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Get Your VP On #2

Last week, I broke down the Democratic vice presidential possibilities and this week I’m going to cross the aisle to where the demons live and break down the horrible people McCain will be choosing from. Sadly for McCain, any candidate he chooses will make him look older, unless he picks a 90-year-old.

First up, Charlie Crist, governor of Florida.

Pro:

Crist is high up on the list of McCain’s choices. He is a somewhat popular governor and served as the state Attorney General for four years. He also served in the state senate. He is a good-looking, personable man – and has an awesome fake tan. He would put Florida in the win column for McCain, which has quite a few electoral point thingies.

Con:

Gay. You read that right. Everyone seems to think he is gay. Crist is a 51-year-old bachelor who was married 30 years ago for an entire six months.

No one has ever produced any proof that Crist is gay, but a dude or two have claimed they fucked him and he apparently has a long-term partner, who is also a convicted felon. Loving sweet cock would obviously be a negative for any GOP candidate and if McCain picks Crist, it means he is in trouble. McCain should win Florida easily, if he needs Charlie’s help, it’s not going well. Hardcore right-wingers are McCain’s problem; bringing Crist on board would just drive them away further.

Haley Barbour, Governor of Mississippi.

Pro:

Barbour is considered to be a very successful governor. He was given high marks for picking up the pieces after Hurricane Katrina. Unlike Crist, conservatives really love him – and he’s well liked inside Washington – which is something McCain needs help with. Barbour used to be the head of the Republican National Committee, worked for Reagan for six years and is a former lobbyist. As I’m writing this, I’m wondering why he didn’t run for president. Oh, right…

Con:

He’s got some racism problems. Barbour has connections to the Council of Conservative Citizens, a group of serious racists. That would certainly be awkward when running against a black guy. And Barbour doesn’t come from a battleground state, which is a big problem. And finally, Obama is running against Washington politics, a term that defines Barbour.

Bobby Jindal, Governor of Louisiana.

Pro:

Conservatives love Jindal because he’s a brown guy who is also a Republican. They go ape shit over that sort of thing. Jindal is an Oxford University Rhodes scholar who has been working in various government jobs since 1994. He was elected to Congress in 2004 and became governor of Louisiana in 2007. I mentioned he’s got brown skin, right? Jindal’s parents are from India. He’s also a religious conservative’s wet dream. He’s against emergency contraceptives for rape victims, abortion (obviously), stem cell research, loves the Patriot Act, intelligent design, off-shore oil drilling and has the highest rating from the Gun Owners of America. Sounds pretty great for a Republican VP, right?

Con:

He performed an exorcism in college. Seriously.


In an essay Jindal wrote in 1994 for the New Oxford Review, a serious right-wing Catholic journal, Jindal narrated a bizarre story of a personal encounter with a demon, in which he participated in an exorcism with a group of college friends. And not only did they cast out the supernatural spirit that had possessed his friend, Jindal wrote that he believes that their ritual may well have cured her cancer.


Holy fucking shit. Look who just made Bush look normal. From this day on, every time you look at a picture of Jindal, I expect you to picture him screaming, “OUT DEMON!”

Kay Bailey Hutchison, Senator from Texas.

Pro:

Let’s be honest, Kay is only being considered because she has a vagina. Republicans are desperate to make it appear they are not a group of rich, white men. They always have been. Now that Obama is the candidate and Hillary nearly won, they really want America to know they have ladies and minorities also. Other than that, she brings nothing to the table.

Con:

She doesn’t come from a battleground state. She’s too old. She has zero executive experience and is an incredibly boring speaker. Also, she has been accused of corruption on more than one occasion. All of which means he will probably pick her.

Mitt Romney, rich guy.

Pro:

He is certainly well known and is a decent debater and speaker. Conservatives seem to like him, because he flip-flopped on almost every position when he decided to run for president. He has a great background as a businessman, which gives conservatives giant hard ons. And, Romney had a successful run as the governor of Massachusetts, which included implementing a state universal health insurance plan. Romney on the ticket could swing Massachusetts because Irish people are notoriously racist.

Con:

Cheesiest man alive. He seems like a central casting version of slimy politician. He flip-flopped on almost every important issue. Romney and McCain appeared to hate each other during the primaries. Oh, and he’s Mormon.

Mark Sanford, governor of South Carolina.

Pro:

He’s a hero of conservatives because of his budget cuts in South Carolina and actually fought against other Republicans to get them done. Sanford has a very solid conservative voting record and stuck to a self-imposed term limit and left Congress. In 2000, he campaigned for McCain. Sanford would fit right in with McCain’s “bloated government” philosophy.

Con:

I had never heard of him until I started researching this article. South Carolina is not a battle ground state and he won’t do much to help McCain in the mid-western battle ground states. Oh, and he lives on a plantation. He’s lived there since high school. A fucking plantation owner running against a black guy. How’s that sound? Like change? Did I mention he supports South Carolina flying the Confederate flag? AND THAT HE LIVES ON A FUCKING PLANTATION?

Mike Huckabee, crazy religious guy.

Pro:

The crazy religious right would come out in droves to vote for a ticket with Mike Huckabee on it. He’s funny, personable and a decent speaker. He is a rag to riches story that hopefully peaked when he was governor of Arkansas from 1996 to 2007.

Con:

He’s sort of living in the year 2. His religious beliefs are frighteningly backward, which would not help with Catholic voters in battleground states. If you think what Wright said is bad, as soon as Huckabee became VP, you can bet a shitload of heinous material would spring forth. That’s why Baptist ministers don’t become president. Huckabee is never going to be VP, so quit talking about it.

The Curve Ball:

Jodi Rell, governor of Connecticut,

Pro:

She has a vagina. Rell is incredibly popular in Connecticut, with approval ratings around 80%. She served 10 years in the state legislator, then three as Lieutenant Governor and finally was elected governor in 2004. She knows how to work the system. She is a breast cancer survivor and appeals to suburban voters. Oh, and she’s married to a Navy pilot. Along with the heinous Lieberman, she could possibly swing Connecticut to McCain.

Con:

Went to but never graduated from college. She is moderate Republican, which won’t help McCain with conservatives. Other than that, she’s kind of a blank slate and doesn’t bring a lot of baggage. If McCain wants to pick up some of the angry middle-aged female Hillary voters, Rell is the way to go.

That’s it. Anyone not on my list has no fucking chance. I’d put my money on Rell.

 

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Rude_Ruca

Rude_Ruca

I'm lost
December 2004

JUN 17, 2008 09:11 PM

I say Palin or Rell. That is all wink And considering the subject matter, I must say thanks for pulling this together in the most, eh hm, eloquent way that you possibly could, FTR (errr, um, not to blow rainbows up yer arse, or anything like that....yeah...).

gdarklighter

gdarklighter

San Diego, CA
August 2005

JUN 17, 2008 10:11 PM

scylis said:

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

Hooraydiation said:

scylis said:
she's kinda got that teacher or librarian look to her.





wait a minute... librarian... teacher... education-themed, both... why is that fami....

eeek

SPOILERS! (Click to view)


HOLY CRAP, SHE'S LAURA ROSLIN!



Oh man. love





zoom image

get it frakkin' right.


+1 for proper fictional swear words.
+1000000 for a way better photo of Tricia Helfer.

N8theSk8

N8theSk8

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2005

JUN 18, 2008 08:19 AM

My thoughts exactly! Sometimes FtR speaks from his asshole, which really isn't very becoming.

MrCrisp said:
nothing odd about somebody living on a plantation in south carolina. really. they're all over the place. some are used as housing developments (miller hill plantation on john's island), airports (longwood plantation, also on john's island), cemeteries (magnolia umbra plantation in charleston), etc. there's even the marrington plantation (used for recreation) on the naval weapons station where i work. no slaves there, from what i can tell.



russandjess

russandjess

Mandeville, LA
January 2007

JUN 18, 2008 09:54 AM

The Jindal thing is blowing my mind... i voted for this guy! And yes McCain would be the oldest president at 72 but Reagan was 69 and reelected at 73. so i don't see age being a real factor. i doubt McCain would get reelected but Bush did so who knows. Scary shit i say!

Gerry_D

Gerry_D

Los Angeles, CA
May 2003

JUN 19, 2008 01:13 AM

I hope it's Rudy, which would make them the ticket of "no hope"

abbazappa

abbazappa

Sacramento, CA
June 2006

JUN 19, 2008 02:56 AM

You forgot the governor of Alaska, she would be a great choice although I don't think she would take the position.

CoyoteMike

CoyoteMike

Iowa City, IA
May 2006

JUN 19, 2008 06:16 AM

abbazappa said:
You forgot the governor of Alaska, she would be a great choice although I don't think she would take the position.



Umm . . . did you miss the entire middle of this thread?

alaric

alaric

I'm lost
June 2005

JUN 19, 2008 06:38 AM

My money is on a Midwesterner for McCain's VP.

He has the south. He is not getting much of the NE or west coasts no matter who he chooses as VP. That leaves the midwest.

I think obama would be wise to do the same.

CoyoteMike

CoyoteMike

Iowa City, IA
May 2006

JUN 19, 2008 07:22 AM

alaric said:
My money is on a Midwesterner for McCain's VP.

He has the south. He is not getting much of the NE or west coasts no matter who he chooses as VP. That leaves the midwest.

I think obama would be wise to do the same.



I wouldn't count on McCain neccessarily having the south. He's estranged from Christian voters, too wild for the extreme right wing voters, and a huge number of soldier's families in the South might well be pissed at Republicans for wasting their kid's lives. (I'm just speculating here)

I don't know what will happen in the south. Could be that enough voters down there will be too pissed off to vote for McCain and will either stay home or vote 3rd party in a futile effort to vent their genteel rage.

Besides, if you've been paying attention, you will notice that the trend has changed in the past two presidents that their VP's no longer matters. Clinton won with someone who was from the same area and generation as himself, and Bush won with someone from a state that is politically very similar to his own. Voters are more interested in what a VP can bring to the table, not where they are from.

alaric

alaric

I'm lost
June 2005

JUN 19, 2008 11:33 AM

coyotemike said:

alaric said:
My money is on a Midwesterner for McCain's VP.

He has the south. He is not getting much of the NE or west coasts no matter who he chooses as VP. That leaves the midwest.

I think obama would be wise to do the same.



I wouldn't count on McCain neccessarily having the south. He's estranged from Christian voters, too wild for the extreme right wing voters, and a huge number of soldier's families in the South might well be pissed at Republicans for wasting their kid's lives. (I'm just speculating here)

I don't know what will happen in the south. Could be that enough voters down there will be too pissed off to vote for McCain and will either stay home or vote 3rd party in a futile effort to vent their genteel rage.

Besides, if you've been paying attention, you will notice that the trend has changed in the past two presidents that their VP's no longer matters. Clinton won with someone who was from the same area and generation as himself, and Bush won with someone from a state that is politically very similar to his own. Voters are more interested in what a VP can bring to the table, not where they are from.



I've yet to see any polls suggesting McCain is in danger of losing the deep south. obama's strategy of getting out the african american vote in certain southern states might work in georgia and maybe NC, maybe but I personally have seen nothing suggesting it'll work in the more traditional bible belt south. And remember McCain is running very close in traditional blue states like PA.

Its true Bush (a alleged texan) won the presidency with a guy from Montana (an insignificant state in terms of electoral vote). Except he didn't win. He lost, probably twice. Its called cheating or even a coup de etat.

Here is the bottom line though, if the VP can help you pick up votes or a state than its a good idea to choose who ever helps the most. Recent democratic VPs (edwards, lieberman) did nothing to this end and they've taken some heat for it.

I think McCain best bet is Minnesota's current governor, Tim Pawlenty. He appeals to traditional conversatives and he is from the midwest.

I also suspect the bible belt conversatives will fall in line and vote in force after a few Barrack Osamas (I mean obama...oops) and may some more "whitey" or commi bs innuedo.

CoyoteMike

CoyoteMike

Iowa City, IA
May 2006

JUN 19, 2008 12:03 PM

alaric said:

coyotemike said:

alaric said:
My money is on a Midwesterner for McCain's VP.

He has the south. He is not getting much of the NE or west coasts no matter who he chooses as VP. That leaves the midwest.

I think obama would be wise to do the same.



I wouldn't count on McCain neccessarily having the south. He's estranged from Christian voters, too wild for the extreme right wing voters, and a huge number of soldier's families in the South might well be pissed at Republicans for wasting their kid's lives. (I'm just speculating here)

I don't know what will happen in the south. Could be that enough voters down there will be too pissed off to vote for McCain and will either stay home or vote 3rd party in a futile effort to vent their genteel rage.

Besides, if you've been paying attention, you will notice that the trend has changed in the past two presidents that their VP's no longer matters. Clinton won with someone who was from the same area and generation as himself, and Bush won with someone from a state that is politically very similar to his own. Voters are more interested in what a VP can bring to the table, not where they are from.



I've yet to see any polls suggesting McCain is in danger of losing the deep south. obama's strategy of getting out the african american vote in certain southern states might work in georgia and maybe NC, maybe but I personally have seen nothing suggesting it'll work in the more traditional bible belt south. And remember McCain is running very close in traditional blue states like PA.

Its true Bush (a alleged texan) won the presidency with a guy from Montana (an insignificant state in terms of electoral vote). Except he didn't win. He lost, probably twice. Its called cheating or even a coup de etat.

Here is the bottom line though, if the VP can help you pick up votes or a state than its a good idea to choose who ever helps the most. Recent democratic VPs (edwards, lieberman) did nothing to this end and they've taken some heat for it.

I think McCain best bet is Minnesota's current governor, Tim Pawlenty. He appeals to traditional conversatives and he is from the midwest.

I also suspect the bible belt conversatives will fall in line and vote in force after a few Barrack Osamas (I mean obama...oops) and may some more "whitey" or commi bs innuedo.



So, you expect McCain to win on stupidity and racism? Maybe in the past, but not anymore. The American people are sick of it.

alaric

alaric

I'm lost
June 2005

JUN 19, 2008 12:47 PM

coyotemike said:

alaric said:

coyotemike said:

alaric said:
My money is on a Midwesterner for McCain's VP.

He has the south. He is not getting much of the NE or west coasts no matter who he chooses as VP. That leaves the midwest.

I think obama would be wise to do the same.



I wouldn't count on McCain neccessarily having the south. He's estranged from Christian voters, too wild for the extreme right wing voters, and a huge number of soldier's families in the South might well be pissed at Republicans for wasting their kid's lives. (I'm just speculating here)

I don't know what will happen in the south. Could be that enough voters down there will be too pissed off to vote for McCain and will either stay home or vote 3rd party in a futile effort to vent their genteel rage.

Besides, if you've been paying attention, you will notice that the trend has changed in the past two presidents that their VP's no longer matters. Clinton won with someone who was from the same area and generation as himself, and Bush won with someone from a state that is politically very similar to his own. Voters are more interested in what a VP can bring to the table, not where they are from.



I've yet to see any polls suggesting McCain is in danger of losing the deep south. obama's strategy of getting out the african american vote in certain southern states might work in georgia and maybe NC, maybe but I personally have seen nothing suggesting it'll work in the more traditional bible belt south. And remember McCain is running very close in traditional blue states like PA.

Its true Bush (a alleged texan) won the presidency with a guy from Montana (an insignificant state in terms of electoral vote). Except he didn't win. He lost, probably twice. Its called cheating or even a coup de etat.

Here is the bottom line though, if the VP can help you pick up votes or a state than its a good idea to choose who ever helps the most. Recent democratic VPs (edwards, lieberman) did nothing to this end and they've taken some heat for it.

I think McCain best bet is Minnesota's current governor, Tim Pawlenty. He appeals to traditional conversatives and he is from the midwest.

I also suspect the bible belt conversatives will fall in line and vote in force after a few Barrack Osamas (I mean obama...oops) and may some more "whitey" or commi bs innuedo.



So, you expect McCain to win on stupidity and racism? Maybe in the past, but not anymore. The American people are sick of it.



Whoa now. I didn't say that. I said he'd win conservatives in the deep south via stupidity and racism and i didn't use those words. It'll take vastly larger amounts of stupidity and misinformation for him to win the GE. The American people have historical and political IQ that just beats out a lima bean. Don't overestimate them. Some examples

On American believing Saddam did 911
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0314/p02s01-woiq.htm

On Americans and Geography
http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/05/02/geog.test/index.html

General Whining about low history IQ of Americans
http://hnn.us/articles/1732.html

I don't mean to insult Americans as i am one but I've had more intelligent political/history conversations with garbage men factory workers in Europe than with PhDs , MS/MA holders, Lawyers and doctors in America. Sorry. Its true.

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

JUN 19, 2008 12:57 PM

alaric said:
I think McCain best bet is Minnesota's current governor, Tim Pawlenty. He appeals to traditional conversatives and he is from the midwest.



Plus he's a douchebag, so, go on all cylinders, really.

Stiles

Stiles

Philadelphia, PA
November 2002

JUN 19, 2008 07:06 PM

alaric said:

I don't mean to insult Americans as i am one but I've had more intelligent political/history conversations with garbage men factory workers in Europe than with PhDs , MS/MA holders, Lawyers and doctors in America. Sorry. Its true.



I've found that a lot of lawyers and doctors I know don't have the time to really get schooled on world history unless it's a hobby of theirs. These guys are working 55-85 hours/week and they tend to sleep on whatever days off they have...which is what I did when I was working those hours.

The best read folks I know right now are retired, unemployed, or out on disability. Seriously.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JUN 19, 2008 07:23 PM

Stiles said:
I've found that a lot of lawyers and doctors I know don't have the time to really get schooled on world history unless it's a hobby of theirs. These guys are working 55-85 hours/week and they tend to sleep on whatever days off they have...



I prefer to drink.

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