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The White House admitted in a court of law this week that it blatantly broke the law and... nobody gives a shit. Late on Sunday night, the criminals known as the Bush Administration acknowledged in a court filing that they don’t have backup tapes of emails between March 1 and May 22, 2003. Nothing much happened during that time, except the build up to the Iraq War. As a matter of fact, May 22nd just happens to be the day the UN gave formal approval to the US occupation of Iraq. How unlucky is that? And, it turns out we have something called the Presidential Records Act, which is a law that requires the president to save all his records. Thank God nobody gives a shit about our president breaking the law.


The archive was told it could not receive emails relating to Iraq, despite a 30-year-old law requiring the preservation of presidential records, because a system upgrade had deleted up to 5m emails.

"What is most shocking is that if anyone at the White House was deleting their emails during the invasion of Iraq, those e-mails are not on any backup tapes," Tom Blanton, director of the archive, said.


Yeah, that's a bummer Tommy. Did you see the Laker game?

Two non-profit organizations are suing the White House to recover any missing emails and to create a more effective email archiving system. (That basically means, don’t throw your hard drives in the shitter.) Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics (CREW) and the National Security Archive (NSA) are the two groups on this mission of failure.

Up until Sunday, there were quite a few contradictory reports coming from the administration. They said they had them, then they didn’t have them, then they did, then they recycled the back up tapes, then they were lost in a boat accident, then they were killed in Russia and finally, the court was told the emails got drunk and took off in a Jeep. None of those statements turned out to be true. The court asked the White House to clear up the confusion and state exactly which backup tapes it did and did not have from March 2003 to October 2005. Finally, late Sunday night, the White House came clean and said they had totally blown it. I believe they used the legal term, “My bad” and the US media responded with the journalistic expression, “No worries.”

In October 2003, the White House stopped their “policy” of recycling backup tapes. All tapes after that date have been preserved. Up until that point, it’s a bit spotty. In 2003, no tapes exist for March thru May and for the months May thru September the number of existing tapes is extremely low.


It seems clear now that the e-mail backups are spotty and that there is no guarantee that there are backup tapes for all of EOP during the period of concern, March 2003-October 2005. There are no tapes from earlier than May 23, 2003. So, anything deleted from the EOP network prior to May 23, 2003 (particularly between March 2003 and may 23, 2003) is missing from the back-up tapes.


It’s been 2 ˝ years since the White House “realized” there was a problem with the archiving system – and they are still trying to say they don’t know whether many emails are missing or not. The White House is clearly trying to run out the clock, knowing nothing will be done to punish them once they are gone. After Bush leaves the White House, the Republican media machine will go bat shit crazy if anyone investigates their obvious criminal activity and the Democrats will cower in a corner and shake. But, hey, the worst thing they did was commit an act of treason, so no big.

At this point, CREW and NSA want the judge to issue a ruling that forces the White House to copy email archive files from all electronic sources. It may actually happen now that the Administration has admitted that they “can’t find” a couple months worth of emails.

Go America!

 

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Skywisdom

Skywisdom

Portland, OR
December 2005

MAY 08, 2008 09:21 AM

Colinism said:

GeckoFabulous said:

NathanialBlood said:

coyotemike said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
It's so awesome that nobody cares about this.



It isn't that nobody cares. It is that the people who do care don't have any options. I sure as hell can't walk into the White House and say "You're all under arrest." And you can sure as hell bet that no Bush appointed federal judge is going to issue warrents for arrest. Congress isn't going to impeach, and all Bush has to do is sacrifice someone if there IS an investigation, then pardon them. So while there are MILLIONS of people who care, we have given away our power and can do nothing.



isn't this the reason you have the right to own arms though?



No, it isn't.



Well for some of us it is. smile



Remember, all problems can be solved by killing someone.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

MAY 08, 2008 09:22 AM

Skywisdom said:

Colinism said:

GeckoFabulous said:

NathanialBlood said:

coyotemike said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
It's so awesome that nobody cares about this.



It isn't that nobody cares. It is that the people who do care don't have any options. I sure as hell can't walk into the White House and say "You're all under arrest." And you can sure as hell bet that no Bush appointed federal judge is going to issue warrents for arrest. Congress isn't going to impeach, and all Bush has to do is sacrifice someone if there IS an investigation, then pardon them. So while there are MILLIONS of people who care, we have given away our power and can do nothing.



isn't this the reason you have the right to own arms though?



No, it isn't.



Well for some of us it is. smile



Remember, all problems can be solved by killing someone.



When negotiations fail, violence is all that is left. wink

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Waldwick, NJ
June 2003

MAY 08, 2008 09:25 AM

mingol said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
It's so awesome that nobody cares about this.


It's astonishing to me how little most people seem to care about everything this administration has done. Especially when you consider the absolute frenzy that everyone flew into when Clinton got a blow job.



I, for one, have taken the "They're gonna do what they want anyway... Is it November 2008 yet?" stance. I feel like a victim of abuse with a plan in place to escape and just waiting for that day to come.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

MAY 08, 2008 09:39 AM

Colinism said:
When negotiations fail, violence is all that is left. wink



And when violence fails because the US Military has more guns than you do, what comes next?

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Intercourse, PA
January 2006

MAY 08, 2008 09:41 AM

mydogfarted said:

mingol said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
It's so awesome that nobody cares about this.


It's astonishing to me how little most people seem to care about everything this administration has done. Especially when you consider the absolute frenzy that everyone flew into when Clinton got a blow job.



I, for one, have taken the "They're gonna do what they want anyway... Is it November 2008 yet?" stance. I feel like a victim of abuse with a plan in place to escape and just waiting for that day to come.



+1

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

MAY 08, 2008 09:50 AM

coyotemike said:

Colinism said:
When negotiations fail, violence is all that is left. wink



And when violence fails because the US Military has more guns than you do, what comes next?



Th e US military is having a spot of trouble in a country with only 26 million people , try scaling that up to 300,000,000 and throw in the fact that most soldiers won't want to shoot their own friends and family and by extension the friends/family of their fellow soldiers.

I think i'll be fine.

Oh and wink <----- how did you miss that?

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

MAY 08, 2008 09:52 AM

Colinism said:

coyotemike said:

Colinism said:
When negotiations fail, violence is all that is left. wink



And when violence fails because the US Military has more guns than you do, what comes next?



Th e US military is having a spot of trouble in a country with only 26 million people , try scaling that up to 300,000,000 and throw in the fact that most soldiers won't want to shoot their own friends and family and by extension the friends/family of their fellow soldiers.

I think i'll be fine.

Oh and wink <----- how did you miss that?



I didn't miss it . . . I just forgot to include my own tongue

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

MAY 08, 2008 10:08 AM

coyotemike said:

Colinism said:

coyotemike said:

Colinism said:
When negotiations fail, violence is all that is left. wink



And when violence fails because the US Military has more guns than you do, what comes next?



Th e US military is having a spot of trouble in a country with only 26 million people , try scaling that up to 300,000,000 and throw in the fact that most soldiers won't want to shoot their own friends and family and by extension the friends/family of their fellow soldiers.

I think i'll be fine.

Oh and wink <----- how did you miss that?



I didn't miss it . . . I just forgot to include my own tongue



And as mistakes go, yours was fatal. *blasts you with violence* biggrin

OhSoOrdinary

OhSoOrdinary

New York, NY
July 2006

MAY 08, 2008 10:33 AM

coyotemike said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
It's so awesome that nobody cares about this.



It isn't that nobody cares. It is that the people who do care don't have any options. I sure as hell can't walk into the White House and say "You're all under arrest." And you can sure as hell bet that no Bush appointed federal judge is going to issue warrents for arrest. Congress isn't going to impeach, and all Bush has to do is sacrifice someone if there IS an investigation, then pardon them. So while there are MILLIONS of people who care, we have given away our power and can do nothing.



I very much disagree. Most people don't even know, let alone care. I think if the kitchen table issues weren't so kitchen tabley, the madness that was the Democratic Primaries hadn't been so mad, and me and mine weren't over here getting shot at, this administration would receive more scrutiny. Unfortunately this is not the case and instead of an "Are you serious?", stories like this get a "So?"

Munke

Munke

Chula Vista, CA
May 2004

MAY 08, 2008 10:37 AM

All they need to do is blame some IT guy for not backing up the system.

frown

I'm sure that's what it will come down to... "Oh, the new guy forgot to not recycle the tapes, we'd never break any laws intentionally."

surreal

PS. I'm with MDF... Is the new circus show in town yet?

hk85

hk85

Guerneville, CA
October 2007

MAY 08, 2008 10:55 AM

So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause..

Kindle

Kindle

Seattle, WA
March 2006

MAY 08, 2008 12:36 PM

mingol said:

Kindle said:

coyotemike said:

NathanialBlood said:
isn't this the reason you have he right to bear arms though?


Only if I were inclined towards treason.


Yeah, Secret Service kind of frowns on the general public pulling a gun on anyone in the white house whatever


But it worked in the movie!


Well hell, I must have missed that one! Carry on then, I suppose. The movies can't be wrong! biggrin

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Intercourse, PA
January 2006

MAY 08, 2008 01:00 PM

Kindle said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

mingol said:

Kindle said:

coyotemike said:

NathanialBlood said:
isn't this the reason you have he right to bear arms though?


Only if I were inclined towards treason.


Yeah, Secret Service kind of frowns on the general public pulling a gun on anyone in the white house whatever


But it worked in the movie!



Well hell, I must have missed that one! Carry on then, I suppose. The movies can't be wrong! biggrin



We're sorry we chose TV over you, Dad... But it's spent so much more time raising us than you have.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

MAY 08, 2008 01:16 PM

This one pisses me off every time i read about it.

It's nearly impossible to "lose" e-mails anymore unless you are intentionally attempting to do so. Everything on a computer leaves a marker or track where information was sent and received, even more so on a close looped Network like the White House. it's quite obvious that someone destroyed or has hidden components in order to ensure it would never be found.

This Administration is like a homicidal maniac on his deathbed, they just don't give a shit what they do anymore because they know there are no consequences to their actions. I would love to see the next administration come in and just start charging the current administration with crimes against Americans. This is just getting pathetic.

QuargWarrior

QuargWarrior

Norcross, GA
February 2008

MAY 08, 2008 02:10 PM

DevilsReject said:
This one pisses me off every time i read about it.

It's nearly impossible to "lose" e-mails anymore unless you are intentionally attempting to do so. Everything on a computer leaves a marker or track where information was sent and received, even more so on a close looped Network like the White House. it's quite obvious that someone destroyed or has hidden components in order to ensure it would never be found.

This Administration is like a homicidal maniac on his deathbed, they just don't give a shit what they do anymore because they know there are no consequences to their actions. I would love to see the next administration come in and just start charging the current administration with crimes against Americans. This is just getting pathetic.



I agree. The only good thing you can say is that each day that passes is one less day we have to endure it. I really hope the next administration will actually do something to make positive changes. Sadly, I really do not believe they will. I have rarely seen any politician fulfill their camgaign promises and pre-election rhetoric. I am; however, forever the optimist and wait with a sense of joyful expectation that perhaps this year it may be different. Perhaps.

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