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FRIDAY AUGUST 8 2008 12:30 PM

Russian and Georgian Forces Clash in Ossetia

Submitted by RedBstrd

Edited by crispy

Tags: Russia, war

"Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory," Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili announced today.

Reuters reported today that the Russian military has entered into territory claimed by the Republic of Georgia - what is currently a breakaway region known as South Ossetia. Russian tanks are currently clashing with Georgian forces in South Ossetia and the Russian airforce is striking targets in Georgia proper.

Russia's decision to use force stemmed most immediately from Georgia's attack on the Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali yesterday. Conflict over spy drones, mutual sniper attacks, and artillery shelling has marred Russian-Georgian relations in the preceding weeks and months.

Russia claims that Georgia is to blame for the fighting:

Saakashvili rejected Russian assertions that the fighting was sparked by events in South Ossetia, where Moscow accuses Georgian forces of aggressive action against Russian peacekeepers and others.

Meanwhile, the Georgian president accuses Russian forces of intentionally targeting civilians and dismisses the Russian claims.

For those not familiar with politics of the south Caucasus, Georgia is an independent nation that borders Russia, Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Armenia. The nation is known for its excellent wines (like kindzmarauli and kvanchkara), spicy cuisine, and being the birthplace of Iosif Dzhugashvili - better known as Stalin. The landscape of Georgia is beautiful and it is home to four UNESCO cultural heritage sites. The population of Georgia is overwhelmingly Eastern Orthodox and has been Christian since Roman times. It is also the home to 12 different living languages (plus Russian and Armenian) and at least 18 distinct ethnic groups.

Russian-Georgian relations date back to the early 1860s, when King Herekle asked for Russian aid (as a fellow Orthodox nation) to secure their independence against both the Ottoman Turks and the Qajar Persians who competed for dominance of the Caucasus. Russia, under Catherine the Great, repeatedly failed to honor military obligations to Herekle but due to court intrigue, the aging monarch feared for the survival of his dynasty. Consequently, he signed the Treaty of Georgievsk in 1873, making Russia the protector of the eastern half of modern Georgia. Under Paul I, Russia formally annexed eastern Georgia in 1801 and conquered the rest within 10 years. The nation remained part of the Russian empire and the Soviet Union (with the exception of a brief independence following the collapse of the Romanov dynasty) until 1991, when Georgia declared its independence.

Things were not rosy* for post-independence Georgia, however, as even the former Soviet dissident and human rights activist Zviad Gamsakhurdia ruled in an authoritarian manner (even accusing his enemies of "sabotage" and treason). After his ouster by a violent coup, the opposition forces appointed Eduard Shevardnadze as president of the nation. His rule was likewise characterized by corruption and nepotism, leading to his peaceful ouster in the Rose Revolution of 2003. Russian Foreign Minister Ivanov negotiated the resignation of Gamsakhurdia in a summit meeting with the Georgian president and the opposition (including pro-Western and American-educated current president Mikheil Saakashvili).

While political representation has taken a turn for the better in the past five years in Georgia, the country is plagued with problems. Almost half of the population lives beneath the poverty line. Corruption and crime are rampant. More importantly - two regions of Georgia broke away after the 1991 independence: South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Following Saakashvili's campaign promises to clamp down on separatism, the leader of the autonomous region of Adjara also threatened to secede, leading to another crisis. While Georgia resolved the Adjara crisis peacefully, it was defeated militarily in its campaigns in both South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Georgia cannot exert military control over either region, largely due to Russian support of the separatists. Both of these conflicts led to slaughter of innocent civilians by all sides and ended in ethnic cleansing of the Georgian population in the breakaway regions.

South Ossetia continues to be a problem for Russian-Georgian relations. The UN, EU, and NATO refuse to recognize South Ossetia as an independent nation, while Russia extends visas to the population. Georgia hopes to suppress the Ossetian de facto independence and Saakashvili is under pressure from the public to do so. Meanwhile, Russia backs South Ossetia as a means of exerting power over Georgia and countering American influence in the region.

America, in fact, is deeply involved in the Russian-Georgian conflict at least in the eyes of the two players. Following George W. Bush's visit to Tbilisi in 2005, the Georgians renamed the street by their airport to "George W. Bush avenue." As a Reuters article notes, the United States has 120 soldiers in Georgia. President Saakashvili asserts that the influence of the US is even deeper, though. According to him, the latest Russian-Georgian conflict:

... is not about Georgia anymore. It's about America, its values.

He continued to say:

They made no secret. The are unhappy with our closeness with the United States, with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, with the West in general.

Meanwhile, the NY Times reports that:

Georgia is also valuable to Washington because it is an ally in the Iraq war. With 2,000 troops in Iraq, it is the third-largest contributor of troops there, after the United States and Britain.

The United States will have difficulty remaining uninvolved, especially given Georgia's immediate decision to pull these troops out of Iraq.

US Presidential candidate John McCain has called on Russia to withdraw from Georgia and asks for an emergency UN Security Council meeting (Note: one already took place 12 hours before he called for it). Some bloggers are already claiming that this event will increase McCain's rating in polls because of his hawkish stance.

*Yeah, that's a pun on Georgia's Rose Revolution...

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Comments

Volkov

San Antonio, TX

OLD SKOOL

AUG 12, 2008 10:48 AM

ack. I wish I had more time to add to this. on a lunch break, most of which I spent reading all of this.
great thread, btw...one of the better int'l political discussions we've had on here in a while.

in the end, I think it boils down to Russia being disproportionally aggressive and Georgia being insanely foolish. They should have known, even with U.S. help that they wouldn't be able to hold on to Ossetia if Russia really wanted it.

I can't fault what they did, moving into Tskhinvali, given that it was part of their terriorty, but they should have known that the presence of Russian "peacekeepers" in the city...if one of them so much as stubbed a toe getting walking out the door to look at the Georgians, would be used as a pretext for Russia "coming to the aid" of it's ethnic brothers horribly oppressed in Ossetia.
eventually culminating in airstrikes on Georgian civillian centers and Russian troops in Georgia.

There can't be a single military commander in Georgia who believed that the Georgian military plus a whole 120 American advisors would hold off the sizeable Russian forces that have been building up in reigon for years.

At best Georgia can kiss Ossetia goodbye and hope for some kind of reperations or lease on the pipeline. Russia will likely end up with South Ossetia, which probably should have been the original state of things, given the feelings of the people living in Ossetia largely being ethnic Russians wanting to reunite with North Ossetia.

edit to add: I don't see any good coming of American involvement, militarily, in Georgia. We can't commit the necessery resources to make any impact, and all it would do is escalate the situation. it's going to have to be handled diplomatically and probably at a net loss.
Georgia deserves to maintain its autonomy, but being realistic...it's probably going to lose Ossetia entirely.
BUT if Georgia wants to join NATO, they damn well have the right to do so.

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 12, 2008 12:00 PM

BP Closes Oil and Gas pipelines in Georgia.

The BTC pipeline was closed last week as a precautionary measure, though there are reports that Russia bombed part of the pipeline in Georgia. Another smaller pipeline was just closed, as well as another pipeline that transports gas.

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 12, 2008 12:16 PM

Russia agrees to ceasefire terms. No word on whether they're actually going to follow through on it or keep fighting and blame Georgia for breaking it.

%u201CI think these are good principles to settle the problem, to end this dramatic situation,%u201D [Russian President] Medvedev said at a news conference with President Nicolas Sarkozy of France. %u201CIt is up to Georgia now.%u201D

Chainlink

Key West, FL

August 2005

AUG 12, 2008 12:54 PM

Presidential hopezilla John McCain says all Americans back Georgia in struggle. I'm not sure what poll told him that, but that's what he says.

McCain told more than 2,000 voters in York, Pa., that he spoke Tuesday morning with Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili to make sure he knows "that the thoughts, prayers and support of the American people are with that great little nation as it struggles today" for independence.

"I told him that I know I speak for every American when I said to him, today, we are all Georgians," McCain said to loud applause. He said Saakashvili asked him to express his thanks to Americans.

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA

March 2004

AUG 12, 2008 01:43 PM

i don't think i want to be a Georgian or a Russian, right now. though being a Russian is probably safer.

Coyotemike

USA

May 2006

AUG 12, 2008 05:41 PM

bean said:
Russia agrees to ceasefire terms. No word on whether they're actually going to follow through on it or keep fighting and blame Georgia for breaking it.

"I think these are good principles to settle the problem, to end this dramatic situation," [Russian President] Medvedev said at a news conference with President Nicolas Sarkozy of France. "It is up to Georgia now."

Not sure if this is an update or just a different version

Declaring "the aggressor has been punished," the Kremlin ordered a halt Tuesday to Russia's devastating assault on Georgia %u2014 five days of air and ground attacks that left homes in smoldering ruins and uprooted 100,000 people.