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Russian and Georgian Forces Clash in Ossetia

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"Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory," Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili announced today.

Reuters reported today that the Russian military has entered into territory claimed by the Republic of Georgia - what is currently a breakaway region known as South Ossetia. Russian tanks are currently clashing with Georgian forces in South Ossetia and the Russian airforce is striking targets in Georgia proper.

Russia's decision to use force stemmed most immediately from Georgia's attack on the Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali yesterday. Conflict over spy drones, mutual sniper attacks, and artillery shelling has marred Russian-Georgian relations in the preceding weeks and months.

Russia claims that Georgia is to blame for the fighting:

Saakashvili rejected Russian assertions that the fighting was sparked by events in South Ossetia, where Moscow accuses Georgian forces of aggressive action against Russian peacekeepers and others.


Meanwhile, the Georgian president accuses Russian forces of intentionally targeting civilians and dismisses the Russian claims.

For those not familiar with politics of the south Caucasus, Georgia is an independent nation that borders Russia, Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Armenia. The nation is known for its excellent wines (like kindzmarauli and kvanchkara), spicy cuisine, and being the birthplace of Iosif Dzhugashvili - better known as Stalin. The landscape of Georgia is beautiful and it is home to four UNESCO cultural heritage sites. The population of Georgia is overwhelmingly Eastern Orthodox and has been Christian since Roman times. It is also the home to 12 different living languages (plus Russian and Armenian) and at least 18 distinct ethnic groups.

Russian-Georgian relations date back to the early 1860s, when King Herekle asked for Russian aid (as a fellow Orthodox nation) to secure their independence against both the Ottoman Turks and the Qajar Persians who competed for dominance of the Caucasus. Russia, under Catherine the Great, repeatedly failed to honor military obligations to Herekle but due to court intrigue, the aging monarch feared for the survival of his dynasty. Consequently, he signed the Treaty of Georgievsk in 1873, making Russia the protector of the eastern half of modern Georgia. Under Paul I, Russia formally annexed eastern Georgia in 1801 and conquered the rest within 10 years. The nation remained part of the Russian empire and the Soviet Union (with the exception of a brief independence following the collapse of the Romanov dynasty) until 1991, when Georgia declared its independence.

Things were not rosy* for post-independence Georgia, however, as even the former Soviet dissident and human rights activist Zviad Gamsakhurdia ruled in an authoritarian manner (even accusing his enemies of "sabotage" and treason). After his ouster by a violent coup, the opposition forces appointed Eduard Shevardnadze as president of the nation. His rule was likewise characterized by corruption and nepotism, leading to his peaceful ouster in the Rose Revolution of 2003. Russian Foreign Minister Ivanov negotiated the resignation of Gamsakhurdia in a summit meeting with the Georgian president and the opposition (including pro-Western and American-educated current president Mikheil Saakashvili).

While political representation has taken a turn for the better in the past five years in Georgia, the country is plagued with problems. Almost half of the population lives beneath the poverty line. Corruption and crime are rampant. More importantly - two regions of Georgia broke away after the 1991 independence: South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Following Saakashvili's campaign promises to clamp down on separatism, the leader of the autonomous region of Adjara also threatened to secede, leading to another crisis. While Georgia resolved the Adjara crisis peacefully, it was defeated militarily in its campaigns in both South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Georgia cannot exert military control over either region, largely due to Russian support of the separatists. Both of these conflicts led to slaughter of innocent civilians by all sides and ended in ethnic cleansing of the Georgian population in the breakaway regions.

South Ossetia continues to be a problem for Russian-Georgian relations. The UN, EU, and NATO refuse to recognize South Ossetia as an independent nation, while Russia extends visas to the population. Georgia hopes to suppress the Ossetian de facto independence and Saakashvili is under pressure from the public to do so. Meanwhile, Russia backs South Ossetia as a means of exerting power over Georgia and countering American influence in the region.

America, in fact, is deeply involved in the Russian-Georgian conflict at least in the eyes of the two players. Following George W. Bush's visit to Tbilisi in 2005, the Georgians renamed the street by their airport to "George W. Bush avenue." As a Reuters article notes, the United States has 120 soldiers in Georgia. President Saakashvili asserts that the influence of the US is even deeper, though. According to him, the latest Russian-Georgian conflict:

... is not about Georgia anymore. It's about America, its values.


He continued to say:

They made no secret. The are unhappy with our closeness with the United States, with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, with the West in general.


Meanwhile, the NY Times reports that:

Georgia is also valuable to Washington because it is an ally in the Iraq war. With 2,000 troops in Iraq, it is the third-largest contributor of troops there, after the United States and Britain.


The United States will have difficulty remaining uninvolved, especially given Georgia's immediate decision to pull these troops out of Iraq.

US Presidential candidate John McCain has called on Russia to withdraw from Georgia and asks for an emergency UN Security Council meeting (Note: one already took place 12 hours before he called for it). Some bloggers are already claiming that this event will increase McCain's rating in polls because of his hawkish stance.

*Yeah, that's a pun on Georgia's Rose Revolution...

 

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OneWithAll

OneWithAll

Charlton City, MA
October 2005

AUG 11, 2008 12:16 PM

Chainlink said:

Great article Mr.Bstrd. Very informative.

Thanks



plus 1, very informative indeed

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 11, 2008 12:38 PM

Russia captures towns in Georgia proper

The reported capture of the key Georgian city of Gori and the towns of Senaki, Zugdidi and Kurga came despite a top Russian general's claim earlier Monday that Russia had no plans to enter Georgian territory. By taking Gori, which sits on Georgia's only east-west highway, Russia can cut off eastern Georgia from the country's western Black Sea coast.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

AUG 11, 2008 12:42 PM

i think it's a bit silly to say that the US's invasion of Iraq is being viewed by Russia as a signal that it's okay to invade whoever you feel like invading. Bush is a fucker all on his own; trying to blame him for things completely unrelated to anything he's done only serves to cloud the real issues.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 11, 2008 12:51 PM

motorfirebox said:
i think it's a bit silly to say that the US's invasion of Iraq is being viewed by Russia as a signal that it's okay to invade whoever you feel like invading. Bush is a fucker all on his own; trying to blame him for things completely unrelated to anything he's done only serves to cloud the real issues.


Yeah. It may be a factor in their thinking, but I doubt it's a significant one, and I think it's unrealistic to think that it's directly responsible for any of this.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

AUG 11, 2008 01:27 PM

Ascanius said:

Colinism said:

BlastProcessing said:

stockula said:

SockPuppet said:
Of course, part of the reason that Russia is prepared to risk this is that the USA (and its poodle) has made aggressive war on a sovereign nation, and lied about it to everyone.
What a surprise that other countries now feel they can do the same thing.



History began with Bush for you, didn't it?



Yeah, nations never take recent precedents into account when acting aggressively.



The Iraq war was not a recent precedent if your trying to imply that the Russians would never have gone in without Iraq having happened first. They have been trying to get their old republics back under their control for years now there is nothing shocking about what is happening now.



You're proving SockPuppet's point. They've been trying to "get their old republics back" for years but have never done much more than some heavy duty chest pounding. Now, after we invade Iraq under false pretenses they invade Georgia under false pretenses, and you don't think that's significant?



Chechnya was more than heavy chest pounding.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

AUG 11, 2008 01:37 PM

Colinism said:

Ascanius said:

Colinism said:

BlastProcessing said:

stockula said:

SockPuppet said:
Of course, part of the reason that Russia is prepared to risk this is that the USA (and its poodle) has made aggressive war on a sovereign nation, and lied about it to everyone.
What a surprise that other countries now feel they can do the same thing.



History began with Bush for you, didn't it?



Yeah, nations never take recent precedents into account when acting aggressively.



The Iraq war was not a recent precedent if your trying to imply that the Russians would never have gone in without Iraq having happened first. They have been trying to get their old republics back under their control for years now there is nothing shocking about what is happening now.



You're proving SockPuppet's point. They've been trying to "get their old republics back" for years but have never done much more than some heavy duty chest pounding. Now, after we invade Iraq under false pretenses they invade Georgia under false pretenses, and you don't think that's significant?



Chechnya was more than heavy chest pounding.


wow, i missed that exchange. yeah, Colinism is right--Chechnya, Dagestan, and Chechnya again. this is not some sort of new, aberrant behavior on the part of Russia--this is what they do.

OneWithAll

OneWithAll

Charlton City, MA
October 2005
Ascanius

Ascanius

USA
October 2006

AUG 11, 2008 03:28 PM

Colinism said:
Chechnya was more than heavy chest pounding.



Chechnya is not a sovereign nation.

DannyDMc

DannyDMc

Fargo, ND
July 2003

AUG 11, 2008 03:48 PM

Ascanius said:

Colinism said:
Chechnya was more than heavy chest pounding.



Chechnya is not a sovereign nation.



The Chechnyans might disagree with that statement

Ascanius

Ascanius

USA
October 2006

AUG 11, 2008 03:52 PM

DannyDMc said:

Ascanius said:

Colinism said:
Chechnya was more than heavy chest pounding.



Chechnya is not a sovereign nation.



The Chechnyans might disagree with that statement



Doesn't make it geopolitically incorrect.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

AUG 11, 2008 03:55 PM

stockula said:

SockPuppet said:
Of course, part of the reason that Russia is prepared to risk this is that the USA (and its poodle) has made aggressive war on a sovereign nation, and lied about it to everyone.
What a surprise that other countries now feel they can do the same thing.



History began with Bush for you, didn't it?



Oh no. I go back at least as far as the Suez Crisis. And the Hungarian uprising, the same year, where the USSR got what amounted to a free pass because the British, French and Israelis were trying to shut the Egyptians down.

I remember the Tonkin Gulf, as well. Did that work for you? Federal taxes to pay for it, right?

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

AUG 11, 2008 03:59 PM

Ascanius said:

DannyDMc said:

Ascanius said:

Colinism said:
Chechnya was more than heavy chest pounding.



Chechnya is not a sovereign nation.



The Chechnyans might disagree with that statement



Doesn't make it geopolitically incorrect.


are you aware of why Chechnya is not a sovereign nation?

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

AUG 11, 2008 04:04 PM

Ascanius said:

DannyDMc said:

Ascanius said:

Colinism said:
Chechnya was more than heavy chest pounding.



Chechnya is not a sovereign nation.



The Chechnyans might disagree with that statement



Doesn't make it geopolitically incorrect.



Keep digging.

Ascanius

Ascanius

USA
October 2006

AUG 11, 2008 04:06 PM

motorfirebox said:

Ascanius said:

DannyDMc said:

Ascanius said:

Colinism said:
Chechnya was more than heavy chest pounding.



Chechnya is not a sovereign nation.



The Chechnyans might disagree with that statement



Doesn't make it geopolitically incorrect.


are you aware of why Chechnya is not a sovereign nation?



Yes, but do you see the difference, diplomatically, in preventing Chechnya from breaking away, and invading a country that has been independent for 17 years and is a member of the UN, the WTO, and an active candidate for membership in NATO?

Ascanius

Ascanius

USA
October 2006

AUG 11, 2008 04:11 PM

What Russia is doing in Georgia right now is an extension of an existing policy. I'll concede that. It is also an escalation of that policy in a way that hasn't been done since the fall of the Soviet Union. I think the political precedent we set when we invaded Iraq might have helped embolden Russia to the point that such a move made sense. Maybe not, but I certainly can't rule out the possibility.

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