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China's New Olympic Rules

FRIDAY JUNE 6 2008 9:00 PM

Submitted by Coyotemike. Edited By FearTheReaper.

TAGS: China, Olympics, human rights

Ahh, the Olympics: the traditions; the majesty; the competitive spirit; the graceful athleticism and the...the political restrictions?

That's right. China, not satisfied with infringing on their own citizens' rights to protest against the government, or cracking down on claims of independence of different areas, now they have released a list of rules for foreign visitors coming for the Games. These include:


  • No printed material that is critical of China

  • No rallies or demonstrations

  • Olympic Tickets do not necessarily mean an entry visa will be issued

  • No smuggling in Opium
  • (since there's no history of opium in China)

  • Do not insult the Chinese flag or other national Chinese symbols

  • No religious or political banners


Some of these make sense, like the rules of what to do if you get food poisoning, and I'm sure that plenty of host countries have refused entry visas to some people who had Olympic tickets. But some of these count as suppression of what are considered basic human rights.


“A person’s ability to express his or her opinion is a basic human right and as such does not need to have a specific clause in the Olympic Charter because its place is implicit,” said Jacques Rogge, the president of the International Olympic Committee, at a meeting in Beijing in April.



It should be noted that Olympic rules have, for over 50 years, included a ban on political, religious, and racial propaganda on Olympic sites, but that is more about suspending political differences and descriminations than China's version:

The advisory issued by the Beijing Organizing Committee includes a ban on bringing into China “anything detrimental to China’s politics, economy, culture or moral standards, including printed material, film negatives, photos, records, movies, tape recordings, videotapes, optical discs and other items.”



China was supposed to, as part of their winning bid in 2001, improve their human rights records.

We're still waiting.

 

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SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

JUN 10, 2008 02:06 PM

IDGAS said:

SockPuppet said:

IDGAS said:
Ah, China the land of low cost manufacturing, the forgotten rural masses, and a huge income disparity.



I forget where I heard it, but I'm certain that somewhere I heard that China has brought 200 million people out of poverty in the last 20 years. Any idea where that number might have come from?



The current population from the CIA factbook is 1,330,044,605 (July 2008 est.) so even if the lifted 200mm and lets give them the other 100,044,605 as also not being in poverty then they still have 1 billion poor people.

China over the last several years has had major and violent protests in rural area. The causes are corruption, substandard health care, and other related issues.



So, no idea? Does the CIA factbook give any numbers about Chinese poverty levels?

scylis

scylis

Seattle, WA
November 2004

JUN 10, 2008 02:37 PM

SockPuppet said:

IDGAS said:

SockPuppet said:

IDGAS said:
Ah, China the land of low cost manufacturing, the forgotten rural masses, and a huge income disparity.



I forget where I heard it, but I'm certain that somewhere I heard that China has brought 200 million people out of poverty in the last 20 years. Any idea where that number might have come from?



The current population from the CIA factbook is 1,330,044,605 (July 2008 est.) so even if the lifted 200mm and lets give them the other 100,044,605 as also not being in poverty then they still have 1 billion poor people.

China over the last several years has had major and violent protests in rural area. The causes are corruption, substandard health care, and other related issues.



So, no idea? Does the CIA factbook give any numbers about Chinese poverty levels?



Glorious Nation China's People's Administration's Fact Department of Fact Making?

scylis

scylis

Seattle, WA
November 2004

JUN 10, 2008 02:54 PM

scylis said:
Glorious Nation China's People's Administration's Fact Department of Fact Making?





yep.

d20

d20

San Francisco, CA
September 2003

JUN 10, 2008 03:06 PM

GrayRains said:

DevilsReject said:
Don't forget about the microchips in Olympic tickets with all the ticket holder's personal information on it.



Interesting, couldn't they be hacked then?



RFID cards hacked? nahhhhhh.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

JUN 10, 2008 04:15 PM

scylis said:

SockPuppet said:

IDGAS said:

SockPuppet said:

IDGAS said:
Ah, China the land of low cost manufacturing, the forgotten rural masses, and a huge income disparity.



I forget where I heard it, but I'm certain that somewhere I heard that China has brought 200 million people out of poverty in the last 20 years. Any idea where that number might have come from?



The current population from the CIA factbook is 1,330,044,605 (July 2008 est.) so even if the lifted 200mm and lets give them the other 100,044,605 as also not being in poverty then they still have 1 billion poor people.

China over the last several years has had major and violent protests in rural area. The causes are corruption, substandard health care, and other related issues.



So, no idea? Does the CIA factbook give any numbers about Chinese poverty levels?



Glorious Nation China's People's Administration's Fact Department of Fact Making?



Quite possibly.

IDGAS

IDGAS

Jackson Heights, NY
March 2004

JUN 10, 2008 07:59 PM

SockPuppet said:

IDGAS said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

SockPuppet said:

IDGAS said:
Ah, China the land of low cost manufacturing, the forgotten rural masses, and a huge income disparity.



I forget where I heard it, but I'm certain that somewhere I heard that China has brought 200 million people out of poverty in the last 20 years. Any idea where that number might have come from?



The current population from the CIA factbook is 1,330,044,605 (July 2008 est.) so even if the lifted 200mm and lets give them the other 100,044,605 as also not being in poverty then they still have 1 billion poor people.

China over the last several years has had major and violent protests in rural area. The causes are corruption, substandard health care, and other related issues.



So, no idea? Does the CIA factbook give any numbers about Chinese poverty levels?


Population below poverty line: 8%
note: 21.5 million rural population live below the official "absolute poverty" line (approximately $90 per year); and an additional 35.5 million rural population above that but below the official "low income" line (approximately $125 per year) (2006 est.)



It will come down to how one defines poverty. Is lifting 200mm people from $90p/a to $120p/a really out of poverty?

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

JUN 11, 2008 03:21 PM

IDGAS said:

SockPuppet said:

IDGAS said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

SockPuppet said:

IDGAS said:
Ah, China the land of low cost manufacturing, the forgotten rural masses, and a huge income disparity.



I forget where I heard it, but I'm certain that somewhere I heard that China has brought 200 million people out of poverty in the last 20 years. Any idea where that number might have come from?



The current population from the CIA factbook is 1,330,044,605 (July 2008 est.) so even if the lifted 200mm and lets give them the other 100,044,605 as also not being in poverty then they still have 1 billion poor people.

China over the last several years has had major and violent protests in rural area. The causes are corruption, substandard health care, and other related issues.



So, no idea? Does the CIA factbook give any numbers about Chinese poverty levels?


Population below poverty line: 8%
note: 21.5 million rural population live below the official "absolute poverty" line (approximately $90 per year); and an additional 35.5 million rural population above that but below the official "low income" line (approximately $125 per year) (2006 est.)



It will come down to how one defines poverty. Is lifting 200mm people from $90p/a to $120p/a really out of poverty?



Well, you know, it's easy to define poverty when one is rich. You and I are among the few people on the planet who are rich. (We, for instance, can afford $4/month.)

But that's increasing their income by a third. It's a big increase, for them. It might even be enough to let them start to snowball it.

IDGAS

IDGAS

Jackson Heights, NY
March 2004

JUN 11, 2008 04:05 PM

SockPuppet said:

Well, you know, it's easy to define poverty when one is rich. You and I are among the few people on the planet who are rich. (We, for instance, can afford $4/month.)

But that's increasing their income by a third. It's a big increase, for them. It might even be enough to let them start to snowball it.



The poorest in either the UK or US are rich when compare the destitute of the world.

mec_nukka

mec_nukka

I'm lost
April 2008

JUN 11, 2008 06:08 PM

Yesssssss!

Visa.

in.

hand, yo!!>

Man, this one was a nail-biter. It took me nearly a week to nurse this one through. And I was running it through an expediter and paid extra for "same day service." I can't wait until the Olympics are over so Beijing can get out of anal-implosion mode.

Besides, serious question, does anyone here even give a flying fuck about or watch the Olympics?? I know I don't.

There's only one event I give a shit about - that Canadian one where they push around those massive disks with brooms on ice.

But that's winter olympics. Fuck the summer olympics!!!

mec_nukka

mec_nukka

I'm lost
April 2008

JUN 11, 2008 06:09 PM

IDGAS said:

SockPuppet said:

Well, you know, it's easy to define poverty when one is rich. You and I are among the few people on the planet who are rich. (We, for instance, can afford $4/month.)

But that's increasing their income by a third. It's a big increase, for them. It might even be enough to let them start to snowball it.



The poorest in either the UK or US are rich when compare the destitute of the world.





whatever

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