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Middle Aged Lady Rage

THURSDAY MAY 22 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Democratic Primary

Middle-aged women are pissed. Their great hope is going down in flames and losing to a black man, which is causing them to lose their minds. They are popping up on websites, in news interviews and on radio shows. Many of them say the same thing; they won’t vote for Barack Obama. I think their unofficial spokeswoman is Geraldine Ferraro, who this week told the New York Times she might not vote for Obama if he were the nominee.


“I think Obama was terribly sexist,” she said.


Uh. Wait. What the fuck? Ferrero made one of the most racist comments during this primary, and now she is…Holy Fucking Shit, what is wrong with these people? Seriously, does she ever say anything that is not mind-bogglingly retarded? Nope. Not as of yesterday, anyway.


All the surrogates that they had out there, from the black journalists — you know, have you read Bob Herbert recently in the past six months? There wasn't one column that had anything decent to say about Hillary.


Uh, yeah. It was the “black journalists” fault that Hillary ran the worst campaign since Rudy Giuliani. Why did we ever teach those Negroes to write? By the way, Gerry, have you watched Hillary in the last six months? There wasn’t anything decent to say, period.

Mass delusion seems to have set upon this country’s almost-old ladies. They are now blaming Obama for the media’s sexist attacks against Hillary – while at the same time completely ignoring the Clinton’s heinous and repeated racist attacks on Obama.


Nancy Wait, 55, a social worker in Columbia City, Ind., said Mr. Obama was far less qualified than Mrs. Clinton and described as condescending his recent assurances that Mrs. Clinton should stay in the race as long as she liked. Ms. Wait said she would “absolutely, positively not” vote for him come fall.


Oh, so he should have told her to get out? Hey, He Can’t Win Sally, shut the fuck up. Is Obama supposed to just not answer a question that is asked 100 times a day? Should he have made an “I’m locking my mouth and throwing away the key” move? Sorry what you expected to happen didn’t happen. Welcome to grown-up land. You know how many times my favorite candidate has become president in my lifetime? Zero. I still have yet to turn into the world’s biggest infant. You know why Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney were pressured to drop out? Turns out it wasn’t because they are women, but because there was no way they could win. If any of these women had a legitimate excuse to not vote for Obama, I’m all ears, but what I’m hearing now is just is bitterness crammed in between stupidity.


Cynthia Ruccia, 55, a sales director for Mary Kay cosmetics in Columbus, Ohio, is organizing a group, Clinton Supporters Count Too, of mostly women in swing states who plan to campaign against Mr. Obama in November. “We, the most loyal constituency, are being told to sit down, shut up and get to the back of the bus,” she said.


Wait. Your Democratic candidate was beaten by another Democratic candidate, so you’re going to do what you can to make sure a Republican wins the White House? What a fucking lunatic. I can totally understand her not wanting to vote for Obama because he doesn’t represent her views. That is what you are supposed to do in a Democracy, but this goes so far beyond that. They are planning to actively fight against what they believe in to help elect someone who greatly opposes their political beliefs. And they are doing so because of a self-created fantasy that involves them being told to “shut up and get in the back of the bus.” Which is weird, because that actually makes me want to tell them to shut up and get in the back of the bus.

I used to be a daily reader of a blog called TalkLeft. It’s actually an interesting blog because a lawyer created it and the two main bloggers talk about subjects from a liberal legal viewpoint. Up until a couple of months ago, I was a daily reader. But the sight became one of the few liberal blogs that supports Clinton. (The creator is a middle aged lady - go figure.) Going to the site and reading the comments is like taking a trip into an alternate universe. It is, quite simply, mind-boggling.


Why couldn't Obama have just let Hillary run and wait his turn? He's been in Washington about a minute and half. No one knows anything about him and he has sooooo little experience. I worry about who he would appoint to important jobs like State department and Defense and others.


Right. He might appoint Sinbad as Secretary of Defense.

I find comments that Obama should have waited his turn to be insulting. He’s supposed to wait for her? Why? Because she’s an “experienced woman?” And experienced women get to go before black guys? Does the experience part include voting the wrong way on Iraq? Because that’s one of the main reasons a lot of people aren’t supporting her. Just think how Hillary supporters would take this statement if the situation were reversed; if the black man was behind and telling the woman to wait her turn. They’d lose their fucking minds. Although, they are already losing their minds.


Tuesday Obama will try to steal the nomination in much the same way that Bush stole the 2000 election. He will declare victory when there is none.

He sees victory slipping away and is clinging to hope out of desperation.

His superdelegate endorsements have slowed to a trickle, if even that.

He is behind in the popular vote if we still value democracy and this is still a country made up of 50 states.


Well, no, no, no, no and no.

I realize I am just plucking messages off a board, but it's fun and easy -- oh, and they are examples of the mass delusion that seems to have overcome Clinton supporters. And Hillary is leading them on this path. Yesterday her campaign began this “stealing the election, count all the votes” drive. It is the most destructive path she can go down, which means she will. She is actually now running around comparing the Florida and Michigan situation to the Gore/Bush Florida 2000 election fiasco. Amazing.

The most annoying comment of all is the most often repeated comment.


You can’t handle a strong woman.


Totally. I’ll tell my wife, the doctor, I can’t handle her and I need her to stop making so much money, being so successful and shut the fuck up. Part of equality means taking the good with the bad, which means accepting when people judge a female candidate on her character and policies – not her sex. It's actually a step backwards for feminism not to do so.

Some of us can actually say “no” to a candidate because we don’t believe she’d be the best president – and that actually has nothing to do with the fact that she has a vagina. I understand some people are always going to have a problem with the idea of a woman president. But guess what, some people are also always going to have a problem with a black president.

And, while we’re at it, if the reason Hillary didn’t win is because of sexism, then how is it she won the white, working class male vote in most states? Please explain. How are men holding her back by voting for her? But her followers won’t even contemplate such a thought. It’s time to rage. It’s time to scream in anger that Hillary was the right candidate but the wrong gender, and completely ignore the obvious truth that she was the right gender but the wrong candidate.

Now, I’m not denying she took her share of lumps. Chris Mathews and his insanely sexist comments come to mind. And there were articles written about what she was wearing. They were incredibly sexist. The media would never do such a thing to a man and certainly not to a candidate from South Carolina who got an expensive haircut. No way a newspaper columnist at a political conference called him a “faggot”. That kind of shit only happens to women, because the country is sexist. Political pundits definitely wouldn’t call a Governor from Massachusetts a pretty boy, would they? Perish the thought.

Obviously the reason Clinton lost is because she is a woman. I mean, Obama has less experience than Hillary. Why would anyone pick the candidate with less experience, unless they were afraid of a strong woman? That’s why America chose Obama over Edwards, Richardson, Dodd, Kucinich and Biden – because they are all women. They had more experience, but they also had vaginas. And that’s why the less experienced Kennedy beat a female named Nixon, and less qualified Carter beat Lady Ford, and inexperienced Bill Clinton beat Granny Bush.

Now we will have to wait to see if these women carry out their threats.


We have a plan to campaign against the Democratic nominee. We have the (wo)manpower and the money to make our threat real. And there are millions of supporters who will back us up in the swing states. If you don’t listen to our voice now, you will hear from us later.

We're just at the boiling point. Women will sit back and be quiet about things for a while, but we've had enough. Unless Hillary Clinton is our nominee, we are not going to support the nominee.


Succumbing to threats is always the best way to choose a candidate. They are putting their lifetime of anger into this one political campaign and if it doesn’t happen, well, then they are going to kill everybody. This is different than past inside party conflicts. This is very different than John McCain against George Bush in 2000. This shit goes deep, this is a lifetime of rage and we’ve gone past the tipping point.

We are now into the scorched Earth phase. This idea is coming from the top. Hillary and her campaign have been pushing the sexism excuse for a week. They are combining it with “election theft” by saying the DNC conspired to make sure a man won the nomination. You’ve got to wonder how many more wounds she can open and dig into before this race is over. I’m starting to yearn for the days when she was launching vicious attacks on Obama, as they were probably less damaging.

The fascinating thing about this whole mess is that if Hillary were a man, she’d be gone by now. Long gone.

 

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Nolan_Void

Nolan_Void

Salisbury, NC
July 2004

MAY 23, 2008 05:09 AM

chocohoodie said:

FearTheRopers said:

livertarian said:
I do not understand the idea of blame here - I'm not saying you're blaming anyone, but to suggest that Obama might lose the election "because of Hillary" makes no sense to me. It's Obama's job to persuade people. Some people will not be persuaded. There is no blame I can find, but plenty of reasons that boil down to the often ridiculous extremes of politics. I see no reason to assume those voters would have accepted Obama without controversy in the absence of a Clinton campaign.



Oh, come on. She has demonized Obama. Her camp has been claiming he is the reason the Florida and MIchigan votes are not being counted. She's saying he's winning by cheating, like Bush.

Some people will not vote for Obama because of the actions of the Clinton campaign. That's obvious. It's just a matter of how many.



Would you mind showing me the quote where they say that Obama is the one preventing the votes from Florida and/or Michigan from being counted?

Also, while it's entirely fair to say that her campaign has taken some cheap shots at Obama, you can't deny that there have been instances of the reverse happening too. And I don't think you can say Obama is being demonized by her when she says things like:

"I want to commend Senator Obama and his supporters. This continues to be a hard-fought race, from one end of our country to the other. And yes, we've had a few dust-ups along the way, but our commitment to bring America new leadership that will renew America's promise means that we have always stood together on what is most important.'





She's not talking about McCain here. I'm sure he'd love to run against her.


"I know other campaigns have tried to downplay the significance of these two states," Clinton told reporters in South Carolina Friday. "I think that is not a good strategy for Democrats or any of us who cares about the outcome of this election."




Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

MAY 23, 2008 07:39 AM

All this, then I hear on Morning Edition that one of New York's superdelegates is considering a switch from Clinton to Obama. I couldn't find the exact 5 second sound bite, so I'll let you all peruse the NPR website instead.

gogogone

gogogone

I'm lost
May 2004

MAY 23, 2008 07:41 AM

Hunter said:
I'm finding it tough to figure out what's motivating Hillary at this point. She's a very smart person, but clearly delusional in this area; something in her brain is malfunctioning. If Obama loses the general election because of her, everyone is going to hate her guts (except maybe those angry ladies). How will they feel when Obama loses and McCain appoints judges who then overturn Roe vs. Wade? It's truly psychotic of them to be willing to take such a huge hit to their own interests just to get back at Obama for beating HIllary fair and square.

Then again, I think a lot of it is talk, and when it comes down to it, any Hillary supporter with a rational bone in her body is going to vote for Obama over McCain when the time comes. At least, I'd like to give people that much credit.



+1,000 (from me). Thanks for so clearly stating something I had been thinking but still unable to verbalize so well.

defaultx

defaultx

I'm lost
February 2006

MAY 23, 2008 07:46 AM

Nolan_Void

Nolan_Void

Salisbury, NC
July 2004

MAY 23, 2008 06:22 PM

I, uh, I don't even know how to respond to this. This feels like some real Manchurian Candidate style shit right here...
Wow

Nolan_Void

Nolan_Void

Salisbury, NC
July 2004

MAY 23, 2008 06:37 PM

Well, for some reason the above link isn't working, so let's try again.

The Kennedy's are having a grand ole time right now, so let's bring up the assassination of one of their family members, and also allude to...Well, I think it goes without saying what this kind of talk alludes to.

ChrisSick

ChrisSick

Philadelphia, PA
March 2008

MAY 23, 2008 06:39 PM

Nolan, your link's down but I guess your referencing this?

Clinton reference's RFK's assassination in an explanation about why she has yet to drop out?

She's pretty far gone in terms of how separated she is from reality, but I don't honestly see her trying to encourage her supporters to take a shot at the second best protected man in the country. RFK Jr has said she's mentioned this previously, as an example of how long primaries can go on, not as a mention of gun play in Presidential politics.

I'm curious to see what Teddy's gonna say, though.

Nolan_Void

Nolan_Void

Salisbury, NC
July 2004

MAY 23, 2008 06:53 PM

Yeah, that's it. When it's at this point, and she's already said so much crazy shit, I really wonder. And even so, have some fucking decency for cryin' out loud. Ted just got out of the fucking hospital, and now this is going to be all over the place. I'm sure that's exactly the kind of thing he wants to see all over the papers and cable news networks now that he's just got the malignant brain cancer news.

Priapos

Priapos

Water Valley, TX
October 2005

MAY 23, 2008 09:03 PM

I wondered when or whether the assasination remark would come up. Did it remind anyone else of her strategy of prefacing her attacks on Barry with, "The Republicans will say..."


She might as well say, "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"

Nolan_Void

Nolan_Void

Salisbury, NC
July 2004

MAY 24, 2008 05:50 AM

Keith Olbermann lays the smack down. Thanks to the Liberal Politics group for posting this link.

I don't know about you guys, but I actually feel a lot better about the whole dragged-out nomination process after watching that. Inexplicably so.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 24, 2008 12:24 PM

So Hillaryists would rather vote for this bumbling sack of lies..



Than vote for Obama?

Yeah, that totally makes sense.

"Can we have the reverse sexism with a side of bigotry, please?"

surreal

robot

Priapos

Priapos

Water Valley, TX
October 2005

MAY 24, 2008 01:41 PM

Crow for dessert.

Alfaduetto

Alfaduetto

Greeneville, TN
May 2004

MAY 25, 2008 04:49 PM

Y'all are catchin' on. Gender Feminism is an absolute thing. As we progress from the denial phase into anger, here we sit in the "it's all about ME" campaign. Karma does not apply to chosen ones. The spoilers are gonna get meaner by the minute, not to mention how to get that$11M back in the bank account without gettin' caught. mad

OhSoOrdinary

OhSoOrdinary

New York, NY
July 2006

MAY 25, 2008 06:49 PM



ZOMG. Even from Fox I would not expect such a thing.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 25, 2008 06:52 PM

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