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Hillary Is An Abomination

THURSDAY APRIL 24 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Democratic Primary

Yes, I called Hillary Clinton an abomination. I could not be more correct with my description and here is the definition of abomination to prove it:


    Abomination - A*bom`i*na"tion, n.

    That which is abominable; anything hateful, wicked, or shamefully vile; an object or state that excites disgust and hatred; a hateful or shameful vice; pollution.


Fits perfectly. Hillary would, obviously, disagree. A month ago, she compared herself to Rocky.



It’s true. Hillary is Rocky because she is not going to win and she is beating the shit out of Obama, while getting the shit beat out of herself at the same time. Sadly, Rocky and Apollo Creed fought for 15 rounds – a fight length that is now illegal because of the damage done to the fighters.



We are now in round 13, with a couple more horrible, bloody rounds to go. I can only assume Hillary will be holding onto Bill at the end, mumbling, “I did it,” though her grizzled and battered face. Just like Rocky, there will be no knock out and the decision will go to the judges. In this case, they are known as the superdelegates.

This abomination will not give up. Her spinmeisters are running around telling everyone who will listen that Obama is unelectable and can’t win big states. The unelectable argument is moronic because she is behind in delegates and the popular vote. Never thought I’d see someone in second saying the person in first is unelectable. Amazing.

The “big states” argument is equally retarded. Hillary claims Obama can’t win big states in the primary, so he won’t win the general. I guess that would make sense if Hillary were a Republican, but it turns out Democrats are voting for both Hillary and Obama. That means in the general election, Democrats who voted for both would probably vote for Obama. Anyone buying the "big state" argument is wasting their brain and it should be removed from his or her head -- immediately.

Worst of all is the argument Clinton and her supporters are making that no one is actually saying out loud: Obama won’t win big, industrial states because he is black. It’s straight up racism and it’s disgusting, but it’s the claim she is trying to make to superdelegates. If it were true, I’d rather try with the best candidate, who happens to be black, and lose, than toss him to the side for the not-as-good white lady because of racism fears. To choose Clinton for this reason would be morally heinous and I think anyone doing so is scum.

The truth is Clinton’s 9-point victory in Pennsylvania was actually a loss. She needed to win by a 20-point margin to make a serious dent in Obama’s delegate lead. She didn’t. She only gained around 10 delegates out of 158. There are now only 408 delegates remaining in the final primaries. Clinton needs 483 delegates to get the 2024 necessary to win the nomination. See how that might be a problem?

This means the only way Clinton wins the nomination is via superdelegates. But she will need 70% of remaining uncommitted superdelegates to win – if she splits the remaining popular delegates. Which means she has to convince 215 human beings that Obama can’t win the election, even though he has received more votes and popular delegates. That’s 215 people who have to buy the “black guy can’t win” argument. Good luck with that.

And while the Clinton people are at it with the “black guy can’t win” argument, they are going to continue to throw every Republican attack possible at Obama. See, the Clinton peeps have this awesome idea in their heads. They don’t think Obama can handle the Republican attack machine in the general election and to make that point, they are going to attack him like the Republican machine. It’s kind of like an honor killing; we have to kill him to save the family honor.

So, Hillary will continue to hang out with the guy who started the rumor that she killed Vince Foster, and the owner of Fox News, while she praises John McCain. At the same time, she will use all the Republican talking points about Reverand Wright, call Barack an elitist, and point out his connections with the Weather Underground, no matter how tenuous or hypocritical.

She has completely crossed the “vetting Obama” line and is now simply a Republican tool of destruction. If the only way you can win an election is to convince 306 party insiders to overturn the will of the people, and you continue on that path, you are a fucking asshole. It’s already having an effect. Just take a look at Fox’s newest promo.



That’s Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe. Good work, douchebag.

Meanwhile, Obama has done nothing to imply Clinton cannot win the general election. He is only making the case that he is the better candidate. Clinton is dragging them both into the ditch. Her approval rating is plummeting and Obama’s is also slowly slipping.

According to Hillary, she plans to take this "all the way" to the convention, no matter how obvious it become that she is done. MSNBC has declared the popular delegate race over. The New York Times ripped her a new asshole yesterday.


The Low Road to Victory

The Pennsylvania campaign, which produced yet another inconclusive result on Tuesday, was even meaner, more vacuous, more desperate, and more filled with pandering than the mean, vacuous, desperate, pander-filled contests that preceded it.

Voters are getting tired of it; it is demeaning the political process; and it does not work. It is past time for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to acknowledge that the negativity, for which she is mostly responsible, does nothing but harm to her, her opponent, her party and the 2008 election.

If nothing else, self interest should push her in that direction. Mrs. Clinton did not get the big win in Pennsylvania that she needed to challenge the calculus of the Democratic race. It is true that Senator Barack Obama outspent her 2-to-1. But Mrs. Clinton and her advisers should mainly blame themselves, because, as the political operatives say, they went heavily negative and ended up squandering a good part of what was once a 20-point lead.


The most damage being done by Hillary is the fight over Florida and Michigan. She has been making the case to voters in those states that Obama is responsible for their votes not being counted. It is completely untrue, the DNC made the decision, but Obama’s chances of beating McCain in Florida and Michigan have been plummeting, according to polls. Without those states, he has no chance. She is literally killing the Democrats chances of taking the White House.

Which is why she is not Rocky. Sure, Rocky lost to the black guy and both left the ring battered. But Rocky was a lovable character who won by losing. That is not the case with Hillary. A more appropriate comparison would be Jason Voorhees: A horrible, thoughtless, driven killer destroying all in his path. She’s just crisscrossing America with a machete, slashing and killing everything in her path.



Kudos, abomination, kudos.

FearTheReaper thinks Rocky has more impact in Italian and Jason Voorhees is scarier with Nordic death metal.

 

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livertarian

livertarian

Fairfax, VA
February 2008

APR 24, 2008 08:25 PM

FearTheReaper said:

coyotemike said:

bald_eagle said:

DevilsReject said:

flowingmetal said:
Ron Paul would have saved your country.

It doesn't matter which one gets elected, there is no hope now.



WIN! Best Ron Paul joke reference in any serious political thread YET!



What would be even funnier would be if he/she meant it. surreal



Hard to tell, this is the only thing he's ever done on SG



I advise him to never post again.

It's brilliant!



You guys asked for it:

Ron Paul supports decriminalization of all drugs. I approve heartily. What else would make a dent in our national gang violence problem?

He also supports complete withdrawal all all US military from abroad. This would instantly decrease our attractiveness as a target for terrorism.

Abolish the Federal Reserve? Check. Name one reason we need these unelected economists fucking with our money supply, interest rates, and bailing out poorly run banks.

Decentralize and deregulate? Check. I have yet to be persuaded why we need massive federal regulatory oversight, seeing as how these agencies make deals with big businesses, either in their favor or in the interest of the Treasury, but never us shmucks.

He was also the only noticeable candidate to seriously talk about the massive SS/Medicare/Medicaid debt that so many others conveniently ignore.

I will grant that Ron Paul is not slick. His speaking style leaves much to be desired for people who crave the next Kennedy or Reagen. I also don't agree with him on everything. But on the crucial issues, he makes your ponies look like the total phonies/wimps that they truly are.

coyotemike

coyotemike

Tuvalu
May 2006

APR 24, 2008 08:26 PM

larry_sellers said:
I know this website is exactly a cornucopia of political commentary and discussion but reading the same thing week after week really gets old.



Well, there is the "Add a Topic" button at the top, plus being able to submit a story to the newswire by clicking on "News" at the top of the page. Give us your opinons.

coyotemike

coyotemike

Tuvalu
May 2006

APR 24, 2008 08:29 PM

livertarian said:
You guys asked for it:


No, we didn't ask for it. Nobody asked for it.


Ron Paul supports decriminalization of all drugs. I approve heartily. What else would make a dent in our national gang violence problem?

He also supports complete withdrawal all all US military from abroad. This would instantly decrease our attractiveness as a target for terrorism.

Abolish the Federal Reserve? Check. Name one reason we need these unelected economists fucking with our money supply, interest rates, and bailing out poorly run banks.

Decentralize and deregulate? Check. I have yet to be persuaded why we need massive federal regulatory oversight, seeing as how these agencies make deals with big businesses, either in their favor or in the interest of the Treasury, but never us shmucks.

He was also the only noticeable candidate to seriously talk about the massive SS/Medicare/Medicaid debt that so many others conveniently ignore.

I will grant that Ron Paul is not slick. His speaking style leaves much to be desired for people who crave the next Kennedy or Reagen. I also don't agree with him on everything. But on the crucial issues, he makes your ponies look like the total phonies/wimps that they truly are.



bald_eagle

bald_eagle

Indianapolis, IN
November 2006

APR 24, 2008 08:39 PM

coyotemike said:

livertarian said:
You guys asked for it:


No, we didn't ask for it. Nobody asked for it.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Ron Paul supports decriminalization of all drugs. I approve heartily. What else would make a dent in our national gang violence problem?

He also supports complete withdrawal all all US military from abroad. This would instantly decrease our attractiveness as a target for terrorism.

Abolish the Federal Reserve? Check. Name one reason we need these unelected economists fucking with our money supply, interest rates, and bailing out poorly run banks.

Decentralize and deregulate? Check. I have yet to be persuaded why we need massive federal regulatory oversight, seeing as how these agencies make deals with big businesses, either in their favor or in the interest of the Treasury, but never us shmucks.

He was also the only noticeable candidate to seriously talk about the massive SS/Medicare/Medicaid debt that so many others conveniently ignore.

I will grant that Ron Paul is not slick. His speaking style leaves much to be desired for people who crave the next Kennedy or Reagen. I also don't agree with him on everything. But on the crucial issues, he makes your ponies look like the total phonies/wimps that they truly are.




No kidding! In addition to the "Add a topic" button, there's a search function. If you want to resurrect one of the Ron Paul threads, be my guest.

This thread is about Hillary.

... and, uh, fish.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

APR 24, 2008 08:42 PM

coyotemike said:

livertarian said:
You guys asked for it:


No, we didn't ask for it. Nobody asked for it.



You asked for it subconsciously, you know at heart, you love teh ReOVERlution.

livertarian

livertarian

Fairfax, VA
February 2008

APR 24, 2008 08:43 PM

coyotemike said:

No, we didn't ask for it. Nobody asked for it.



You can't handle the truth. No truth handler, you.

coyotemike

coyotemike

Tuvalu
May 2006

APR 24, 2008 08:43 PM

DevilsReject said:

coyotemike said:

livertarian said:
You guys asked for it:


No, we didn't ask for it. Nobody asked for it.



You asked for it subconsciously, you know at heart, you love teh ReOVERlution.



I've got another fish ready, don't make me use it.

coyotemike

coyotemike

Tuvalu
May 2006

APR 24, 2008 08:47 PM

livertarian said:

coyotemike said:

No, we didn't ask for it. Nobody asked for it.



You can't handle the truth. No truth handler, you.



No, I can handle the truth that Ron Paul is full of FAIL.

livertarian

livertarian

Fairfax, VA
February 2008

APR 24, 2008 08:51 PM

bald_eagle said:
No kidding! In addition to the "Add a topic" button, there's a search function. If you want to resurrect one of the Ron Paul threads, be my guest.

This thread is about Hillary.

... and, uh, fish.



I will make the case that I did not invoke RP in this thread. No, that one-poster is not me under another name, I promise.

As for Hillary, I agree with FTR. She has truly become the calculating power-hungry politician she always wanted to be. I love how quickly Obama has crushed her biggest ambition. He looks great compared to her in pretty much every way possible.

livertarian

livertarian

Fairfax, VA
February 2008

APR 24, 2008 08:57 PM

DevilsReject said:

coyotemike said:

livertarian said:
You guys asked for it:


No, we didn't ask for it. Nobody asked for it.



You asked for it subconsciously, you know at heart, you love teh ReOVERlution.



A thought experiment: If Obama supported any of the policies of RP's I listed above, would you then consider it?

It's not out of the question, because Obama has made no statements for or against Fed Reserve policy, for example. And I do like his firm stand on Iraq withdrawal, but perhaps he keeps mum on the more political involvement of the military for campaign reasons.

Kinda meaningless, but what else to post about?

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

Los Angeles, CA

APR 24, 2008 09:04 PM

larry_sellers said:
I'm always amused by FTR's wonderful political insight. Every week I'm on the edge of my seat to see how his latest rip Hillary column any different from all his other ones. With his skills, at telling the same story a different way, if the Eskimos ever run of words for snow, FTR should really be their go-to guy for coming up with some new ones.

I know this website is exactly a cornucopia of political commentary and discussion but reading the same thing week after week really gets old.



So, you keep reading it?

Genius.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

Los Angeles, CA

APR 24, 2008 09:09 PM

livertarian said:

DevilsReject said:

coyotemike said:

livertarian said:
You guys asked for it:


No, we didn't ask for it. Nobody asked for it.



You asked for it subconsciously, you know at heart, you love teh ReOVERlution.



A thought experiment: If Obama supported any of the policies of RP's I listed above, would you then consider it?



No. Aside from drug decriminilization, they are childlike fantasies with no grasp on reality.

livertarian

livertarian

Fairfax, VA
February 2008

APR 24, 2008 09:14 PM

bald_eagle said:
We believe in equality or we don't. A lot of people didn't think we could elect a Catholic in 1960, either.



Interesting tidbit about Kennedy: He tried to wrest control of our money issuance from the Federal Reserve, as a way to both stabilize inflation (he was for the silver standard, as opposed to the Fed no-standard) and to save interest on loans to the gov't from the Fed. His executive order on this is still enforceable, though no President since has tried to run with it. Possibly to avoid assassination? Who knows.

So there. Ron Paul and JFK, in agreement on something. Only real difference is that Ron would have worked on Congress to back it, rather than issue an EO, a power which Kennedy unfortunately abused in general, setting a trend that has culminated in the Executive abuses of late.

livertarian

livertarian

Fairfax, VA
February 2008

APR 24, 2008 09:15 PM

FearTheReaper said:

livertarian said:

DevilsReject said:

coyotemike said:

livertarian said:
You guys asked for it:


No, we didn't ask for it. Nobody asked for it.



You asked for it subconsciously, you know at heart, you love teh ReOVERlution.



A thought experiment: If Obama supported any of the policies of RP's I listed above, would you then consider it?



No. Aside from drug decriminilization, they are childlike fantasies with no grasp on reality.



i hear that a lot. it's a weak argument.

strndniowa

strndniowa

Grimes, IA
May 2007

APR 24, 2008 09:16 PM

bald_eagle said:

coyotemike said:

401kboy said:
trying to be as objective as possible, I believe that the democrats would be best served by choosing a third candidate, and offering both Obama and Clinton some other compensation: majority leader, secretary of state, maybe VP (but I doubt that one).



What? And who would that be?


Ron Paul '08!


Sarcasm- I hope...

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