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  • TUESDAY MAY 27 2008 6:00 AM

Enjoying Your Gas Rape?

Gas prices are now over $4 a gallon. Shocking, isn’t it? Who would have thought having an oil man in the White House would lead to crazy high gas prices? Being a Californian, I never thought something like this would happen, especially after Enron and other energy companies completely raped my state state in 2001, while the president sat back and watched.

Later we learned energy companies had manipulated the market, starting with lobbying for deregulation in the late '90s and ending with using the new rules to anally fuck the entire state of California. Even though it was quite obvious what was happening at the time, the Bush administration did nothing, even as our state government (Democrats) begged for help.

Now the same is happening with oil. This isn’t a supply and demand problem. Anyone who believes that is a fucking moron. We are paying high prices due to speculation. Over the past decade there has been…wait for it...yep, the development of unregulated international derivatives trading in oil futures. That has led the rich to create an oil bubble, so they can make up for all the money they lost during the real estate bubble burst. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

Sure, they tell us it’s all due to the dwindling world oil supply. Of course, most of the sources of that information are the same guys who will profit from just such a situation. Much like the manufactured Social Security “crisis,” this is all about a certain group of people who are trying to make more money. And now, they are.


"Millions of new households will suddenly have straws to start sucking at the world's rapidly shrinking oil reserves," wrote CIBC analyst Jeff Rubin.


Oh, scary.


"It's not going to be a one-year blip and go away like the Internet bubble," said Joseph Dancy, who manages the LSGI Venture Fund in Texas. "This is a matter of economics, and it's going to take a decade to work through."


I bet.

See, those two assholes are making shitloads of money driving up the price of oil. They are speculators. They desperately want us to believe that India and China suddenly began sucking up all our sweet oil. But that’s just not true. Sure, oil use is going up, but it does not justify the insane rise in prices we have seen here in the US.

The first culprit is our dollar. What a giant, hideous turd our dollar has become. The Bush plan to fight our economic woes is to drive down the price of the dollar. He’s hoping that will stimulate exports and tourism, which will make everything A-okay. He’s obviously a fucking idiot. The devaluing of the dollar is part of the reason gas prices have been shooting up, which causes the price of everything, food, goods, to shoot up, was well.

On the supply side, we’re doing fine.


In the U.S. alone, stockpiles of oil climbed by 11.9 million barrels in the month preceding the Energy Information Agency's May 7 inventory report; they were up by nearly 33 million barrels since Jan. 1. At the same time, MasterCard's May 7 gasoline report showed that gas demand has fallen by 5.8%, while the government suggested that gasoline consumption might have fallen by slightly over 6%.


And yet, prices keep going up, up, up. I’m not saying prices shouldn’t be going up. They should. A bit. But doubling and tripling, and I get that 2001 California déjà vu feeling. This is rape, all over again.

Congress is going to start looking into this latest rise in prices this week, but I don’t expect much to happen. Our presidential candidates, like Hillary Clinton, are running around blaming OPEC. That shipped sailed a long time ago. Control of oil prices is now in the hands of Wall Street. In 2006, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations issued a report on “The Role of Market Speculation in rising oil and gas prices.” What they found was a giant loophole in the regulation of oil derivatives trading.


"There's a few hedge fund managers out there who are masters at knowing how to exploit the peak [oil] theories and hot buttons of supply and demand, and by making bold predictions of shocking price advancements to come, they only add more fuel to the bullish fire in a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy." (The Role of Market Speculation in Rising Oil and Gas Prices, U.S. Senate, June 27, 2006).


And now those “few hedge fund managers” are taking advantage of that loophole while they can, while Bush is still in office and before Democrats gain a massive advantage in Congress. We’re in the middle of a greedy binge and it’s not going to stop until next year – because the only people who can do something about it don’t care.

The Commodity Futures Trading Commission is mandated by law to ensure prices reflect supply and demand, rather than market manipulation or speculation. Right now, the CFTC is a no show, just like the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission sat on its ass during the California energy crisis. But you tend to not do anything about a crisis when it's all your fault. That’s how the Bush government works.

In January 2006 the CFTC changed the rules of oil futures speculation – and I know you’re not going to believe this, but the CFTC actually changed the rules so there is no oversight. Crazy, huh? The US government energy futures regulator made sure there would be no regulation. Who would have thought such a thing would happen under Bush? At this point, people within the US trading crude oil, gasoline and heating oil futures can avoid ALL oversight requirements by routing their trades through London instead of New York.


It may just be coincidence that the present CEO of NYMEX, James Newsome, who also sits on the Dubai Exchange, is a former chairman of the US CFTC.


Huh. Shocking. When CFTC changed the rules in January 2006, the price of oil was $60 a barrel. Now it is up to $134 a barrel. There is now no way to actually detect price manipulation because daily reports are no longer required. From the 2006 Senate report:


“The CFTC's ability to detect and deter energy price manipulation is suffering from critical information gaps, because traders on OTC electronic exchanges and the London ICE Futures are currently exempt from CFTC reporting requirements. Large trader reporting is also essential to analyze the effect of speculation on energy prices.”


Basically, you’re getting F’ed in the A, and there is nothing you can do about it. This is the point where I laugh at all the lower income idiots who voted to put an oil man in the White House and thought it would work out great. Fuck you. You deserve this.

It’s gotten worse as of late because now the hedge funds, banks and other investors are jumping in. Now these speculators are driving up the cost of oil. The market does not see a difference between a barrel of oil being purchased by a speculator and a barrel being purchased by a refiner, or some other user of petroleum. Basically, around 50% of the price of oil is due to pure speculation. But no one really knows, because Bush deregulated the whole thing. We have very high supplies of oil and high oil prices. How awesome is that? It’s like the diamond business - only we don't all NEED diamonds.

 

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bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

MAY 27, 2008 02:51 PM

DevilsReject said:
I don't ever see Gas being below $3.50 a gallon again. Unfortunately once you breech a price and people are still willing to pay it, the greedy oil companies and oil big-wigs will never let it go back down. It would take major work on the part of the government to get it to where it should be, and i honestly don't think they are capable of it.


History would disagree with you. The price of gasoline was relatively flat throughout the 90s. It went up a few times, and came all the way back down. Gas was cheaper in 1998 than it was in 1994, and it was the same in March of 99 as it was in April of 93. I know that the circumstances were different, but a declaration that gas prices won't drop once they've hit a certain mark is not supported by any evidence.

Incidentally, it's speculation like that that was partially responsible for the housing bubble. The belief that prices will continue to rise indefinitely will tend to prop up speculation-based prices to unsustainable levels, creating a bubble. At some point, somewhere, market forces are going to allow the price to drop, and when speculation keeps it unnaturally afloat, it's bound to set up a crash.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

MAY 27, 2008 03:01 PM

FearTheReaper said:
The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.



Maybe poor people need to speculate oil too, that way everybody gets richer! biggrin

FearTheReaper said:
Basically, you're getting F'ed in the A, and there is nothing you can do about it. This is the point where I laugh at all the lower income idiots who voted to put an oil man in the White House and thought it would work out great. Fuck you. You deserve this.



And if you don't like it, you can go speculate on oil! That'll fix your lower income status! BWA HA HA HA HA HA!

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

MAY 27, 2008 03:10 PM

FearTheReaper said:

SockPuppet said:
I can't see the trend going anywhere but up, and probably faster than we're expecting. Two reasons:

a) Peak Oil, which we've discussed in other threads.

b) It's not in Gulf oil producers' long-term interests to increase the flow. Partly this is because the geology of oil production means less production from faster flows, so fields get depleted faster.
But mostly, it's not in the interests of the rulers of desert countries (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Dubai) to exhaust their oil supplies, because that is pretty much all they've got: once the oil is gone they go back to poverty.
(This goes double for the places which make a lot from tourism, because that is utterly reliant on oil.)



I guess that's why Iran has run out of places to store oil onshore and our buying more ships to store oil on the Straights of Hormuz. Because they aren't making much.



Iran's not a desert.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 27, 2008 03:15 PM

A little note here. My wife works at a gas station / convenience store. She isn't making one more dime than a year ago. Or two. No raise for two years.

Please don't take out your anger at high gas prices on the fucking cashier, you classless assholes. News Flash....The fucking cashier doesn't set the fucking price of gas, or make any "extra" money from it. Taking shit out on a fucking cashier is lower than being a playground bully, and makes you look like a total scumbag. You're all licensed drivers over the age of 16, act like a fucking adults. My wife doesn't make anywhere near enough money to put up with your abusive behavior.

Guess what else, Einstein? She pays the same price you do for gas! There's no "employee discount" at the gas station. Guess what else? I'm in construction in S Florida, so I'm making a lot less too!

And remember, you're on camera, douche bag, so go ahead and throw something. You're stressing out my wife and seriously fucking up our sex life, which pisses her off even more. Do not piss her off further. She will kick your ass.

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Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 27, 2008 03:17 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:
The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.



Maybe poor people need to speculate oil too, that way everybody gets richer! biggrin

FearTheReaper said:
Basically, you're getting F'ed in the A, and there is nothing you can do about it. This is the point where I laugh at all the lower income idiots who voted to put an oil man in the White House and thought it would work out great. Fuck you. You deserve this.



And if you don't like it, you can go speculate on oil! That'll fix your lower income status! BWA HA HA HA HA HA!



Holy fuck you're right!! Why don't all those poor people take all the excess money they have lying around doing nothing and invest it!

You are a fucking genius!!

And funny as fuck!!

You must be incredible rich and well endowed!

I'm completely envious of you and all that you represent!!

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 27, 2008 03:31 PM

I know this was on the other page, I reposted it so people will see it.




A little note here. My wife works at a gas station / convenience store. She isn't making one more dime
than a year ago. Or two. No raise for two years.

Please don't take out your anger at high gas prices on the fucking cashier, you classless assholes. News Flash....The fucking cashier doesn't set the fucking price of gas, or make any "extra" money from it. Taking shit out on a fucking cashier is lower than being a playground bully, and makes you look like a total scumbag. You're all licensed drivers over the age of 16, act like a fucking adults. My wife doesn't make anywhere near enough money to put up with your abusive behavior.

Guess what else, Einstein? She pays the same price you do for gas! There's no "employee discount" at the gas station. Guess what else? I'm in construction in S Florida, so I'm making a lot less too!

And remember, you're on camera, douche bag, so go ahead and throw something. You're stressing out my wife and seriously fucking up our sex life, which pisses her off even more. Do not piss her off further. She will kick your ass.

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SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

MAY 27, 2008 03:37 PM

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:
The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.



Maybe poor people need to speculate oil too, that way everybody gets richer! biggrin

FearTheReaper said:
Basically, you're getting F'ed in the A, and there is nothing you can do about it. This is the point where I laugh at all the lower income idiots who voted to put an oil man in the White House and thought it would work out great. Fuck you. You deserve this.



And if you don't like it, you can go speculate on oil! That'll fix your lower income status! BWA HA HA HA HA HA!



Holy fuck you're right!! Why don't all those poor people take all the excess money they have lying around doing nothing and invest it!

You are a fucking genius!!

And funny as fuck!!

You must be incredible rich and well endowed!

I'm completely envious of you and all that you represent!!



A lot of "poor" people, by historical standards are pretty well off. I'm sure if maybe they cut back on some of their expenses (maybe hold off buying a new cell phone or something), they could scrap enough money together to start investing.

And failing that, they might be able to get help in the form of microlending. Capitalism FTW!

swirlyboy

swirlyboy

I'm lost
April 2006

MAY 27, 2008 03:42 PM

Hunkpapa said:
Other things I've read and heard led me to believe that futures trading had a lot to do with the way oil prices have been going, but according to the minutes of the Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee Meeting for May (paragraph 11):


speculative purchases did not seem to be the prime cause of the recent increases in the oil price. More fundamental demand and supply factors had probably been at the root of its steep rise during recent months,


They appear to be specifically referring to Brent Crude (ie North Sea oil, though this is regarded as a benchmark) for the pricing of 2/3 of crude oil traded internationally), and I know they only refer to 'recent months'... but does this make them morons too? Eh, I don't really understand.






No, it just makes them liars. Like our Federal Reserve having the nerve to say the U.S. economy is not in a recession.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 27, 2008 03:49 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:
The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.



Maybe poor people need to speculate oil too, that way everybody gets richer! biggrin

FearTheReaper said:
Basically, you're getting F'ed in the A, and there is nothing you can do about it. This is the point where I laugh at all the lower income idiots who voted to put an oil man in the White House and thought it would work out great. Fuck you. You deserve this.



And if you don't like it, you can go speculate on oil! That'll fix your lower income status! BWA HA HA HA HA HA!



Holy fuck you're right!! Why don't all those poor people take all the excess money they have lying around doing nothing and invest it!

You are a fucking genius!!

And funny as fuck!!

You must be incredible rich and well endowed!

I'm completely envious of you and all that you represent!!



A lot of "poor" people, by historical standards are pretty well off. I'm sure if maybe they cut back on some of their expenses (maybe hold off buying a new cell phone or something), they could scrap enough money together to start investing.

And failing that, they might be able to get help in the form of microlending. Capitalism FTW!




I'll agree on that one. Capitalism definitely Fucks the World!

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

MAY 27, 2008 03:53 PM

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

SergeantPsycho said:

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:
The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.



Maybe poor people need to speculate oil too, that way everybody gets richer! biggrin

FearTheReaper said:
Basically, you're getting F'ed in the A, and there is nothing you can do about it. This is the point where I laugh at all the lower income idiots who voted to put an oil man in the White House and thought it would work out great. Fuck you. You deserve this.



And if you don't like it, you can go speculate on oil! That'll fix your lower income status! BWA HA HA HA HA HA!



Holy fuck you're right!! Why don't all those poor people take all the excess money they have lying around doing nothing and invest it!

You are a fucking genius!!

And funny as fuck!!

You must be incredible rich and well endowed!

I'm completely envious of you and all that you represent!!



A lot of "poor" people, by historical standards are pretty well off. I'm sure if maybe they cut back on some of their expenses (maybe hold off buying a new cell phone or something), they could scrap enough money together to start investing.

And failing that, they might be able to get help in the form of microlending. Capitalism FTW!




I'll agree on that one. Capitalism definitely Fucks the World!



Great we're devolving into one of these conversations again. Of course, it's entirely my fault for using the C-word. I'm not sure where your from (except that you seem to be lost, according to your info), but I'm welling to bed that were ever it is, if you'd like to trade places with some one from a Communist country, I'm sure you'll find no shortage of volunteers.

Fixer

Fixer

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

MAY 27, 2008 04:00 PM

RudieCantFail said:

Horrorflick said:
Just the other day, I stopped at a gas station I don't normally use to fill up. All of the card-reader things on the pumps are taped over. Annoying? Yeah, sure. I walk up to the counter to use my debit card to fill up. "You know, there's a two-dollar charge to use your card, right?" "No, I didn't know that, asshole. Give me my card back and I'll go somewhere else." I hear this is becoming a common practice in a lot of stations...



To be fair; as someone who has worked in a small business, the credit/debit card companies charge a fee, sometimes a flat rate, sometimes a percentage of the sale, to the business owner. Sometimes the owners of the business will swallow this cost as a courtesy to the customers..



Not a courtesy, it's a requirement of their Merchant Agreement.

http://www.bustachange.com/charging-you-to-use-your-credit-card-is-illegal/
http://consumerist.com/consumer/csr/mega-update-requiring-minimum-credit-card-purchases-is-a-violation-168646.php

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

MAY 27, 2008 04:02 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:
I'll agree on that one. Capitalism definitely Fucks the World!



Great we're devolving into one of these conversations again. Of course, it's entirely my fault for using the C-word. I'm not sure where your from (except that you seem to be lost, according to your info), but I'm welling to bed that were ever it is, if you'd like to trade places with some one from a Communist country, I'm sure you'll find no shortage of volunteers.



You assume there are only two ways to run an economy, and that they are opposed. You're wrong.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 27, 2008 04:04 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

SergeantPsycho said:

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:
The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.



Maybe poor people need to speculate oil too, that way everybody gets richer! biggrin

FearTheReaper said:
Basically, you're getting F'ed in the A, and there is nothing you can do about it. This is the point where I laugh at all the lower income idiots who voted to put an oil man in the White House and thought it would work out great. Fuck you. You deserve this.



And if you don't like it, you can go speculate on oil! That'll fix your lower income status! BWA HA HA HA HA HA!



Holy fuck you're right!! Why don't all those poor people take all the excess money they have lying around doing nothing and invest it!

You are a fucking genius!!

And funny as fuck!!

You must be incredible rich and well endowed!

I'm completely envious of you and all that you represent!!



A lot of "poor" people, by historical standards are pretty well off. I'm sure if maybe they cut back on some of their expenses (maybe hold off buying a new cell phone or something), they could scrap enough money together to start investing.

And failing that, they might be able to get help in the form of microlending. Capitalism FTW!




I'll agree on that one. Capitalism definitely Fucks the World!



Great we're devolving into one of these conversations again. Of course, it's entirely my fault for using the C-word. I'm not sure where your from (except that you seem to be lost, according to your info), but I'm welling to bed that were ever it is, if you'd like to trade places with some one from a Communist country, I'm sure you'll find no shortage of volunteers.



Well, I was born in a tiny little town near Maryland. You may of heard of it. It's called Washington D.C. I'm somewhat south of there now.

Ameriku! Love it or leave it!!

Really? Srsly? You're trying that tired, lame old crap again?
It's my country too, and I'll think and act how I please, thank you. Sorry you feel that you have some sort of higher claim to it than I do, but unless you're a Native American, I'd say may claim is as legit as yours. Make sure you don't hit your head riding on that high horse.

Serves me right for clicking on an ignored comment. I though maybe you were just drunk and saying stupid shit and you'd sober up come to your senses, but I'm getting the feeling it's not alcohol.
Back to bagville with you.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

MAY 27, 2008 04:09 PM

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 27, 2008 04:10 PM



Sorry I just got home from work and was a little tired. Not thinking straight. My bad.

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