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The Green Clown Party

TUESDAY JULY 15 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By FearTheReaper.

TAGS: Cynthia McKinney, Ralph Nader, Green Party

The Green Party had a nice little run, but they have clearly turned into the joke they were always destined to be. The Green Party began in 1991 and was based on the Germany Green Party. The Greens stand for “environmentalism, non-hierarchical participatory democracy, social justice, respect for diversity, peace and nonviolence.” Oh, and they nominate clowns to be president.

In 1995, the Green Party decided to make a run for the presidency. Many Greens were opposed, wanting instead to go after local offices and slowly build from the bottom up. Naturally, they went after Ralph Nader to be their candidate. Who wouldn’t want a cranky, old man to run the country? Nader accepted the nomination and then placed a $5,000 campaign-spending limit, in order to avoid filing a financial statement with the FEC. After buying pencils, they were pretty much out of money. Nader made it onto 22 state ballots and pulled in a whopping 685,297 votes, or 0.7% of all votes cast. The only way was up. Seriously, they probably couldn’t do worse.

The Green Party continued to grow and focus on local races around the country. Then 2000 rolled around and it was time to get the Nader monster moving again. The timing was perfect for a 3rd party, because of the ugly partisanship that was happening in Washington. Bush actually ran as the candidate of “change.” In the end, according to popular belief, Nader won just enough votes to keep Gore out of the White House. People forget that Gore actually lost a debate or two to Bush and was as stiff and exciting as a door. He also ran an atrocious campaign and probably deserved to lose. Oh, and Bush stole the election.

Regardless of all that, Nader was blamed for the loss. Members of the Green Party were blamed for a complete idiot taking over the presidency and they have been on the defensive ever since. As the 2004 elections began to heat up, Democrats put a lot of pressure on the Green Party and Ralph Nader not to run. The Green Party split into different factions, each with their own idea of how to proceed. Some wanted to not run at all, some wanted to avoid swing states and others wanted to go for it. In the end, they went for it.

This is where it gets awesome. Ralph Nader decided to run as an Independent. So, the Greens nominated attorney David Cobb as their candidate. Then Ralph decided he wanted the endorsement of the Green Party. Got that? He didn’t want the nomination, only the endorsement of a party that already had a candidate. And many of them went for it. Several high up Green Party members went to work for Nader.

In the end, Cobb was on the ballot in 28 states, while Nader was on the ballot in 35 states. Nader received 465,650 votes, while Cobb reeled in a massive 119,859 votes. The total was 2.3 million less than in 2000. Who would have thought after the 2000 election and with a tiny party split in two that they would only pull down 600,000 votes?

Now, it’s 2008 and the Green Party has decided to go from cranky old man to bat shit crazy lady. Nader declared early on that he would decline the Green Party nomination. I guess that’s why he won the California and Massachusetts Green Parties. Why would you want to stop the cranky old "I don't want it" man magic? So, the Green Party looked elsewhere. Instead of choosing one of their own, a member with not as much visibility, but someone who adheres to their policies and has worked within the party for years, they went with a former Democratic nutjob, Cynthia McKinney. I honestly don’t know if they could have found a worse candidate. It’s spectacular ineptitude. The woman is a train wreck. She was basically driven from her party with pitchforks and didn't leave behind many friends. She has a knack for saying the very worst thing possible.

During the 2000 presidential race, Cynthia let this gem slip:


Al Gore's Negro tolerance level has never been too high. I've never known him to have more than one black person around him at any given time.


Gore was obviously upset, mostly because his campaign manager, Donna Brazile, was black.

In 2002, Cynthia went a little too far on a Berkeley radio station and kinda alluded that the Bush administration took down the twin towers.


We know there were numerous warnings of the events to come on September 11th. . . . What did this administration know and when did it know it, about the events of September 11th? Who else knew, and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered? . . . What do they have to hide?


She makes a good point. Why didn't Bush warn all those people in the World Trade Center before he had it blown up? (Citation needed) And…


She suggested that the administration was serving the interests of a Washington-based investment firm, the Carlyle Group, which employs a number of high-ranking former government officials from both parties.


Yay! The Carlyle Group! I love it! Get your conspiracy hat on!

Her fellow Democrats obviously scurried away like rats. McKinney was defeated in a 2002 Democratic primary by Denise Majette. Naturally, it was the Jews fault – at least according to her dear old Dad.


The reporter had asked Billy McKinney about his daughter's use of a years old, moth-balled endorsement from former Atlanta mayor Andrew Young. Such endorsements were worthless, the elder McKinney replied, because "Jews have bought everybody. Jews." In case the reporter didn't understand, he spelled the word: "J-E-W-S."


Could you spell that again please, this is radio after all. She obviously comes from quality stock.

In 2004, Cynthia won back her seat. During that term she was best known for punching a cop.


Police say McKinney struck a Capitol Police officer last week when the officer did not recognize her as a member of Congress and tried to stop her from entering a House office building when she did not present identification.


Lawmakers wear a pin that identifies them to police. Cynthia didn’t like wearing hers, for whatever reason. So, when the cop attempted to stop her, she took a swing. That is how lawmakers do things. Now, wait, I'm thinking of Bartertown. Of course, Cynthia claimed she was being “racially profiled.”

The Capitol police chief saw it differently.


Any time an officer does not know who the person is coming in the building, I direct them to stop that person. And even if you're stopped, you're not supposed to hit a police officer. It's very simple. Even the high and the haughty should be able to stop and say, 'I'm a congressman,' and then everybody moves on.


No shit. Who would have thought? Sign that lady up for president! I would pay an enormous amount of money to get Cynthia into the presidential debates. She is a true liberal, but also a complete fucking nutter.

And as a bonus, if she is elected, then dies in office, we'll have our first Hip Hop President! Oh, yeah! McKinney picked her VP this weekend and it was none other than Rosa Alicia Clemente, community organizer, journalist and Hip-Hop activist. I understand she has mad skillz.

This should be the end of the Green Party. They have gone from being a party with an interesting philosophy to seeking out any clown with a name. And Cynthia McKinney is one hell of a clown.

FearTheReaper is a writer, actor and comedian. He also writes a blog, called Stop All Monsters.

 

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abbazappa

abbazappa

Los Osos, CA
June 2006

JUL 15, 2008 09:01 PM

Tiwaz said:

abbazappa said:
Use some critical thinking.

This type of bullshit is not needed.


And "Damn abbazappa, you're the man!" is needed?

A write in candidate has to pick his/her Electoral College voters and register them for the off chance he/she wins the state.

Is this true? My understanding is that there are Electoral College Electors who are elected/assigned by the state. Based on the results of the direct vote they get to make their decision as to who they will support (they don't have to support who was popularly supported if that's their decision). I've never heard that each candidate chooses their electors. Is this a CA thing? A US thing? If so, I'm going to feel extremely stupid, but as always I'm fully willing to admit when I'm wrong.

Actually it is the state party that decides. Republicans have their list and Democrats have theirs. Write in candidates get to make their own since they are not a party which is why they have to fill out the paper work.

With out doing that then the person would get zero electoral votes. So they wouldn't even bother counting write in votes unless some one registered their Electoral College voters.

See Above.
Yup, if a person gets written in and never filled out the paper work for their electoral voters they wont get counted due to the fact there is so many people with the same first and last name.

When you vote for the presidential candidate you are not voting for the candidate.

Really?
Nope, you are voting for the Electoral voters not the Candidate. It is then that Candidates electoral voters that will vote for that candidate if they win the election. Those voters are not required to vote for that candidate though but it is rare for an Electoral College voter to switch since they are die hard party loyalists but some due talk about it for media attention. That is also why there is no National Election it is all State elections that happen on the same day.

I only provided that, since some one brought up write in candidate for an option. Then I said they have to register (and they do, they register their Electoral College voters), the link I first provided was lacking so I got the official rules. So tell me where I am wrong?

And like I said, it's really a moot point in the context of why it was brought up/this thread. Nevertheless, I don't blame you for that--obviously. You were just responding to a claim that your source was not authoritative.
No problem, my first source wasn't the best and Shiny_Metal_Ass wanted it sourced since he never heard of that.


I'm still interested to learn where our misunderstanding is coming from. Is my understanding of ECE incorrect? Is is just incorrect in regards to California? Or what? These things are kinda important.


Electoral College confuses most people since it is a bit tricky but is a needed system. If we just elected on popular vote it would be majority tyranny and candidates would only go to urban and metro areas.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

JUL 15, 2008 09:12 PM

abbazappa said:
...stuff...

Sorry, I'm going to have to just respond according to reactions seeing as to the quotations are already fucked up.

1) Thanks for the clarification. I "knew" that that parties choose their electors, but what is confusing is the controversy over the electoral college (given that this is actually the case). If the electors are chosen by the party, then why would any of them ever elect someone from the opposite party? Isn't that a big criticism of the EC system? That the electors could actually elect someone not chosen by the party? Anyway, my memory agrees with your assertion, however, there seems to be a disconnect here and I'm hoping someone can clarify it. It also explains my confusing in response to your citation.

2) The "Damn abbazappa" comment was more of a playful digg at Rude Ruca than you. I realize that may not be apparent and I apologize. I'm sorry, but it wasn't meant to be malicious and really wasn't directed at you.

3) The response to your comment "when you vote...you're not really voting" was sarcasm. Just so we're clear. I'm not that ignorant.

Anyway, thanks for the polite response.

rsabatino

rsabatino

Belvidere, NJ
October 2007

JUL 16, 2008 05:05 AM

my main thought was sent to fear the reaper i unstand this is political parody but guy hates everybody. he does not like conservatives, republicans, librals,or democrates he hates everybody.

Jace

Jace

Reno, NV
February 2004

JUL 16, 2008 08:40 AM

Tiwaz said:

Jace said:
You can't say "give me back my 'fucking grammar police' pin, it's mine!" That would be wrong.

No, that would be right. It's mine, It is mine. That is correct.


Hah. I was being a dick and I messed up. That's what I get.

alaric

alaric

I'm lost
June 2005

JUL 16, 2008 08:59 AM

As a previous poster said, FTR was definitely on the obamabot cruise. He may have relinquished his duties as the Julie McCoy of that love boat but he is definitely still on the boat.

The obama campaign has launched a smear campaign against McKinney and FTR is parroting it, definitely still has a case of obama-lama fever.

The obama campaign proclaimed they don't need florida or ohio to win the GE (true) and part of that strategy is the assumption that obama will pick up Georgia.

McKinney, an African American woman from Georgia is a threat to that. Thus, Obama operatives are pumping out old right wing crap about her, just like they did to clinton.

And just as FTR regurgitated the Obama's attacks Clinton so too is he repeatedly the attacks on McKinney.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

JUL 16, 2008 09:37 AM

Tiwaz said:
Does anyone pay attention?



I try to . . . OOH! A shiny penny!

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

JUL 16, 2008 02:47 PM

coyotemike said:

Tiwaz said:
Does anyone pay attention?



I try to . . . OOH! A shiny penny!

biggrin

Syntropia

Syntropia

Oakland, CA
February 2004

JUL 31, 2008 07:20 PM

F.T.R. for pres. 08'!

... oh shit, fetch your sawn off zombie slayer, this is going to get ugly!

ARRR!!!

Sick

Sick

Minneapolis, MN
June 2003

JUL 31, 2008 07:39 PM

Tiwaz said:
If the electors are chosen by the party, then why would any of them ever elect someone from the opposite party? Isn't that a big criticism of the EC system? That the electors could actually elect someone not chosen by the party?



It's theoretically possible for the electors to elect someone not chosen by the party. However, in practice, faithless electors are exceedingly rare; as stated, electors are chosen by the party, and they're typically the members of the party with reputations for being very loyal, so they don't generally cast votes for the opposite party.

A faithless elector last occurred in Minnesota, I'm ashamed to say. In 2004; it was most likely an accident, as it was a presidential ballot for "John Ewards." We've now passed legislation that allows us to invalidate a vote for anyone other than whoever was supposed to get it.

It's even rarer for an entire group of electors to cast a ballot other than the one they pledged.

Essentially, faithless electors affecting the outcome of an election is extremely unlikely.

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