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Middle Aged Lady Rage

THURSDAY MAY 22 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Democratic Primary

Middle-aged women are pissed. Their great hope is going down in flames and losing to a black man, which is causing them to lose their minds. They are popping up on websites, in news interviews and on radio shows. Many of them say the same thing; they won’t vote for Barack Obama. I think their unofficial spokeswoman is Geraldine Ferraro, who this week told the New York Times she might not vote for Obama if he were the nominee.


“I think Obama was terribly sexist,” she said.


Uh. Wait. What the fuck? Ferrero made one of the most racist comments during this primary, and now she is…Holy Fucking Shit, what is wrong with these people? Seriously, does she ever say anything that is not mind-bogglingly retarded? Nope. Not as of yesterday, anyway.


All the surrogates that they had out there, from the black journalists — you know, have you read Bob Herbert recently in the past six months? There wasn't one column that had anything decent to say about Hillary.


Uh, yeah. It was the “black journalists” fault that Hillary ran the worst campaign since Rudy Giuliani. Why did we ever teach those Negroes to write? By the way, Gerry, have you watched Hillary in the last six months? There wasn’t anything decent to say, period.

Mass delusion seems to have set upon this country’s almost-old ladies. They are now blaming Obama for the media’s sexist attacks against Hillary – while at the same time completely ignoring the Clinton’s heinous and repeated racist attacks on Obama.


Nancy Wait, 55, a social worker in Columbia City, Ind., said Mr. Obama was far less qualified than Mrs. Clinton and described as condescending his recent assurances that Mrs. Clinton should stay in the race as long as she liked. Ms. Wait said she would “absolutely, positively not” vote for him come fall.


Oh, so he should have told her to get out? Hey, He Can’t Win Sally, shut the fuck up. Is Obama supposed to just not answer a question that is asked 100 times a day? Should he have made an “I’m locking my mouth and throwing away the key” move? Sorry what you expected to happen didn’t happen. Welcome to grown-up land. You know how many times my favorite candidate has become president in my lifetime? Zero. I still have yet to turn into the world’s biggest infant. You know why Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney were pressured to drop out? Turns out it wasn’t because they are women, but because there was no way they could win. If any of these women had a legitimate excuse to not vote for Obama, I’m all ears, but what I’m hearing now is just is bitterness crammed in between stupidity.


Cynthia Ruccia, 55, a sales director for Mary Kay cosmetics in Columbus, Ohio, is organizing a group, Clinton Supporters Count Too, of mostly women in swing states who plan to campaign against Mr. Obama in November. “We, the most loyal constituency, are being told to sit down, shut up and get to the back of the bus,” she said.


Wait. Your Democratic candidate was beaten by another Democratic candidate, so you’re going to do what you can to make sure a Republican wins the White House? What a fucking lunatic. I can totally understand her not wanting to vote for Obama because he doesn’t represent her views. That is what you are supposed to do in a Democracy, but this goes so far beyond that. They are planning to actively fight against what they believe in to help elect someone who greatly opposes their political beliefs. And they are doing so because of a self-created fantasy that involves them being told to “shut up and get in the back of the bus.” Which is weird, because that actually makes me want to tell them to shut up and get in the back of the bus.

I used to be a daily reader of a blog called TalkLeft. It’s actually an interesting blog because a lawyer created it and the two main bloggers talk about subjects from a liberal legal viewpoint. Up until a couple of months ago, I was a daily reader. But the sight became one of the few liberal blogs that supports Clinton. (The creator is a middle aged lady - go figure.) Going to the site and reading the comments is like taking a trip into an alternate universe. It is, quite simply, mind-boggling.


Why couldn't Obama have just let Hillary run and wait his turn? He's been in Washington about a minute and half. No one knows anything about him and he has sooooo little experience. I worry about who he would appoint to important jobs like State department and Defense and others.


Right. He might appoint Sinbad as Secretary of Defense.

I find comments that Obama should have waited his turn to be insulting. He’s supposed to wait for her? Why? Because she’s an “experienced woman?” And experienced women get to go before black guys? Does the experience part include voting the wrong way on Iraq? Because that’s one of the main reasons a lot of people aren’t supporting her. Just think how Hillary supporters would take this statement if the situation were reversed; if the black man was behind and telling the woman to wait her turn. They’d lose their fucking minds. Although, they are already losing their minds.


Tuesday Obama will try to steal the nomination in much the same way that Bush stole the 2000 election. He will declare victory when there is none.

He sees victory slipping away and is clinging to hope out of desperation.

His superdelegate endorsements have slowed to a trickle, if even that.

He is behind in the popular vote if we still value democracy and this is still a country made up of 50 states.


Well, no, no, no, no and no.

I realize I am just plucking messages off a board, but it's fun and easy -- oh, and they are examples of the mass delusion that seems to have overcome Clinton supporters. And Hillary is leading them on this path. Yesterday her campaign began this “stealing the election, count all the votes” drive. It is the most destructive path she can go down, which means she will. She is actually now running around comparing the Florida and Michigan situation to the Gore/Bush Florida 2000 election fiasco. Amazing.

The most annoying comment of all is the most often repeated comment.


You can’t handle a strong woman.


Totally. I’ll tell my wife, the doctor, I can’t handle her and I need her to stop making so much money, being so successful and shut the fuck up. Part of equality means taking the good with the bad, which means accepting when people judge a female candidate on her character and policies – not her sex. It's actually a step backwards for feminism not to do so.

Some of us can actually say “no” to a candidate because we don’t believe she’d be the best president – and that actually has nothing to do with the fact that she has a vagina. I understand some people are always going to have a problem with the idea of a woman president. But guess what, some people are also always going to have a problem with a black president.

And, while we’re at it, if the reason Hillary didn’t win is because of sexism, then how is it she won the white, working class male vote in most states? Please explain. How are men holding her back by voting for her? But her followers won’t even contemplate such a thought. It’s time to rage. It’s time to scream in anger that Hillary was the right candidate but the wrong gender, and completely ignore the obvious truth that she was the right gender but the wrong candidate.

Now, I’m not denying she took her share of lumps. Chris Mathews and his insanely sexist comments come to mind. And there were articles written about what she was wearing. They were incredibly sexist. The media would never do such a thing to a man and certainly not to a candidate from South Carolina who got an expensive haircut. No way a newspaper columnist at a political conference called him a “faggot”. That kind of shit only happens to women, because the country is sexist. Political pundits definitely wouldn’t call a Governor from Massachusetts a pretty boy, would they? Perish the thought.

Obviously the reason Clinton lost is because she is a woman. I mean, Obama has less experience than Hillary. Why would anyone pick the candidate with less experience, unless they were afraid of a strong woman? That’s why America chose Obama over Edwards, Richardson, Dodd, Kucinich and Biden – because they are all women. They had more experience, but they also had vaginas. And that’s why the less experienced Kennedy beat a female named Nixon, and less qualified Carter beat Lady Ford, and inexperienced Bill Clinton beat Granny Bush.

Now we will have to wait to see if these women carry out their threats.


We have a plan to campaign against the Democratic nominee. We have the (wo)manpower and the money to make our threat real. And there are millions of supporters who will back us up in the swing states. If you don’t listen to our voice now, you will hear from us later.

We're just at the boiling point. Women will sit back and be quiet about things for a while, but we've had enough. Unless Hillary Clinton is our nominee, we are not going to support the nominee.


Succumbing to threats is always the best way to choose a candidate. They are putting their lifetime of anger into this one political campaign and if it doesn’t happen, well, then they are going to kill everybody. This is different than past inside party conflicts. This is very different than John McCain against George Bush in 2000. This shit goes deep, this is a lifetime of rage and we’ve gone past the tipping point.

We are now into the scorched Earth phase. This idea is coming from the top. Hillary and her campaign have been pushing the sexism excuse for a week. They are combining it with “election theft” by saying the DNC conspired to make sure a man won the nomination. You’ve got to wonder how many more wounds she can open and dig into before this race is over. I’m starting to yearn for the days when she was launching vicious attacks on Obama, as they were probably less damaging.

The fascinating thing about this whole mess is that if Hillary were a man, she’d be gone by now. Long gone.

 

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OhSoOrdinary

OhSoOrdinary

New York, NY
July 2006

MAY 25, 2008 06:57 PM



So how many lashes do I get?

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 25, 2008 07:21 PM

OhSoOrdinary said:



So how many lashes do I get?



You're such a flirt! smile

Nolan_Void

Nolan_Void

Salisbury, NC
July 2004

MAY 25, 2008 08:02 PM

OhSoOrdinary said:


ZOMG. Even from Fox I would not expect such a thing.



And it's at this point where I start longing for an Apocalypse.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

MAY 25, 2008 08:02 PM

OhSoOrdinary said:


ZOMG. Even from Fox I would not expect such a thing.

I like how the host slips in "Talk about how you really feel" right after her little gaff. Seriously, its so ironic that earlier in that interview, they mention that through Clinton's comments "we have seen an X-ray of a very dark soul", yet they end up doing the same thing with Obama...

To that note, I can't help reiterating some of the thoughts I've been sharing on the CE boards recently. First, that much of America has been infected with a serious illness: hate. It seems to me that the pompous purveyors of racism, sexism, xenophobia, etc. have been running a silent campaign to try and divide Americans through fear of diversity rather then embrace and unite under the umbrella of diversity. Often they use subtle and coded words that may come across as acceptable yet are implicit in their meaning. Similarly, there is an association of negativity campaign that has been crafted to reinforce fears (often through repetition of themes and images) or by subliminally merging two unrelated ideas into one.

A classic example is bridging together political activism with radicalism over to extremism and on to terrorism (a strategy that former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales may have employed as a means to support domestic spying programs while simultaneously silencing, exacerbating and demonizing legitimate, peaceful activist groups and activities). Its sort of an Orwellian method of Newspeak, where language itself is twisted into a means of control and fear.

Finally, on the idea of Obama and association to RFK and JFK. I've seen and am quite disturbed by this subtle association with assassination being repeated over and over on Fox News, even before Clinton's own wretched comments. Not surprising since these days, it seems Hillary Clinton has been taking her cues from Rupert Murdoch (who supports her campaign!) and Karl Rove (who, despite all his statements to the suggest otherwise, really wants to sit on her lap).

Sigh... Oh well. I hope she finally, quietly goes away.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

MAY 25, 2008 08:11 PM

Nolan_Void said:

OhSoOrdinary said:


ZOMG. Even from Fox I would not expect such a thing.



And it's at this point where I start longing for an Apocalypse.


No Apocalypse for you, they were condemning Hillary for suggesting or implying assassination and then end up doing it themselves. They just cant help slipping back into their cozy backwards world... Perhaps they're just confused with the way they've been treating Clinton over the last several years, hate Hillary, praise Hillary, hate Hillary, kill Osam, er Obama, er, well both if we could... Whoops!

defaultx

defaultx

I'm lost
February 2006

MAY 25, 2008 08:56 PM

WOW WTF.

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

MAY 26, 2008 11:48 AM

Obama is now just 49 delegates short of the nomination:

Yet to be tallied are:

Total delegates needed for nomination 2025

Delegates Pledged to Barack Obama 1976

Delagates needed for nomination 56

Remaining primaries:

Puerto Rico (June 1) 55

Montana (June 3) 16

South Dakota (June 3) 16

Uncommitted superdelegates: 202

attn_Hussein_ho

attn_Hussein_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

MAY 31, 2008 06:12 PM


Todays decision angered some people.

silversoul7

silversoul7

Portland, OR
January 2008

MAY 31, 2008 08:04 PM

Is it fair to say that these Hillary supporters are setting back the feminist movement at least 30 years?

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

MAY 31, 2008 08:07 PM

attn_ho said:

Todays decision angered some people.



Boy to some people get whiney when they don't get their way.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

MAY 31, 2008 09:00 PM

Once the soapboxed agitators are out of the limelight, we probably won't hear much more about disgruntled feminists against Obama. All the hype has been a double-edged sword and has been counter-productive if you ask me. The whole "sexist" attack was just another low-brow tactic from the Clinton campaign. Clinton's been baiting Obama the whole time, egging and bullying him to no avail. If nothing else, through her negative tact, she's make herself appear unattractive to voters and it has nothing to do with her sex. Yet when ever someone points out her faults of character, out come the cries of sexism... Simply unconscionable.

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