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  • TUESDAY MAY 27 2008 6:00 AM

Enjoying Your Gas Rape?

Gas prices are now over $4 a gallon. Shocking, isn’t it? Who would have thought having an oil man in the White House would lead to crazy high gas prices? Being a Californian, I never thought something like this would happen, especially after Enron and other energy companies completely raped my state state in 2001, while the president sat back and watched.

Later we learned energy companies had manipulated the market, starting with lobbying for deregulation in the late '90s and ending with using the new rules to anally fuck the entire state of California. Even though it was quite obvious what was happening at the time, the Bush administration did nothing, even as our state government (Democrats) begged for help.

Now the same is happening with oil. This isn’t a supply and demand problem. Anyone who believes that is a fucking moron. We are paying high prices due to speculation. Over the past decade there has been…wait for it...yep, the development of unregulated international derivatives trading in oil futures. That has led the rich to create an oil bubble, so they can make up for all the money they lost during the real estate bubble burst. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

Sure, they tell us it’s all due to the dwindling world oil supply. Of course, most of the sources of that information are the same guys who will profit from just such a situation. Much like the manufactured Social Security “crisis,” this is all about a certain group of people who are trying to make more money. And now, they are.


"Millions of new households will suddenly have straws to start sucking at the world's rapidly shrinking oil reserves," wrote CIBC analyst Jeff Rubin.


Oh, scary.


"It's not going to be a one-year blip and go away like the Internet bubble," said Joseph Dancy, who manages the LSGI Venture Fund in Texas. "This is a matter of economics, and it's going to take a decade to work through."


I bet.

See, those two assholes are making shitloads of money driving up the price of oil. They are speculators. They desperately want us to believe that India and China suddenly began sucking up all our sweet oil. But that’s just not true. Sure, oil use is going up, but it does not justify the insane rise in prices we have seen here in the US.

The first culprit is our dollar. What a giant, hideous turd our dollar has become. The Bush plan to fight our economic woes is to drive down the price of the dollar. He’s hoping that will stimulate exports and tourism, which will make everything A-okay. He’s obviously a fucking idiot. The devaluing of the dollar is part of the reason gas prices have been shooting up, which causes the price of everything, food, goods, to shoot up, was well.

On the supply side, we’re doing fine.


In the U.S. alone, stockpiles of oil climbed by 11.9 million barrels in the month preceding the Energy Information Agency's May 7 inventory report; they were up by nearly 33 million barrels since Jan. 1. At the same time, MasterCard's May 7 gasoline report showed that gas demand has fallen by 5.8%, while the government suggested that gasoline consumption might have fallen by slightly over 6%.


And yet, prices keep going up, up, up. I’m not saying prices shouldn’t be going up. They should. A bit. But doubling and tripling, and I get that 2001 California déjà vu feeling. This is rape, all over again.

Congress is going to start looking into this latest rise in prices this week, but I don’t expect much to happen. Our presidential candidates, like Hillary Clinton, are running around blaming OPEC. That shipped sailed a long time ago. Control of oil prices is now in the hands of Wall Street. In 2006, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations issued a report on “The Role of Market Speculation in rising oil and gas prices.” What they found was a giant loophole in the regulation of oil derivatives trading.


"There's a few hedge fund managers out there who are masters at knowing how to exploit the peak [oil] theories and hot buttons of supply and demand, and by making bold predictions of shocking price advancements to come, they only add more fuel to the bullish fire in a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy." (The Role of Market Speculation in Rising Oil and Gas Prices, U.S. Senate, June 27, 2006).


And now those “few hedge fund managers” are taking advantage of that loophole while they can, while Bush is still in office and before Democrats gain a massive advantage in Congress. We’re in the middle of a greedy binge and it’s not going to stop until next year – because the only people who can do something about it don’t care.

The Commodity Futures Trading Commission is mandated by law to ensure prices reflect supply and demand, rather than market manipulation or speculation. Right now, the CFTC is a no show, just like the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission sat on its ass during the California energy crisis. But you tend to not do anything about a crisis when it's all your fault. That’s how the Bush government works.

In January 2006 the CFTC changed the rules of oil futures speculation – and I know you’re not going to believe this, but the CFTC actually changed the rules so there is no oversight. Crazy, huh? The US government energy futures regulator made sure there would be no regulation. Who would have thought such a thing would happen under Bush? At this point, people within the US trading crude oil, gasoline and heating oil futures can avoid ALL oversight requirements by routing their trades through London instead of New York.


It may just be coincidence that the present CEO of NYMEX, James Newsome, who also sits on the Dubai Exchange, is a former chairman of the US CFTC.


Huh. Shocking. When CFTC changed the rules in January 2006, the price of oil was $60 a barrel. Now it is up to $134 a barrel. There is now no way to actually detect price manipulation because daily reports are no longer required. From the 2006 Senate report:


“The CFTC's ability to detect and deter energy price manipulation is suffering from critical information gaps, because traders on OTC electronic exchanges and the London ICE Futures are currently exempt from CFTC reporting requirements. Large trader reporting is also essential to analyze the effect of speculation on energy prices.”


Basically, you’re getting F’ed in the A, and there is nothing you can do about it. This is the point where I laugh at all the lower income idiots who voted to put an oil man in the White House and thought it would work out great. Fuck you. You deserve this.

It’s gotten worse as of late because now the hedge funds, banks and other investors are jumping in. Now these speculators are driving up the cost of oil. The market does not see a difference between a barrel of oil being purchased by a speculator and a barrel being purchased by a refiner, or some other user of petroleum. Basically, around 50% of the price of oil is due to pure speculation. But no one really knows, because Bush deregulated the whole thing. We have very high supplies of oil and high oil prices. How awesome is that? It’s like the diamond business - only we don't all NEED diamonds.

 

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bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

MAY 27, 2008 11:38 AM

BRussu said:
Saw this on another forum I go to.

Aside from the oil companies getting rich raping us for the oil and gas. They also like to buy up the patents on alternate fuel sources, and lock them down so nobody else can further the research...

-Patent #7,014,953 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)
-Patent #6,969,567 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)
-Patent #6,759,034 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)
-Patent #6,557,655 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)
-Patent #6,330,925 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)
-Patent #5,879,831 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)


Um. Not to throw a wrench into your conspiracy theory there, but Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems hasn't been owned (in full or in part) by Chevron/Texaco since before those patents were filed, and Energy Conversion Devices, the company that bought out the half of Texaco Ovonic that was held by ChevronTexaco until 2003 is currently an active (and successful) supplier of alternative energy materials.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

MAY 27, 2008 11:47 AM

Horrorflick said:
It seems like I hear the same thing from every gas-station worker/owner/whatever I've ever expressed any outrage over pricing to:



For the record, I've never worked in a gas station and so I don't have a personal bias towards that particular industry. The business that I'm familiar with was a liquor store, which as I said, like any other business, gets charged fees by the banks and credit card companies, which is how I'm familiar with the system.


"Oh, we don't make any money selling gas." Well, somebody has to be! Otherwise, where would the advantage in owning/operating a gas station be?



They are making money. As decent a profit as any other small business, which is to say very marginal. Like most small businesses, I think you'll find that many gas stations make use of family labor and exceedingly long shifts by the owners/operators to make the business profitable.


The way I keep hearing it is that the poor, lowly gas station dude doesn't make dime one, while all these laughing, screeching money assholes on wall street are just sweeping in the cash faster than it can be printed per barrel.



That's pretty much accurate.


You would think that with things being as they are (shitty), they would start waiving a lot of these fees so that more people would buy shit. (I might be wrong here, but I think lots of folks use them fancy debit cards these days. I myself haven't carried cash for a long time.)



You might think that, but you'd be wrong. Merely accepting the cards in the first place is a matter of providing convenience for the customers. There is a tipping point where absorbing the transaction fees is no longer profitable, and it would seem that for gas stations that point has been reached.

And yeah, many people do use debit cards these days because of the immense pressure and lack of alternatives put on them by the banking industry. They're the ones that profit off of the use of debit cards by reducing the overhead of branch locations.

EDIT: It's all right to be angry about the transaction fees, I'm just trying to get you to direct your anger in the proper direction.

BRussu

BRussu

Brunswick, OH
April 2004

MAY 27, 2008 11:48 AM

bean said:

BRussu said:
Saw this on another forum I go to.

Aside from the oil companies getting rich raping us for the oil and gas. They also like to buy up the patents on alternate fuel sources, and lock them down so nobody else can further the research...

-Patent #7,014,953 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)
-Patent #6,969,567 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)
-Patent #6,759,034 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)
-Patent #6,557,655 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)
-Patent #6,330,925 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)
-Patent #5,879,831 (Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems)


Um. Not to throw a wrench into your conspiracy theory there, but Texaco Ovonic Battery Systems hasn't been owned (in full or in part) by Chevron/Texaco since before those patents were filed, and Energy Conversion Devices, the company that bought out the half of Texaco Ovonic that was held by ChevronTexaco until 2003 is currently an active (and successful) supplier of alternative energy materials.



See what I get for going on other forum's that aren't SG. My bad, shoulda done more research.

almostfamous

almostfamous

NEWSWIRE

United Kingdom

MAY 27, 2008 12:38 PM

ericwine said:

SaucisseDanseuse said:
rape bulletin from italy.

1 liter = 0.264 gallons
1 euro = 1.58 dollars

1 gas liter at the average pump today = 1.51 euro

this all translates to:

1 gallon in italy = 5.7 dollars

it's not even anal rape, it's like having your dick cut off, and then being anally raped with it.

nuff said.



What's the tax per liter? I understand that Europe has much higher gas taxes than we do. You aren't as impacted by the higher price of crude oil as we are because the dollar (which is the currency used in the international markets) has lost so much value compared to the euro.
But you're still paying too much, even so.



We've been impacted rather hard by rising prices.



(you might have to open that graph in a new window to see just how fucked we're getting)

Skully

Skully

SUICIDEGIRL

Washington, USA

MAY 27, 2008 01:06 PM

its sad.

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

MAY 27, 2008 01:22 PM

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

MAY 27, 2008 01:41 PM

almostfamous said:

ericwine said:

SaucisseDanseuse said:
rape bulletin from italy.

1 liter = 0.264 gallons
1 euro = 1.58 dollars

1 gas liter at the average pump today = 1.51 euro

this all translates to:

1 gallon in italy = 5.7 dollars

it's not even anal rape, it's like having your dick cut off, and then being anally raped with it.

nuff said.



What's the tax per liter? I understand that Europe has much higher gas taxes than we do. You aren't as impacted by the higher price of crude oil as we are because the dollar (which is the currency used in the international markets) has lost so much value compared to the euro.
But you're still paying too much, even so.



We've been impacted rather hard by rising prices.



(you might have to open that graph in a new window to see just how fucked we're getting)



I don't want to get into a game of "it hurts me more than it hurts you," because I think the entire point of it is irrelevant. Gas prices have gone up over the world, and it hurts all over.

That said, according to your graph, you've experienced virtually the same increase over the last 9 years that we have over the last 3 (source). To put this in perspective, if the cost of your petrol had gone up by the same amount that ours has since the time your graph started, your graph would hit 271 pence on the right side there.

Sure you pay more, but it's the change that's important, especially with gas, because so many things are affected by the cost of gas.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

MAY 27, 2008 01:42 PM

I can't see the trend going anywhere but up, and probably faster than we're expecting. Two reasons:

a) Peak Oil, which we've discussed in other threads.

b) It's not in Gulf oil producers' long-term interests to increase the flow. Partly this is because the geology of oil production means less production from faster flows, so fields get depleted faster.
But mostly, it's not in the interests of the rulers of desert countries (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Dubai) to exhaust their oil supplies, because that is pretty much all they've got: once the oil is gone they go back to poverty.
(This goes double for the places which make a lot from tourism, because that is utterly reliant on oil.)

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAY 27, 2008 02:00 PM

SockPuppet said:
I can't see the trend going anywhere but up, and probably faster than we're expecting. Two reasons:

a) Peak Oil, which we've discussed in other threads.

b) It's not in Gulf oil producers' long-term interests to increase the flow. Partly this is because the geology of oil production means less production from faster flows, so fields get depleted faster.
But mostly, it's not in the interests of the rulers of desert countries (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Dubai) to exhaust their oil supplies, because that is pretty much all they've got: once the oil is gone they go back to poverty.
(This goes double for the places which make a lot from tourism, because that is utterly reliant on oil.)



I guess that's why Iran has run out of places to store oil onshore and our buying more ships to store oil on the Straights of Hormuz. Because they aren't making much.

Skywisdom

Skywisdom

Portland, OR
December 2005

MAY 27, 2008 02:09 PM

Man, I love my bike.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

MAY 27, 2008 02:12 PM

OpticNerve said:
When does Captain America appear to give Bush a solid right cross to his jaw?



the REAL Cap is dead.

while Bucky might show up in his stead, it won't be nearly soon enough. he might kneecap the Shrub, actually, as Bucky packs heat.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

MAY 27, 2008 02:17 PM

Skywisdom said:
Man, I love my bike.



Must be nice to live in a place where that's practical and safe.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

MAY 27, 2008 02:19 PM

RudieCantFail said:

Skywisdom said:
Man, I love my bike.



Must be nice to live in a place where that's practical and safe.



hah. from what i hear, he isn't. i hear Portland's become crystal meth central these days.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

MAY 27, 2008 02:30 PM

scylis said:
i hear Portland's become crystal meth central these days.



And I'm just now being informed of this?!

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

MAY 27, 2008 02:38 PM

I will take a shot at this. I have a little experience with it.

Horrorflick said:
It seems like I hear the same thing from every gas-station worker/owner/whatever I've ever expressed any outrage over pricing to: "Oh, we don't make any money selling gas."



they don't make any money selling gas. that's why you rarely see just a gas station anymore. They all have mini-marts attached to them. While they only make $.10 or so profit on a gallon of gas. They make $.75 profit on a roll of paper towels, $.30 on candy bars, $.50 on pop and snacks.

If you notice these mini-marts are never priced even close to what normal large chain grocery stores are, everything is a little more expensive.

The gas is just a draw. It gets people in the door and the convenience of having something you need right there is where they make the bulk of their profit.

Gas stations are always attached to something. A stand alone gas station is a rarity in the United States anymore. They all have repair shops/mini-marts attached to them.

Well, somebody has to be! Otherwise, where would the advantage in owning/operating a gas station be? The way I keep hearing it is that the poor, lowly gas station dude doesn't make dime one,



There are definitely more profitable companies and businesses to own. I wouldn't claim they are dirt poor, but i wouldn't say they are millionaires either.

while all these laughing, screeching money assholes on wall street are just sweeping in the cash faster than it can be printed per barrel. You would think that with things being as they are (shitty), they would start waiving a lot of these fees so that more people would buy shit.



As Rudy said, it's usually the choice of the owner of the gas station to do what he wishes with those fees. The majority of them around here include it in what they price their products for, so that we really don't ever see the fees, but we end up paying them blindly. Others just say fuck it and we are going to charge the people who use Credit/Debit pay for their charges while people who use cash will be rewarded by not having to pay any additional fees.

There is a fee no matter what card you are using. MC and Visa charge the company for using their service, it's how MC and Visa make some of their money.

Drive a Semi sometime, it gets really frustrating because the big places that accept filling up an 18-wheeler have two prices for Diesel. One for credit and one for cash. If you use cash it's 5-10 cents cheaper than credit. Cash is cheaper because the fee on a credit card when filling a 300-400 gallon tank is more due to the cost you are charging. I feel bad for owner/operators right now.

(I might be wrong here, but I think lots of folks use them fancy debit cards these days. I myself haven't carried cash for a long time.)



While the majority of the time i always use my debit card, i do always have cash on hand. Everyone accepts cash, and i have been to some places in the States that look at you like you're insane if you whip out a credit/debit card. Cash is still universally accepted.

I don't ever see Gas being below $3.50 a gallon again. Unfortunately once you breech a price and people are still willing to pay it, the greedy oil companies and oil big-wigs will never let it go back down. It would take major work on the part of the government to get it to where it should be, and i honestly don't think they are capable of it.

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