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  • WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 5 2008 5:00 PM

Real Love: How True Families Are Affected by the Hate of Prop 8

Part 1: Julie Rose and Lynda Brocchini



Shortly before going to bed at midnight last night, Julie Rose updated her Facebook status message: "Julie Rose is wondering if she will still be married in the morning."

Rose wasn't waiting for a divorce to finalize, or for her spouse to leave her. Instead, the legality of her marriage to Lynda Brocchini (her partner of a decade) was hanging in the balance, at the mercy of California voters deciding on the fate of Proposition 8. If passed, Prop 8 would amend the State Constitution to ban same-sex unions such as theirs.

Today, even with some three to four million absentee ballots yet to be counted, Prop 8 still looks to be on the road to passing in California, with 52.5% in favor and 47.5% against the measure at press time. San Francisco, Los Angeles and Santa Clara County (the latter where the bulk of Silicon Valley is based) have already joined forces in filing a petition with the California Supreme Court for a writ of mandate to invalidate Prop 8, so the fight isn't even close to being over. But for families like Rose and Brocchini, who share a three-year-old son named Dylan and have had no less than five different commitment ceremonies together (including one performed by San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom himself), this is a truly difficult and disheartening moment.

"It's hard, because there's all this talk of, 'Yes we can,' and change," says Rose, "But for a group of us, it doesn't feel all there."

Proposition 8 was endorsed and largely funded by individuals and organizations with ties to religious groups such as the Roman Catholic Church and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

"What kills me is that the people funding [Prop 8] are people who say that say they are religious people and all of these churches, the Catholic church and the Mormon church that threw all this money behind this, claim to be Christian people," Rose observes. "I can see why the 'No on 8' people would throw a lot of money behind it, because you're fighting for your rights. But these 'Yes on 8' people who threw millions and millions of dollars that they spent to take rights away from us, why aren't they spending it trying to help poor children or feed people or build houses for people or help third world countries? Isn't that what Christianity is supposed to be about? Helping people, not trying to hurt people?

"If I belonged to a church and I gave money to that church thinking it was to feed people who were hungry or homeless and then I found out that they were using it on a political campaign to take rights away from somebody, I don't know how happy I would be about that."

For the past seven years, Rose has worked for Levi Strauss & Co., the San-Francisco-based company that made history in 1992 by being the first Fortune 500 company to extend its domestic partner medical benefits program to same-sex couples. But even that doesn't have equal advantage to married couples, as she explains.

"I don't get to claim married medical benefits, so all the benefits that they pay for my partner medically, I get taxed on as income. And we had to go to an attorney to have all of this complicated paperwork drawn up –– a married couple, even if they got a trust put together, they pay one fee for the trust. Well, we had to pay for each of us, so twice as much. There's a lot of real, concrete benefits that you don't get.

"In California, domestic partnership laws after AB205 are very good. But also there's the whole 'separate but equal' argument, saying, 'Well, why do you need the word marriage if you have everything else?' But why can't we have the word marriage? Why should it be good enough that we should get a subclass of the same thing? The word shouldn't just be used for one group of people. If they were running around and saying that black people couldn't say they were married, or interracial marriages could only say that they were civil unions, people would think they were ridiculous."

While the battle for Prop 8 continues, so does this family's strength and devotion to the idea that this story will have a happy ending.

"Our son gets really excited when he sees our wedding pictures," she adds. "He thinks it was so great because he was at [two] of them, and he says, 'Mommies are married!' It's not like he's old enough that I could even begin to explain [Prop 8] to him, but I'm hoping he's not going to remember a time when we weren't legally married."

 

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Fixer

Fixer

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

NOV 07, 2008 04:19 PM

FearTheReaper said:

They are clearly on the edge and playing with fire.




Someone on Calitics writes a detailed opinion on this very topic.

http://calitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7465

"...this endeavor is hopeless. There is no chance in hell that the IRS will even seriously consider stripping the Mormon church of its tax-exempt status. In order to strip the church's 501(c)(3) status, it would have to be shown that a "substantial part" of the Mormon church, as a whole, is devoted to influencing legislation. By any measure, the church's involvement here is not a "substantial part" of the church's overall operations. For example, courts have held that when less than 5 percent of an organization's activities are devoted to lobbying, it is presumptively not a "substantial part." Seasongood v. Commissioner, 227 F.2d 907. Does anyone really think that the Mormon church devoted more than 5 percent of its global activities to influencing Prop 8?"


s5

s5

STAFF

San Francisco, CA

NOV 07, 2008 04:47 PM

Even if it fails, I'm 100% in favor of shining some sunlight on the excessive influence that churches have on politics.

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

NOV 07, 2008 04:50 PM

RileyStClair said:
is there a silent christian animal rights movement out there that i just don't know about?



Yes, actually. smile

http://www.all-creatures.org/cva/default.htm

Peta2 even makes a whole bunch of religiously-oriented material too -- you've never seen those stickers with cartoon farm animals on them that say "Jesus loves me too"? smile

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X_Racer_X

X_Racer_X

Philadelphia, PA
July 2008

NOV 07, 2008 04:51 PM

Stiles said:

X_Racer_X said:
Stuff.



Where did that quote come from, out of curiosity?



A discussion between me a my brother that took me a bejeezus amount of time to convey coherently.

smile

nicole_powers

nicole_powers

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

NOV 17, 2008 02:06 PM



Margaret Cho's musical musings on Prop H8te.


MadViking

MadViking

USA
February 2008

NOV 18, 2008 04:38 PM

Fixer said:

The only hope in this direction seems to be to get another 400,000+ voters to change their individual minds. Attacking them as a group by attacking their church would be a mistake, in my opinion.

I still think a better way to go would be to take steps to reframe things in ways their religion does not argue against. Keep the discussion away from marriage & homosexuality, focus on ways to obtain the same legal & tax benefits.



I think the approach to take would be to agree that marriage is defined in the bible and as a religious belief should fall under the seperation of church and state. That is it should have no legal weight in terms of health benefits or any other social concern that is outside the realm of any individual religion. We don't discriminate between marriages of the christian, jewish, muslim, or any other faith and still give them all the same legal advantage. Let's make civil unions or whatever name you want to give it the legal status of any citizen who wants to commit to any other citizen and let marriage stay just a title of our individual faith.

Not that this will ever happen but I can dream.

phrogg

phrogg

Greenville, SC
August 2005

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