a reply



Other people's poor actions don't excuse the absolutely disgusting bullshit coming out of you. whatever

ARRR!!!



http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:y_buzz_log:eaaff7802839108e3970f5c1b7de3934/Obamas-Headed-for-Vineyard-Vacation?cpm=1

is this not disgusting, read the comments those are coming from REAL people

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

JUL 25, 2009 03:13 PM



I'm sorry. That has nothing to do with you being a thick headed racist troll.

ARRR!!!

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

JUL 25, 2009 03:15 PM

ENFORCER99 said:

FreakPirate said:

ENFORCER99 said:

where were you when everyone was ragging on Sarah Palin, like there wasnt racist + sexist comments thrown in on that one. O yea now i know you probably didnt say shit cause shes not a LIBERAL. Thats all there is to this, so please dont waste time with a reply



Other people's poor actions don't excuse the absolutely disgusting bullshit coming out of you. whatever

ARRR!!!



http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:y_buzz_log:eaaff7802839108e3970f5c1b7de3934/Obamas-Headed-for-Vineyard-Vacation?cpm=1

is this not disgusting, read the comments those are coming from REAL people


Non sequitur, the link is irrelevant to this thread as is Sarah Palin. Besides, the web page you linked to should have clued you in: "Yahoo Buzz". biggrin

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

JUL 25, 2009 03:33 PM

ENFORCER99 said:

FreakPirate said:

ENFORCER99 said:

where were you when everyone was ragging on Sarah Palin, like there wasnt racist + sexist comments thrown in on that one. O yea now i know you probably didnt say shit cause shes not a LIBERAL. Thats all there is to this, so please dont waste time with a reply



Other people's poor actions don't excuse the absolutely disgusting bullshit coming out of you. whatever

ARRR!!!



http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:y_buzz_log:eaaff7802839108e3970f5c1b7de3934/Obamas-Headed-for-Vineyard-Vacation?cpm=1

is this not disgusting, read the comments those are coming from REAL people



Oh my god! Why didn't we stop them? I...I can't go on living, knowing that I allowed those all of those transgressions to transpire.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

JUL 25, 2009 11:46 PM

malkav11 said:
I guess to me it still sounds from your arguments like it's about what the other parent -should- do, more than what most reliably provides for the child. And yes, of course they should provide for the child they helped make. But plenty of them don't, and while the government can certainly make every attempt to ensure they do, that costs money too.



It costs much less money to attempt to enforce child support than it does to actually raise a child. Child services also gets a percentage of the child support taken. They are somewhat self reliant, when you pay child support a certain amount is actually taken by the agency. (at least in Ohio)

There's a point at which that stops being cost effective. Do they actually stop when they reach that point?



If i sat down and tallied everything from birth to now, my daughter has cost me a little over $150,000 including medical bills.

There is no such thing as "cost effective" when you're dealing with the health of a child. I have, and would do it again, gone into extreme debt in order to ensure my daughter is healthy.

It's much more cost effective to ensure that the obliged parties are paying and sticking to their obligations. Kids are not cheap.

I also wonder just how many of those government benefits assume that if there's another responsible party, they're contributing. Whether or not they actually are. -That- sure wouldn't be in the best interests of providing for the child.



The system is inherently flawed and very easy to abuse. Subrosa may argue with me, but the local agency here makes automatic assumptions that are highly insulting to parents, especially fathers, when dealing with them.


malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

JUL 26, 2009 09:59 AM

What I mean by cost effective is this - if at any point the agency is putting in more money than is actually being recovered in child support, it would be more effective to simply give that money to the custodial parent to help raise the child. And I don't know what kind of money we're typically talking about when it comes to deadbeat parents, either spent to recover child support, or actually recovered in child support. If the latter figure is low enough in a given instance, it doesn't seem to me that it would matter if the agency's expenses were enough by themselves to raise a child - it's still inefficient.

CaliTex

CaliTex

Santa Monica, CA
February 2004

JUL 26, 2009 10:38 AM

khoos said:

whippedboy88445 said:
My simple point is, if you are going to CHOOSE to have a child, go have one and STOP fucking whining about it.



Then you're missing the point. If men have to sign off on abortions, where does the woman maintain her right to CHOOSE?
She will be able to choose to ask someone else to allow it. That's not really much of a choice eh?



Fuck!! I SPECIFICALLY said that this is ENTIRELY up to the woman in my first post. NO legislation should be involved. Maybe you should refrain from posting if you're not going to actually READ the posts. Again, YOUR choice of course. I'd hat e for you to have to come to me to sign off. heh
And, once again coyotemike, that comment was meant to be at YOUR expense. Really? You're going to "GIGGLE" for hours? Wow.

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