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Republican Scumbaggery

In what may be the most pathetic villain campaign since the War on Christmas, Republicans have picked a new bad guy: the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. You may know them as ACORN. As you can see in the name, they are community organizers, those horrible people Sarah Palin mocks for trying to help the poor. I’m sure Jesus would hate them, too. ACORN has been busy signing up new voters, which means they are largely poor, minority voters. That means Democrats. That means Republicans have to portray another group working to better our country via democracy as evil.

This recent hate barrage against ACORN started when the press began writing about the huge number of people the group was registering.

Since the last federal election in 2006, volunteers like Graham combined with the enthusiasm generated by the Obama-Clinton struggle to add more than 2 million Democrats to voter rolls in the 28 states that register voters according to party affiliation. The Republicans have lost nearly 344,000 voters in the same states.



So, what to do? Accept that your party is quickly becoming the second fiddle of American politics and adapt to the situation by changing your platform, or attack the people taking part in democracy? Well, if you’re a Republican, the answer is obvious.



Yes, attack the community organizers! And tie in Obama, even though his connection is tenuous at best. So tenuous that it is not even worth discussing.

This isn’t new; Republicans have been after ACORN for years. It’s kind of like watching a CEO beat up a homeless woman. Expect the next month to be filled with attacks from sexual harasser Bill O’Reilly, drug addict Rush Limbaugh and anti-Semite Sean Hannity. Maybe when they are done, they can kick a nun in the face.

ACORN hires low-income people to register other low-income people. They get paid per registration, so you can see how the operation would be susceptible to scumbags looking to make a few bucks without doing any work. It’s the nature of the beast. But, here’s the exciting thing: Fraud such as this does not in anyway effect elections. Why? Because filling out a fake registration cards to make a few bucks does not mean that someone will be voting. It means that person does not exist and therefore cannot vote. You actually have to exist to vote. There have been zero instances of this type of “voter fraud” occurring. This is what the Attorney General scandal is about. The Bush Administration wanted US Attorneys to go after these people, but the prosecutors found zero evidence of fraud and those who refused to prosecute because of the lack of evidence were fired.

That being said, ACORN does everything it can to stop this type of criminal activity. The organization attempts to authenticate every registration submitted by workers but our laws force them to turn in every registration form, whether fraudulent or not. See a problem there? ACORN flags the registration forms they believe are fraudulent, but still, they must turn them in. Then Republicans scream their asses off like a bunch of douchebags, “ACORN is committing voter fraud! They've turned in thousands of fraudulent registration forms!”

Lake County Republican Chairman John Curley wants a federal investigation into hundreds of voter registrations bearing fictitious signatures or the names of dead and underage people.

"Fraudulent applications are the workings of ACORN groups operating from Milwaukee and Chicago who are getting out the vote for Obama. I'm Republican, but I want everyone who should vote to vote. But I want a clean election," Curley said at a Wednesday news conference.



John Curley is a douchebag. Deep down he knows that and it causes him internal pain. Hopefully he works that out before he dies. It’s really wretched stupidity and an affront to Democracy. Our system was set up to deal with these sorts of occurrences.

Curley acknowledges the work of the county elections board to weed out obviously invalid applications.



No shit? Who would have known? This is exactly what happened in Nevada this week. The Vegas chapter of ACORN was about to have a potluck dinner (elitists) to celebrate signing up 80,000 new voters, when they were raided.

Instead, their office was raided Tuesday morning by agents of the Nevada Secretary of State and Attorney General who alleged in an application for a search warrant that ACORN had hired 59 felons through a work release program as canvassers and submitted nearly 300 apparently fraudulent voter registration cards as part of the drive.



Let’s see. Getting my calculator out here. 80,000, 300, uh…that’s .3%. Holy shit! Put them in jail! And ignore the fact that the system is set up to catch problems like this! And ignore the fact that 79,700 people were legally registered by this group. And ignore the fact that ACORN was forced to submit those forms BY LAW and flagged them as fraudulent!

ACORN's internal checks, Mellor said, included tracking forms assigned to canvassers using serial numbers and worker sign-offs on each form and following up with listed voters by phone to verify they had taken part in the registration drive. The search warrant mentions those procedures.

That cooperation and meetings with state officials also are mentioned in the search affidavit, as is a subpoena from the state that was delivered to ACORN in September asking the group to resubmit information on several employees it had previously turned over to county elections officials. The forms were resubmitted, Mellor said.



Yes, raid a community organization that is cooperating with you. That’s some quality law enforcement. And, hey, as a by-product, there’s no good news in the papers about 80,000 new registrants. What a shock. But there are a few tidbits indicating law enforcement officials knew this was a case of individual fraud and not the entire organization.

The submitted voter cards included addresses and names that do not exist in Nevada, duplicate registrations, names culled from telephone books and names of Dallas Cowboys players, an investigator for the Secretary of State alleged in his affidavit for a search warrant.

One ex-employee of ACORN reached by the state investigator told him she began making up names for her forms on days when it was too hot to work outside. ACORN canvassers are paid by the hour.



Now, Republicans will explain this was not a partisan attack because the Nevada Secretary of State and Attorney General are Democrats. Uh huh.

In July, the two Nevada state agencies involved in the raid, along with the FBI and U.S. Attorney's Office for Nevada, formed a task force to target voter registration and election fraud and complaints over voter registration practices, potential voter fraud, and enforcement of laws regarding voter intimidation.



The US Attorney’s Office –– here we are, back at the Republican machine and the root cause of the Attorney General Scandal. The scandal in which employees of the White House still refuse to honor Congressional subpoenas.

This vilifying of community organizations has led to heinous voter ID laws in states like Indiana and massive Republican intimidation at the polls. Republicans will use ACORN to cause chaos at the polls and challenge voters when they show up. Because what ACORN has done is reprehensible, while Republicans around the country do what is right.

The chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County, Michigan, a key swing county in a key swing state, is planning to use a list of foreclosed homes to block people from voting in the upcoming election as part of the state GOP’s effort to challenge some voters on Election Day.

“We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren’t voting from those addresses,” party chairman James Carabelli told Michigan Messenger in a telephone interview earlier this week. He said the local party wanted to make sure that proper electoral procedures were followed.



Thank God they care, or those .003% of registration cards flagged by ACORN would have gotten through and people who lost their homes in Michigan would be able to vote.

FearTheReaper is a writer, actor and stand up comedian. Check back each Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday for more from FearTheReaper and read his blog, Stop All Monsters.

 

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Stiles

Stiles

Los Angeles, CA
November 2002

OCT 10, 2008 01:10 PM

durbustweeb said:
Stiles, I would really prefer you to look it up yourself with your own resources, as this stuff is EASY to back up, but to make it most easy for you:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

ACORN (role of activist groups):
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_wsj-acorn_squash.htm
http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/Bernanke20070330a.htm
www.consumersrightsleague.org/uploadedfiles/ACORN_release.pdf

LOOSENING CRA RULES LEADING TO BAD LOANS:
http://clinton6.nara.gov/1993/12/1993-12-08-briefing-by-bentsen-and-rubin.text.html
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02052008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_real_scandal_243911.htm
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119794091743935595.html

RAINES:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/19/business/19fannie.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C06E6D6113EF935A35756C0A9619C8B63
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03E0DA173EF936A25752C1A9609C8B63

OBAMA COUNSEL: http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120943129695651437.html

BUNDLING BAD LOANS: http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/Bernanke20070330a.htm

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Wake the fuck up, people. Obama isn't the poster child for POSITIVE change, and has surrounded himself with many of the shucksters who made their vast fortunes through the commissions of these toxic mortgages.

You guys elect him, and in the long run it will set back the progressive movement in the US for many, many years to come as all of these very real associations come home to roost - which they will. He's not the solution, folks, and will be the George Bush of the democrat party as it becomes apparent the fox is in charge of the henhouse. He gets elected, there will be a most nasty 2010 season as the voters will know what they've gotten themselves into with him and the elitists he runs with.

I can't stand McCain/Palin, was set for voting Obama, but DID MY FREAKIN HOMEWORK. It will be -far- better for the party if McCain won, because recovery is out of the president's hands and the voter outrage right now will pale in comparison to 2010 and 2012. And does anyone really think McCain is up to run in 2012, or believe Palin will be a serious contender for the presidency?

Not exactly what the average SGer wants to hear, but if you don't do the research yourself and blindly go pulling the lever for anyone, even your own candidate, you're voting blind and voting stupid.

And oh yeah, FTR already put me on ignore when I suggested it was immature to put people on ignore. Quite the intellectual, objective genius.



Great, you can Google. Now tell me how an act passed in 1977 and affecting a small fraction of the overall market caused the lending bubble of 1998-2006.

I'll give you a hint: it didn't.

Why don't you tell me the percentage of CRA loans that have gone bad (late/default/forclosure)? While you're at it, tell me how large that number is, in relation to the entire US mortgage market?


PS - I'm not doing your heavy lifting for you. You're regurgitating talking points without demonstrating any understanding of the big picture.

MessyJesse

MessyJesse

Roanoke, VA
February 2008

OCT 10, 2008 01:21 PM

Stiles said:

durbustweeb said:
Stiles, I would really prefer you to look it up yourself with your own resources, as this stuff is EASY to back up, but to make it most easy for you:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

ACORN (role of activist groups):
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_wsj-acorn_squash.htm
http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/Bernanke20070330a.htm
www.consumersrightsleague.org/uploadedfiles/ACORN_release.pdf

LOOSENING CRA RULES LEADING TO BAD LOANS:
http://clinton6.nara.gov/1993/12/1993-12-08-briefing-by-bentsen-and-rubin.text.html
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02052008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_real_scandal_243911.htm
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119794091743935595.html

RAINES:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/19/business/19fannie.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C06E6D6113EF935A35756C0A9619C8B63
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03E0DA173EF936A25752C1A9609C8B63

OBAMA COUNSEL: http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120943129695651437.html

BUNDLING BAD LOANS: http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/Bernanke20070330a.htm

------------

Wake the fuck up, people. Obama isn't the poster child for POSITIVE change, and has surrounded himself with many of the shucksters who made their vast fortunes through the commissions of these toxic mortgages.

You guys elect him, and in the long run it will set back the progressive movement in the US for many, many years to come as all of these very real associations come home to roost - which they will. He's not the solution, folks, and will be the George Bush of the democrat party as it becomes apparent the fox is in charge of the henhouse. He gets elected, there will be a most nasty 2010 season as the voters will know what they've gotten themselves into with him and the elitists he runs with.

I can't stand McCain/Palin, was set for voting Obama, but DID MY FREAKIN HOMEWORK. It will be -far- better for the party if McCain won, because recovery is out of the president's hands and the voter outrage right now will pale in comparison to 2010 and 2012. And does anyone really think McCain is up to run in 2012, or believe Palin will be a serious contender for the presidency?

Not exactly what the average SGer wants to hear, but if you don't do the research yourself and blindly go pulling the lever for anyone, even your own candidate, you're voting blind and voting stupid.

And oh yeah, FTR already put me on ignore when I suggested it was immature to put people on ignore. Quite the intellectual, objective genius.



Great, you can Google. Now tell me how an act passed in 1977 and affecting a small fraction of the overall market caused the lending bubble of 1998-2006.

I'll give you a hint: it didn't.

Why don't you tell me the percentage of CRA loans that have gone bad (late/default/forclosure)? While you're at it, tell me how large that number is, in relation to the entire US mortgage market?


PS - I'm not doing your heavy lifting for you. You're regurgitating talking points without demonstrating any understanding of the big picture.



I also notice he didn't mention Credit Default Swaps...

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

OCT 10, 2008 01:24 PM

durbustweeb said:
Wake the fuck up, people. Obama isn't the poster child for POSITIVE change, and has surrounded himself with many of the shucksters who made their vast fortunes through the commissions of these toxic mortgages.

You guys elect him, and in the long run it will set back the progressive movement in the US for many, many years to come as all of these very real associations come home to roost - which they will. He's not the solution, folks, and will be the George Bush of the democrat party as it becomes apparent the fox is in charge of the henhouse. He gets elected, there will be a most nasty 2010 season as the voters will know what they've gotten themselves into with him and the elitists he runs with.

I can't stand McCain/Palin, was set for voting Obama, but DID MY FREAKIN HOMEWORK. It will be -far- better for the party if McCain won, because recovery is out of the president's hands and the voter outrage right now will pale in comparison to 2010 and 2012. And does anyone really think McCain is up to run in 2012, or believe Palin will be a serious contender for the presidency?

Not exactly what the average SGer wants to hear, but if you don't do the research yourself and blindly go pulling the lever for anyone, even your own candidate, you're voting blind and voting stupid.

And oh yeah, FTR already put me on ignore when I suggested it was immature to put people on ignore. Quite the intellectual, objective genius.



Wait, you think four years of John McCain picking Supreme Court nominees, fucking up our healthcare system and bombing Iran is going to be better for the country, or "the democrat party", than Obama getting elected?

Uh, yeah, fuck that noise. I heard enough of that bullshit from "progressives" in 2000, thank you very much.

Oh, and the whole "The CRA and those darn pesky liberals caused the housing crisis by forcing banks to lend money to brown people" thing is also bullshit.

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

I'm lost
November 2003

OCT 10, 2008 01:25 PM

durbustweeb said:

smithers_jones said:

durbustweeb said:

I never told you not to vote Obama. I told you why I won't, and am TRYING to prepare for the inevitable screwing we're going to get by not dealing in fact.



Thank you, Nostradamus.



No, I'll thank most of you when the pendulum swings back in two years, just as it did 12 years ago for the other side.



In what respect, Charlie?

hk85

hk85

Guerneville, CA
October 2007

OCT 10, 2008 01:25 PM

durbustweeb said:
By extension you're suggesting that if someone writes for DailyKos and Salon, conservatives should disregard any documentation they present? You would also have to buy into the logic that because birds fly, chickens are therefore not birds.

Do you not understand that they best way to beat your opponent is to know as much as you can about the FACTS they use to support their argument, and call them on it when they go into spin mode? Fund may have written it, he may be a clown (I don't know him personally), but he writes from historical record. Hell, even Limbaugh, who IS a propagandist of the worst fashion, doesn't make up ALL of what he cites. He just twists it until one can't recognize it anymore.

HOW CAN YOU EVEN HAVE A DISCOURSE IF YOU THROW OUT THE FACTS BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE WHO'S PRESENTING THEM? Have ONE of you people ever actually rescued a conservative through intelligent, fact-based dialogue?



Dude, chill out and reread what I said. I think going after ACORN is Republican Douchebaggery at it's finest. You haven't provided me any reason for me to remotely consider changing my mind.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 10, 2008 01:28 PM


durbustweeb said:
And oh yeah, FTR already put me on ignore when I suggested it was immature to put people on ignore. Quite the intellectual, objective genius.



I put you on ignore for being an idiot. You can think it happened anyway you want, though.

The only thing that saddens me is when people respond to your drivel, I then see your nonsense.

But, idiot indeed. That is the reason.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

OCT 10, 2008 01:28 PM

Coyotemike said:
I just love how all sorts of different people think that "Wake up, you're stupid, I'm the only smart one" is a tactic that will somehow get folks to change their minds.



I love it even MOAR! When they give me OP-ED links and tell me i am stupid because i can't think for myself.

Three quarters of the links he posted started with a header that said "OPINION".

MessyJesse

MessyJesse

Roanoke, VA
February 2008

OCT 10, 2008 01:29 PM

Uncognitive said:
Oh, and the whole "The CRA and those darn pesky liberals caused the housing crisis by forcing banks to lend money to brown people" thing is also bullshit.



Exactly, the sub-prime crisis occured because lenders got too fucking greedy and there was absolutely no regulation... The fed constantly lowering rates coupled with the aformentioned lack of regulation led to banks seeing dollar signs and borrowers seeing mortgages they shouldn't have taken as "low-risk".

Stiles

Stiles

Los Angeles, CA
November 2002

OCT 10, 2008 01:31 PM

MessyJesse said:

Stiles said:

durbustweeb said:
Stiles, I would really prefer you to look it up yourself with your own resources, as this stuff is EASY to back up, but to make it most easy for you:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

ACORN (role of activist groups):
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_wsj-acorn_squash.htm
http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/Bernanke20070330a.htm
www.consumersrightsleague.org/uploadedfiles/ACORN_release.pdf

LOOSENING CRA RULES LEADING TO BAD LOANS:
http://clinton6.nara.gov/1993/12/1993-12-08-briefing-by-bentsen-and-rubin.text.html
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02052008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_real_scandal_243911.htm
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119794091743935595.html

RAINES:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/19/business/19fannie.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C06E6D6113EF935A35756C0A9619C8B63
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03E0DA173EF936A25752C1A9609C8B63

OBAMA COUNSEL: http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120943129695651437.html

BUNDLING BAD LOANS: http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/Bernanke20070330a.htm

------------

Wake the fuck up, people. Obama isn't the poster child for POSITIVE change, and has surrounded himself with many of the shucksters who made their vast fortunes through the commissions of these toxic mortgages.

You guys elect him, and in the long run it will set back the progressive movement in the US for many, many years to come as all of these very real associations come home to roost - which they will. He's not the solution, folks, and will be the George Bush of the democrat party as it becomes apparent the fox is in charge of the henhouse. He gets elected, there will be a most nasty 2010 season as the voters will know what they've gotten themselves into with him and the elitists he runs with.

I can't stand McCain/Palin, was set for voting Obama, but DID MY FREAKIN HOMEWORK. It will be -far- better for the party if McCain won, because recovery is out of the president's hands and the voter outrage right now will pale in comparison to 2010 and 2012. And does anyone really think McCain is up to run in 2012, or believe Palin will be a serious contender for the presidency?

Not exactly what the average SGer wants to hear, but if you don't do the research yourself and blindly go pulling the lever for anyone, even your own candidate, you're voting blind and voting stupid.

And oh yeah, FTR already put me on ignore when I suggested it was immature to put people on ignore. Quite the intellectual, objective genius.



Great, you can Google. Now tell me how an act passed in 1977 and affecting a small fraction of the overall market caused the lending bubble of 1998-2006.

I'll give you a hint: it didn't.

Why don't you tell me the percentage of CRA loans that have gone bad (late/default/forclosure)? While you're at it, tell me how large that number is, in relation to the entire US mortgage market?


PS - I'm not doing your heavy lifting for you. You're regurgitating talking points without demonstrating any understanding of the big picture.



I also notice he didn't mention Credit Default Swaps...



I know. Baby steps, baby steps. Gotta learn to walk before you can run.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

OCT 10, 2008 01:47 PM

DevilsReject said:

Coyotemike said:
I just love how all sorts of different people think that "Wake up, you're stupid, I'm the only smart one" is a tactic that will somehow get folks to change their minds.



I love it even MOAR! When they give me OP-ED links and tell me i am stupid because i can't think for myself.

Three quarters of the links he posted started with a header that said "OPINION".



Especially since most of those editorials are from the Wall Street Journal, most famous for referring to poor people as "Lucky Duckies".

Stiles

Stiles

Los Angeles, CA
November 2002

OCT 10, 2008 01:50 PM

I've subscribed to the WSJ for years, and they generally provide a good perspective on straight financial reporting, but they have a serious blind spot about regulation of the markets and their editorials often border on the ridiculous.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 10, 2008 01:52 PM

Stiles said:
I've subscribed to the WSJ for years, and they generally provide a good perspective on straight financial reporting, but they have a serious blind spot about regulation of the markets and their editorials often border on the ridiculous.



Their political editorials are no different than Fox News. It's been that way for years.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

OCT 10, 2008 01:59 PM

Stiles said:
I've subscribed to the WSJ for years, and they generally provide a good perspective on straight financial reporting, but they have a serious blind spot about regulation of the markets and their editorials often border on the ridiculous.



This gives me an excuse to trot out my favorite WSJ-related quote:

"One of the things that has fascinated me about The Wall Street Journal editorial page is its occasional capacity to rise above the routine moral callousness of hack conservative punditry and attain a level of exquisite depravity normally reserved for villains in James Bond movies."

trucapote

trucapote

I'm lost
February 2008

OCT 10, 2008 02:29 PM

This article is supposed to be sarcasim, right? You really think that paying people to register to vote is part of Democracty? I originally thought that you were a pretty smart dude, great writer and even that you made a good case. However, your support of ACORN must be a slip in your abilities....

Katieesq

Katieesq

USA
June 2008

OCT 10, 2008 02:31 PM

trucapote said:
This article is supposed to be sarcasim, right? You really think that paying people to register to vote is part of Democracty? I originally thought that you were a pretty smart dude, great writer and even that you made a good case. However, your support of ACORN must be a slip in your abilities....



Paying people to register voters, not paying people to register to vote.

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