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The Green Clown Party

TUESDAY JULY 15 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By FearTheReaper.

TAGS: Cynthia McKinney, Ralph Nader, Green Party

The Green Party had a nice little run, but they have clearly turned into the joke they were always destined to be. The Green Party began in 1991 and was based on the Germany Green Party. The Greens stand for “environmentalism, non-hierarchical participatory democracy, social justice, respect for diversity, peace and nonviolence.” Oh, and they nominate clowns to be president.

In 1995, the Green Party decided to make a run for the presidency. Many Greens were opposed, wanting instead to go after local offices and slowly build from the bottom up. Naturally, they went after Ralph Nader to be their candidate. Who wouldn’t want a cranky, old man to run the country? Nader accepted the nomination and then placed a $5,000 campaign-spending limit, in order to avoid filing a financial statement with the FEC. After buying pencils, they were pretty much out of money. Nader made it onto 22 state ballots and pulled in a whopping 685,297 votes, or 0.7% of all votes cast. The only way was up. Seriously, they probably couldn’t do worse.

The Green Party continued to grow and focus on local races around the country. Then 2000 rolled around and it was time to get the Nader monster moving again. The timing was perfect for a 3rd party, because of the ugly partisanship that was happening in Washington. Bush actually ran as the candidate of “change.” In the end, according to popular belief, Nader won just enough votes to keep Gore out of the White House. People forget that Gore actually lost a debate or two to Bush and was as stiff and exciting as a door. He also ran an atrocious campaign and probably deserved to lose. Oh, and Bush stole the election.

Regardless of all that, Nader was blamed for the loss. Members of the Green Party were blamed for a complete idiot taking over the presidency and they have been on the defensive ever since. As the 2004 elections began to heat up, Democrats put a lot of pressure on the Green Party and Ralph Nader not to run. The Green Party split into different factions, each with their own idea of how to proceed. Some wanted to not run at all, some wanted to avoid swing states and others wanted to go for it. In the end, they went for it.

This is where it gets awesome. Ralph Nader decided to run as an Independent. So, the Greens nominated attorney David Cobb as their candidate. Then Ralph decided he wanted the endorsement of the Green Party. Got that? He didn’t want the nomination, only the endorsement of a party that already had a candidate. And many of them went for it. Several high up Green Party members went to work for Nader.

In the end, Cobb was on the ballot in 28 states, while Nader was on the ballot in 35 states. Nader received 465,650 votes, while Cobb reeled in a massive 119,859 votes. The total was 2.3 million less than in 2000. Who would have thought after the 2000 election and with a tiny party split in two that they would only pull down 600,000 votes?

Now, it’s 2008 and the Green Party has decided to go from cranky old man to bat shit crazy lady. Nader declared early on that he would decline the Green Party nomination. I guess that’s why he won the California and Massachusetts Green Parties. Why would you want to stop the cranky old "I don't want it" man magic? So, the Green Party looked elsewhere. Instead of choosing one of their own, a member with not as much visibility, but someone who adheres to their policies and has worked within the party for years, they went with a former Democratic nutjob, Cynthia McKinney. I honestly don’t know if they could have found a worse candidate. It’s spectacular ineptitude. The woman is a train wreck. She was basically driven from her party with pitchforks and didn't leave behind many friends. She has a knack for saying the very worst thing possible.

During the 2000 presidential race, Cynthia let this gem slip:


Al Gore's Negro tolerance level has never been too high. I've never known him to have more than one black person around him at any given time.


Gore was obviously upset, mostly because his campaign manager, Donna Brazile, was black.

In 2002, Cynthia went a little too far on a Berkeley radio station and kinda alluded that the Bush administration took down the twin towers.


We know there were numerous warnings of the events to come on September 11th. . . . What did this administration know and when did it know it, about the events of September 11th? Who else knew, and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered? . . . What do they have to hide?


She makes a good point. Why didn't Bush warn all those people in the World Trade Center before he had it blown up? (Citation needed) And…


She suggested that the administration was serving the interests of a Washington-based investment firm, the Carlyle Group, which employs a number of high-ranking former government officials from both parties.


Yay! The Carlyle Group! I love it! Get your conspiracy hat on!

Her fellow Democrats obviously scurried away like rats. McKinney was defeated in a 2002 Democratic primary by Denise Majette. Naturally, it was the Jews fault – at least according to her dear old Dad.


The reporter had asked Billy McKinney about his daughter's use of a years old, moth-balled endorsement from former Atlanta mayor Andrew Young. Such endorsements were worthless, the elder McKinney replied, because "Jews have bought everybody. Jews." In case the reporter didn't understand, he spelled the word: "J-E-W-S."


Could you spell that again please, this is radio after all. She obviously comes from quality stock.

In 2004, Cynthia won back her seat. During that term she was best known for punching a cop.


Police say McKinney struck a Capitol Police officer last week when the officer did not recognize her as a member of Congress and tried to stop her from entering a House office building when she did not present identification.


Lawmakers wear a pin that identifies them to police. Cynthia didn’t like wearing hers, for whatever reason. So, when the cop attempted to stop her, she took a swing. That is how lawmakers do things. Now, wait, I'm thinking of Bartertown. Of course, Cynthia claimed she was being “racially profiled.”

The Capitol police chief saw it differently.


Any time an officer does not know who the person is coming in the building, I direct them to stop that person. And even if you're stopped, you're not supposed to hit a police officer. It's very simple. Even the high and the haughty should be able to stop and say, 'I'm a congressman,' and then everybody moves on.


No shit. Who would have thought? Sign that lady up for president! I would pay an enormous amount of money to get Cynthia into the presidential debates. She is a true liberal, but also a complete fucking nutter.

And as a bonus, if she is elected, then dies in office, we'll have our first Hip Hop President! Oh, yeah! McKinney picked her VP this weekend and it was none other than Rosa Alicia Clemente, community organizer, journalist and Hip-Hop activist. I understand she has mad skillz.

This should be the end of the Green Party. They have gone from being a party with an interesting philosophy to seeking out any clown with a name. And Cynthia McKinney is one hell of a clown.

FearTheReaper is a writer, actor and comedian. He also writes a blog, called Stop All Monsters.

 

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ericwine

ericwine

Charlotte Hall, MD
January 2007

JUL 15, 2008 06:38 PM

I was going to post that link, but didn't get around to finding it. FTR did vote for Obama in the California primary (and wrote about some attempts to keep Obama votes from counting), but that may have been a "least evil" thing. I think he did a "Fuck..." column about most of the candidates except some of the early dropouts. He's pretty adamant about being an independent.
And I stick with the Orioles.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

JUL 15, 2008 06:46 PM

ericwine said:
FTR did vote for Obama in the California primary (and wrote about some attempts to keep Obama votes from counting)....

That's right. I forgot about that. But I do actually know now for sure that it wasn't going to be Obama, but oh well.

Rude_Ruca said:
Also, yeah, he calls him an asshole a few times in that thread, but I still think his attempts at going for Obama's gullet, per say, have been weak in comparison to the others...

Just to be clear. Saying I hate him, and only kinda hate him, doesn't mean you still don't hate them. You just hate them a little less, but the emotion is clear.

abbazappa

abbazappa

Los Osos, CA
June 2006

JUL 15, 2008 07:52 PM

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

abbazappa said:

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

abbazappa said:

ericwine said:

Rude_Ruca said:
Ok, FTR, so if I understand all that you have been saying over the last couple of weeks, basically, you are not voting for Obama, you think the green party is a three ring circus show and have consistently attached "-tard" to anyone who even remotely agrees with Ron Paul. Gasps!!! Does this mean you are actually going to vote for.... McCain? I mean, because you wouldn't NOT exercise your right to vote, correct? confused whatever




There is such a thing as a write-in vote. They do have that option in Cali, don't they, FTR?


Yes, but the person who wants to be written in has to fill out paper work that they are a write in candidate or else the votes are not counted.



Um...got a link for that, because that's completely the opposite of what I've been taught.


Here is the best I could do in a few min. befor I have to go to work.


Write-in candidates rarely win, and votes are often cast for ineligible people or fictional characters. Many jurisdictions require write-in candidates to be registered as candidates before the election. This is usually mandatory in elections with large pools of potential office-holders, as there may be multiple people with the name that is written in.



Ok, you work on that later.

Wikipedia <> credible source. For anything.


trythis it is the official rules for the state of California.

Rude_Ruca

Rude_Ruca

I'm lost
December 2004

JUL 15, 2008 08:04 PM

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

abbazappa said:

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

abbazappa said:

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

abbazappa said:

ericwine said:
Rude_Ruca said:
Ok, FTR, so if I understand all that you have been saying over the last couple of weeks, basically, you are not voting for Obama, you think the green party is a three ring circus show and have consistently attached "-tard" to anyone who even remotely agrees with Ron Paul. Gasps!!! Does this mean you are actually going to vote for.... McCain? I mean, because you wouldn't NOT exercise your right to vote, correct? confused whatever




There is such a thing as a write-in vote. They do have that option in Cali, don't they, FTR?


Yes, but the person who wants to be written in has to fill out paper work that they are a write in candidate or else the votes are not counted.



Um...got a link for that, because that's completely the opposite of what I've been taught.


Here is the best I could do in a few min. befor I have to go to work.


Write-in candidates rarely win, and votes are often cast for ineligible people or fictional characters. Many jurisdictions require write-in candidates to be registered as candidates before the election. This is usually mandatory in elections with large pools of potential office-holders, as there may be multiple people with the name that is written in.



Ok, you work on that later.

Wikipedia <> credible source. For anything.


abbazappa said: try this it is the official rules for the state of California.



Well, abbazappa, you are once again correct. Thank you for posting this link.

wink

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

JUL 15, 2008 08:15 PM

Rude_Ruca said:

abbazappa said:
this it is the official rules for the state of California.



Well, abbazappa, you are once again correct. Thank you for posting this link.

wink

That discusses the electors of California not that actual candidate, so whoever said that candidates must "sign up" are either A) full of shit or B) still not proven to be correct. Besides, it's a moot point. The comment was made in response to FTR's perceived flip-flopping which has proven to be a baseless claim.

Damn abbazappa, you're the man!

rsabatino

rsabatino

Belvidere, NJ
October 2007

JUL 15, 2008 08:18 PM

you must hate everybody right?

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

JUL 15, 2008 08:21 PM

rsabatino said:
you must hate everybody right?

Because there was not quotation associated with your comment, I must ask, are you speaking to me?

Rude_Ruca

Rude_Ruca

I'm lost
December 2004

JUL 15, 2008 08:22 PM

Tiwaz said:

Rude_Ruca said:

abbazappa said:
this it is the official rules for the state of California.



Well, abbazappa, you are once again correct. Thank you for posting this link. wink



That discusses the electors of California not that actual candidate, so whoever said that candidates must "sign up" are either A) full of shit or B) still not proven to be correct. Besides, it's a moot point. The comment was made in response to FTR's perceived flip-flopping which has proven to be a baseless claim.

Damn abbazappa, you're the man!



Aaaand... I fail, because when I first read this I thought this was addressing the point that I thought was being made, but wasn't but....OMG....I need sleep now....shit....

Rude_Ruca

Rude_Ruca

I'm lost
December 2004

JUL 15, 2008 08:23 PM

Tiwaz said:

rsabatino said:
you must hate everybody right?

Because there was not quotation associated with your comment, I must ask, are you speaking to me?



Or were you speaking to me? lol, I think? confused surreal

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

JUL 15, 2008 08:25 PM

EDIT:
N/M

abbazappa

abbazappa

Los Osos, CA
June 2006

JUL 15, 2008 08:26 PM

Tiwaz said:

Rude_Ruca said:
abbazappa said:
this it is the official rules for the state of California.



Well, abbazappa, you are once again correct. Thank you for posting this link.

wink

That discusses the electors of California not that actual candidate, so whoever said that candidates must "sign up" are either A) full of shit or B) still not proven to be correct. Besides, it's a moot point. The comment was made in response to FTR's perceived flip-flopping which has proven to be a baseless claim.

Damn abbazappa, you're the man!


Use some critical thinking. A write in candidate has to pick his/her Electoral College voters and register them for the off chance he/she wins the state. With out doing that then the person would get zero electoral votes. So they wouldn't even bother counting write in votes unless some one registered their Electoral College voters. When you vote for the presidential candidate you are not voting for the candidate. I only provided that, since some one brought up write in candidate for an option. Then I said they have to register (and they do, they register their Electoral College voters), the link I first provided was lacking so I got the official rules. So tell me where I am wrong?

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

JUL 15, 2008 08:37 PM

abbazappa said:
Use some critical thinking.

This type of bullshit is not needed.

A write in candidate has to pick his/her Electoral College voters and register them for the off chance he/she wins the state.

Is this true? My understanding is that there are Electoral College Electors who are elected/assigned by the state. Based on the results of the direct vote they get to make their decision as to who they will support (they don't have to support who was popularly supported if that's their decision). I've never heard that each candidate chooses their electors. Is this a CA thing? A US thing? If so, I'm going to feel extremely stupid, but as always I'm fully willing to admit when I'm wrong.

With out doing that then the person would get zero electoral votes. So they wouldn't even bother counting write in votes unless some one registered their Electoral College voters.

See Above.

When you vote for the presidential candidate you are not voting for the candidate.

Really?

I only provided that, since some one brought up write in candidate for an option. Then I said they have to register (and they do, they register their Electoral College voters), the link I first provided was lacking so I got the official rules. So tell me where I am wrong?

And like I said, it's really a moot point in the context of why it was brought up/this thread. Nevertheless, I don't blame you for that--obviously. You were just responding to a claim that your source was not authoritative.

I'm still interested to learn where our misunderstanding is coming from. Is my understanding of ECE incorrect? Is is just incorrect in regards to California? Or what? These things are kinda important.

alaric

alaric

I'm lost
June 2005

JUL 15, 2008 08:39 PM

Not sure that i see the logic in a serial obamabot pimp bashing the green party.

Mckinney is not the best choice but she has at least raised a voice and complained about improper relationships between defense contractors and elected officials. That a lot more than most democrats and a lot more than obama has done.

But ultimately in the world of democrats, who overwhelmingly approved the patriot act, war with iraq, seem ready to approve war with iran and continue to fund iraq, I'm not sure its the green party that needs to be attacked.

The author might want to fix the focus on those blurry eyes and actually tackle some real issues without parroting the barack campaign or the mainstream media.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

JUL 15, 2008 08:44 PM

Does anyone pay attention?

Karella_Deville

Karella_Deville

Santa Fe, NM
July 2006

JUL 15, 2008 08:48 PM

nm

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