So how long before his rampant self-important streak causes him to get a second account and start posting again?

I may have faith that when I set my alarm clock, it's going to go off the next morning. I may also have faith that the sun is going to rise in the morning.
Neither of these things is an absolute certainty.
But to equate that with religious Faith or belief based upon hearsay, scant, or even contradictory evidence is usually nothing more than a disingenuous tactic of religious practitioners to try and classify Atheism as a religion, for a wide variety of their own personal fears and rationalities.

I wonder if he's still checking every 10 minutes ? Poor tortured soul.
Ha ha ha !
We'll in the end he did get one thing right.
He accomplished nothing.
Oh wait ! He did manage to make himself look like quite a tool.

+1

it always frustrates me when people say, "well aren't you just being religious about not being religious," or something similar.

no. i'm not. i don't believe in anything divine, so i don't really give it any thought. i don't have to constantly remind myself there is no god or gods, like many religious people i know seem to have to on the opposite side. the divine is just a non-factor in my life, save when it comes up in discussion, such as now. and even then, i give it no more credence than the Force, warp drives, the Halo rings, or Sauron, save for historical impact.

i don't think i've ever met any atheists who are 'religious about not being religious', but i know a lot of atheists who are religious about science. most people know dick-all about evolution, the big bang, or anything else--but they accept them because those are the things that people believe if they don't believe in god. that's really no different from someone who believes in intelligent design or seven day creation for no other reason than their inability to reconcile anything else with their belief in god.

of course, you can't tell people that. you question them on why they believe certain things, and they just yell NO ITZ SIENS and burn you at the stake for heresy.

Colinism said:

scylis said:
I give it no more credence than the Force.

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I find your lack of faith disturbing

i was hoping for that.

people who have such a "belief in science" don't really grasp what science is. science is the tool, the method we use to understand the universe around us. and one of the central premises of science is that the process is fallible, because we are. we can easily be wrong about a great many things, from dark matter to how much each individual gene does. everybody i've met that's been "religious about science" forgets that. science can be wrong, and its processes demand we acknowledge that, whereas religion demands we have faith that it's never wrong.

Atheist is by definition a lack of theism, it does not preclude having any belief at all.
Also probably worth mentioning is there are generally two types of Atheism, Implicit and Explicit, also commonly referred to as weak or strong Atheism.
There is a subtle but important difference between believing something does not exist and not believing in the existence of something.

The distinction between having faith and being a Faith seems, to me at least, far less convoluted, but a common semantic game for religious minded people to obscure.
While a Implicit Atheist may have faith in thier beliefs they are generally more open to the possibilities, whatever they might be.
The distinct lack of a theistic belief system is the qualifier, not the presence of faith in their opinion. And having faith in your opinion does not a Faith make.

sure. i just find it... distasteful when i see non-believers bashing believers for believing, when the vast majority of 'non-believers' are just as dogmatic as any churchgoer. i've got a lot more respect for a thinking man of faith than i do for someone who says humans evolved from monkeys. likewise, of course, i've got more respect for someone who knows enough about evolution to cringe about the whole monkey misunderstanding than for, say, someone who lets their kid die rather than take her to a doctor because 'god will save her if we pray hard enough'.

Oh ! please elaborate on the whole " monkey misunderstanding ".
That sounds very interesting.

I'm betting he uses the tired old "If we come from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" argument.

I'll admit, I find it hysterically funny to hear someone whose belief system dictates that God created man from dirt offended by the idea that we've evolved from earlier simians.

yeah, okay, it seems i need to clarify a few things. first, i am agnostic. second, i am not attacking evolution or defending intelligent design/creationism. third, read what the fuck someone says instead of picking through posts for something to attack.

the monkey thing--a lot of ignorant supporters of evolution believe that evolution means humans came from monkeys or apes. like, you known, chimps. to be fair, a lot of detractors of evolutions believe the same thing. what i was saying is that a supporter of evolution who believes humans came from monkeys is just as stupid as a deeply religious man who believes something crazy and unsupported by his own religious text (like not accepting modern medical help when theyr'e sick).

Well, you don't have to clarify your religious persuasion. I'd still like some clarification on your monkey thing statements.
You get offended to see non-believers bashing believers for believing yet you find it perfectly ok to spout off about " a lot of ignorant supporters of evolution ".
Why is that ?
Do you have some secret evidence that debunks all of human evolutionary theory or are you just a hypocrite?

what the fuck?

reading comprehension much?