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Get Health Care Up In This Bitch

THURSDAY AUGUST 28 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By FearTheReaper.

TAGS: Health Care, Barack Obama, John McCain

While the amazing, four-day Democratic commercial goes on, I thought this would be a good time to revisit a topic that has dropped off the grid since the spring. Remember health care? Seemed to be a big topic a few months ago, but not so much now. Now we’re clearly more concerned with who’s a bigger celebrity and how many houses Old School owns.

But 45 million Americans do not have health care and 25 million more are underinsured. McCain and Obama have very different ideas on reforming health care. I’m going to break their shit down and you’re going to read it. That’s how we do.

McCain’s plan is a piece of shit created in jackass land. It does NOTHING to address the problem of uninsured Americans. NOTHING. Did I make that point strong enough? I used capital letters. That is some serious shit.

Johnny’s plan is more of the same crap that already got us into this mess. It’s all about “market forces and individually purchased insurance.” Sweet. Up until now we haven't tried "market forces and individually purchased insurance." It's so fresh!

Old School’s plan mainly focuses on….taxes. What a big surprise.


Currently, workers do not pay taxes on health insurance premiums paid by their employers. The McCain plan would eliminate this tax exclusion and use the revenue generated — projected to be $3.6 trillion over 10 years — to pay for refundable tax credits for Americans obtaining private insurance ($2,500 for individuals, $5,000 for families). Uninsured Americans could use their credits to help buy insurance coverage on the individual market, and workers with employer-sponsored insurance could use theirs to offset the cost of paying taxes on their employers’ premium contributions or to purchase coverage on their own.


Oooooo. That sounds fucking awesome. Unless, of course, you are like the millions of Americans who can’t get insurance due to your medical history, or one of the millions of Americans who have claims denied and are dropped because they had the gall to have surgery. But don’t worry about that, because McCain will solve the problems of spiraling costs with “deregulation.”

Oh, fuck yes. Please, more deregulation. It has worked out so very well in every other market over the past ten years, especially energy and housing. Old School’s plan would allow insurers to sell across state lines and people would be able to buy policies from companies in any state. Wow, that should not make even the slightest difference.

McCain also believes by making insurance more “visible,” people will seek out lower cost insurance plans. Johnny thinks if workers can see how much their employers are paying, they would go for the cheaper insurance.


Since Americans would receive a fixed credit, the expectation is that they would seek out lower-cost, less comprehensive insurance plans, fostering competition among insurers.


Yeah, good luck with that. In the end, McCain’s plan doesn’t do shit for people who can’t afford insurance. Most uninsured people would remain uninsured and the fixed tax credit would lead to a gap in affordability as health care spending increases. And the number of Americans paying higher taxes for employer insurance would go up, too. McCain’s plan would force many people to purchase higher deductible, less comprehensive insurance. Oh, and if we got rid of the tax benefits of employer sponsored insurance, some businesses would stop insuring workers. How great does that sound?

But don’t fret, because McCain has proposed a “guaranteed access plan.”


The federal government would work with states to create insurance alternatives for those unable to afford coverage on the individual market. The plan builds on the experiences of the 34 states that operate high-risk pools for residents who are deemed to be medically uninsurable.


Oh, good. The castaways. Only, McCain’s plan has no way to pay for this part. It’s quite simply, bullshit. His interstate insurance market plan would actually weaken some states regulated protections. Oh, and those “34 states” plans already have high costs and limited benefits.

McCain basically is offering very little. It’s more of the same, which is unacceptable considering the situation we currently find ourselves in. If McCain is elected, expect our health care situation to get a lot worse.

Now, Obama at least seems to be trying, though he is also a bit deluded. Barack wants to spend money. Lots and lots of money. His plan includes an employer mandate, insurance regulation and a combination of public and private insurance.

Under Obama, employers will have to offer employees insurance or pay a tax. Smaller business would not have to pay a tax.


The Obama plan would also create two new options for obtaining health insurance: a new government health plan and a national health insurance exchange that would offer a choice of private insurance options. Both would be open to persons without access to group health insurance or other public insurance, as well as to small businesses that wanted to purchase coverage for their workers. Income-related subsidies would be provided to help lower-income persons afford coverage.


Best of all, insurers would not be able to deny coverage or charge more for preexisting conditions. His new "insurance exchange" would provide a pooling system, which would increase the purchasing power of individuals. Obama believes by pooling people together, it will cut administrative expenses and increase competition. Good luck with that.

And the attempts to cut costs don’t end there. While McCain has proposed little to nothing to drop health care costs, Obama’s plan is much more thoughtful and nuanced.


Other cost-control measures include accelerated adoption of electronic medical records, promoting disease management and better coordination of long-term care, paying providers on the basis of performance and outcomes, strengthening prevention, permitting the federal government to negotiate prescription-drug prices for Medicare patients, cutting excessive payments to private health plans contracting with Medicare, and establishing an institute for comparative-effectiveness research to generate information about effective treatments.


A big criticism of Obama’s plan is that it does not mandate insurance for adults, just children. That means it would not cover all uninsured people, but Obama has stated he may move forward with mandates if his plan does not result in universal health care.

The big problem is the money. The cost control plans are not certain to work and he needs to come up with $50 to $65 billion. He says he will pay for it by ending tax cuts to families making over $250,000 a year, but that will not cover the whole enchilada. He expects to save a lot of money with his cost cutting measures explained above. If they don’t work, it’s going to cost more. And you can pretty much guarantee there will be problems. But we’re spending $15 billion a month in Iraq, so if you are okay with paying for the war but don’t want to pay for universal health insurance, then you are a major douchebag.

Obama’s plan is way better than McCain’s, but it’s got a lot of problems. The only guy who had a decent health care plan was Kucinich. Until you take the profit out of health care, nothing’s going to work. Ever. So, don't get too excited either way, because we are a long way off from something decent.

UPDATE: One of the architects of McCain's healthcare plan uttered this gem today...


Mr. Goodman, who helped craft Sen. John McCain’s health care policy, said anyone with access to an emergency room effectively has insurance, albeit the government acts as the payer of last resort. (Hospital emergency rooms by law cannot turn away a patient in need of immediate care.)

“So I have a solution. And it will cost not one thin dime,” Mr. Goodman said. “The next president of the United States should sign an executive order requiring the Census Bureau to cease and desist from describing any American – even illegal aliens – as uninsured. Instead, the bureau should categorize people according to the likely source of payment should they need care. “So, there you have it. Voila! Problem solved.”




FearTheReaper also is a blogging idiot. Read more of his tripe on his blog, Stop All Monsters.

 

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Tigerwong

Tigerwong

Baltimore, MD
February 2005

AUG 28, 2008 08:09 AM

Well, the good news is that Obama's plan at lest moves toward the goal on universal healthcare. The cost is no small obstacle, but it CAN be done. It's definitely better than McCain's plan, and it'll probably work to a degree.

Nobody's perfect, but at least Obama's plan is the kind of thing that can be improved on as time goes by. In a decade or so we'd be that much closer.

Calypso

Calypso

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

AUG 28, 2008 09:38 AM

I don't even have to read your article to know exactly where you stand. Lo and behold, once I read it, I was right. The paragraphs dedicated to McCain are riddled with sarcasm, curse words, and name-calling. When speaking of Obama, it's, "Well, he's not perfect...but he's trying!"

I used to enjoy reading your articles, but now they just disgust me. You're not exactly writing for a highly-regarded publication, but jesus, you should have some standards and journalistic integrity.

puke

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

Knoxville, TN
OLD SKOOL

AUG 28, 2008 09:56 AM

Calypso said:
I don't even have to read your article to know exactly where you stand. Lo and behold, once I read it, I was right. The paragraphs dedicated to McCain are riddled with sarcasm, curse words, and name-calling. When speaking of Obama, it's, "Well, he's not perfect...but he's trying!"

I used to enjoy reading your articles, but now they just disgust me. You're not exactly writing for a highly-regarded publication, but jesus, you should have some standards and journalistic integrity.

puke



Has he misrepresented McCain and Obama's health care plans?

Calypso

Calypso

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

AUG 28, 2008 10:05 AM

BlastProcessing said:

Calypso said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

I don't even have to read your article to know exactly where you stand. Lo and behold, once I read it, I was right. The paragraphs dedicated to McCain are riddled with sarcasm, curse words, and name-calling. When speaking of Obama, it's, "Well, he's not perfect...but he's trying!"

I used to enjoy reading your articles, but now they just disgust me. You're not exactly writing for a highly-regarded publication, but jesus, you should have some standards and journalistic integrity.

puke



Has he misrepresented McCain and Obama's health care plans?



I don't recall saying as much. My point is that this is supposed to be news, not an opinion piece. Do you really believe this article is a good example of the former?

I'm sure I'll be told that if I don't like what I read, I should avoid his articles, and you know what...That's exactly what I'll be doing from now on.

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

AUG 28, 2008 10:08 AM

The newswire has always been heavy on opinion pieces.

Calypso

Calypso

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

AUG 28, 2008 10:19 AM

Hooraydiation said:
The newswire has always been heavy on opinion pieces.



Yeah...I've been here for a little while. tongue

Jourgenson

Jourgenson

I'm lost
December 2006

AUG 28, 2008 10:35 AM

Using foul language to emphasize your feelings on a subject is kind of immature and pathetic. Try being a little more creative when you express yourself. Maybe more people will bother to give your tripe a chance in the future.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 28, 2008 10:37 AM

Calypso said:

Hooraydiation said:
The newswire has always been heavy on opinion pieces.



Yeah...I've been here for a little while. tongue



Then you should understand why it might seem odd to suggest that it "is supposed to be news, not an opinion piece," and that he should have some "journalistic integrity."

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

AUG 28, 2008 10:40 AM

Using foul language to emphasize your feelings on a subject is kind of immature and pathetic. Try being a little more creative when you express yourself. Maybe more people will bother to give your tripe a chance in the future.



Fretting over naughty words is also immature.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC
August 2004

AUG 28, 2008 10:46 AM

Jourgenson said:
Using foul language to emphasize your feelings on a subject is kind of immature and pathetic. Try being a little more creative when you express yourself. Maybe more people will bother to give your tripe a chance in the future.



what is this? creative writing class? falling back on judging somebody's delivery is probably the worst way to avoid actually rebutting their stance. it's lazy and equally pathetic.

if you feel that this topic requires an intelligent discussion, then go ahead and engage in one. taking shots at something as superficial as harsh language in an opinion piece does nothing but make you look like you either didn't care at all about the topic (save for the profanity) or lacked the cognitive ability to understand it in the first place.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 28, 2008 10:48 AM

Tigerwong said:
Well, the good news is that Obama's plan at lest moves toward the goal on universal healthcare. The cost is no small obstacle, but it CAN be done. It's definitely better than McCain's plan, and it'll probably work to a degree.

Nobody's perfect, but at least Obama's plan is the kind of thing that can be improved on as time goes by. In a decade or so we'd be that much closer.


Thank you for actually addressing the topic. You're the only one to do so thus far.

You're also right. smile

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

AUG 28, 2008 11:03 AM

Other cost-control measures include accelerated adoption of electronic medical records,...



I know this seems like a minor detail, but once it is in place, this alone will save millions of dollars every year by increasing efficiancy in medical offices.

Maybe, someday, I too will be able to have a semi-annual medical checkup . . . .*dreams*

ericwine

ericwine

Charlotte Hall, MD
January 2007

AUG 28, 2008 11:07 AM



Up until now we haven't tried "market forces and individually purchased insurance."



This is actually true, FTR - since most people get their insurance through an employer, it's not individually purchased. So insurance companies view the employers as their customers, not patients. Removing the employer from the equation might make the insurance company more responsive to patients. The employer should be required to pay the cost to the worker as extra wages if (s)he opts out of the employer's plan.

That said, I'd like to try replacing for-profit health insurers with non-profit coops similar to credit unions before turning things over to an unaccountable bureaucracy.

ericwine

ericwine

Charlotte Hall, MD
January 2007

AUG 28, 2008 11:09 AM

coyotemike said:

Other cost-control measures include accelerated adoption of electronic medical records,...



I know this seems like a minor detail, but once it is in place, this alone will save millions of dollars every year by increasing efficiancy in medical offices.

Maybe, someday, I too will be able to have a semi-annual medical checkup . . . .*dreams*



This is true - I remember Hillary Clinton and Newt Gingrich both pushing this step a few years ago. Needless to say the Bush Administration wasn't interested. I've heard this could cut overall health care costs by as much as 10 percent.

Horrorflick

Horrorflick

Detroit, MI
February 2003

AUG 28, 2008 11:41 AM

Yeah, I guess all those people over there in Europe and Canada are so different than us it actually makes their health insurance affordable. Granted, we don't have gills, pollution-reducing symbiotes living in our pulmonary and lymphatic systems, wait, they don't have those! We're just like they are! How come they don't get asked how they're going to pay for their treatment?

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