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Bumblin’ Grandpa Old

The time has come to fear a McCain presidency. Hillary Clinton is doing everything she can to make Barack Obama unelectable, clearing the way for the time worn Senator from Arizona to march into the White House. But over the past few weeks McCain has shown himself to be either a confused old man or a lying sack of shit. Either way, it’s bad news.

Some of the old man’s mistakes have been harmless. For instance, a couple of weeks ago in Israel, he made this blunder while touring the city of Sderot with Israel Defense Minister Ehud Barack.


McCain was discussing the numerous rock attacks on the city. "Nine hundred rocket attacks in less than three months, an average of one every one to two hours. Obviously this puts an enormous and hard to understand strain on the people here, especially the children. As they celebrate their version of Halloween here, they are somewhere close to a 15-second warning, which is the amount of time they have from the time the rocket is launched to get to safety. That's not a way for people to live obviously."


Uh. Purim commemorates a time when the Jewish people living in Persia were saved from execution. So, not at all close. Thank God there was a Jewish guy there to save McCain’s babbling ass.


"I had a brief exchange with one of the mothers whose children was in there in a costume for Purim," Lieberman, who is Jewish and celebrates the holiday, said. "And it's my fault that I said to Senator McCain that this is the Israeli version of Halloween. It is in the sense because the kids dress up and it's a very happy holiday and actually it is in the sense that the sweets are very important of both holidays."


And fail. Joe wants us to believe that he lied to McCain about the holiday. Bullshit. McCain is a crazy old fuck who blurts shit out. This Purim mistake would be no big deal if it weren’t a pattern of an old man fucking up, over and over and over. His best old man or blatant liar moments had to do with Iran and al Qaeda on a recent Middle East trip.

First, in February, he burted out this gem.


And my friends, if we left, they (al-Qaeda) wouldn't be establishing a base. They'd be taking a country, and I'm not going to allow that to happen, my friends. I will not surrender. I will not surrender to al-Qaeda.


Right. Hey, really old man who wants to be president, Iraq is the birthplace of the Shiite religion. Shiites make up the majority of people in Iraq. Shiites and Sunnis hate each other. Al Qaeda are Sunnis. See how your idiotic statement doesn’t work?

But gramps wasn’t done there. A few days later, he blurted out this lie or old man brain misstatement.


Today in Iraq, America and our allies stand on the precipice of winning a major victory against radical Islamic extremism. The security gains over the past year have been dramatic and undeniable. Al Qaeda and Shiite extremists -- with support from external powers such as Iran -- are on the run but not defeated.


Well, not so much. Actually, not at all. See, Iran is controlled by a Shiite government. The Shiites would not fund a Sunni group, like al Qaeda. They are actually enemies. Sorry. You’re either losing your mind or a dirty fucking liar.

Oh, and the “undeniable security gains” turned into a big pile of steaming shit last week. Now, totally deniable security gains.

But John Boy wasn’t done being old or lying just yet. A week later...


It was, he said, "common knowledge and has been reported in the media that al-Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran, that's well known. And it's unfortunate."

He said several times that Iran, a predominately Shiite country, was supplying the mostly Sunni militant group, al-Qaeda.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who was accompanying McCain on the trip, was forced to lean over and whisper in McCain's ear that it was Shiite extremists, not Sunni al-Qaeda, that was going to predominantly Shiite Iran.


Now this moment makes me think gramps wasn’t lying. If it was a lie, Lieberman would have let it go. He didn’t. Gramps doesn’t know who is who, because he is old and losing his mind.


“We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says. I've seen the facts on the ground," the Arizona senator insisted a day after a roadside bomb in Baghdad killed four U.S. soldiers and rockets pounded the U.S.-protected Green Zone there, and a wave of attacks left at least 61 Iraqis dead nationwide.


Really, gramps? Did you take a drive to the Syrian border and stop in Mosul for lunch? Then turn around and head on down to Sunni Ramadi? Maybe take sunset stroll through the city and talk to the peeps? After that, did you grab a Vespa and putter on down to Najaf to see the Shiites? They love us there! But, you know that because you were “on the ground.” I’m sure you then took a nice drive down to Basra to see the oil rich countryside, right? And then, I assume, you hopped on a boat and enjoyed a nice ride up the Tigris to Baghdad? And then your threw on your old fighter plane jacket and strolled the streets of Sadr City, meeting and shaking hands with the good folks? No? Oh, then you don’t know shit. You were a well-protected, isolated asshole who saw what they wanted you to see. That’s why one week after your “we’re succeeding” declaration everything went to shit.

His clueless bullshit has continued and continued. After the recent flare up in Iraq, that left the government of Maliki greatly weakened, McCain continued to spew nonsense.



What a stupid old man. The history of cease-fires is meaningless because we know the truth of this specific instance. Sadr was clearly the victor. The Maliki government went crawling on its knees to Iran, begging them to get Sadr to stop.


The backdrop to Sadr's dramatic statement was a secret trip Friday by Iraqi lawmakers to Qom, Iran's holy city and headquarters for the Iranian clergy who run the country.

There the Iraqi lawmakers held talks with Brig. Gen. Qassem Suleimani, commander of the Qods (Jerusalem) brigades of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps and signed an agreement with Sadr, which formed the basis of his statement Sunday, members of parliament said.

"We asked Iranian officials to help us persuade him that we were not cracking down on the Sadr group," said an Iraqi official, who asked for anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject.


McCain is a fool. He has a profound lack of understanding of the region and its people. His multiple claims over a period of a month that Iran is training al Qaeda is disturbing. It’s like claiming that Republicans are funding and training Democratic candidates. It’s moronic. And this wasn’t a momentary slip, like his campaign would have us believe. He said it over and over and over. Five years into this disaster of a war and McCain doesn’t know the simplest – and most important facts.

This video from yesterday sums it up.



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SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

APR 09, 2008 03:04 PM

Subrosa said:

s5 said:
I'm just not seeing the McCain fear. If Obama gets the nomination, it's not even going to be close in November. Obama is going to wipe the floor with him by every metric, from fundraising to votes to electoral votes.

Think about it. McCain has zero justification for running. What's his story, other than some weird sense of entitlement after losing the nomination in 2000? He has no base, no constituency, no ideas. He's tied to a deeply unpopular war, and he (in his own words) doesn't even understand the economy!

With Obama, you know why he's running. He's the change candidate. He wants to end the war as carefully as we were careless going in. He wants open government. etc. You can sit here and list dozens of ideas that Obama has. What does McCain stand for? Well, who the hell knows? Does McCain even know?

McCain is the "no" to Obama's "yes". Which is just another way of saying that the debate is not on McCain's terms. He's not defining the issues, the Democrats are. Thus, he cannot win.

My theory is that Republicans know that this is a Democratic year no matter what, and they're setting up McCain to fail. The GOP hates McCain, and they'd rather lose with someone they'd rather purge from the party anyway.



I agree with this entirely, except for the last paragraph. I honestly think McCain is the best candidate that they could field (Outside of Giuliani). And he's still going to lose. Badly.



These are not mutually contradictory positions, AFAICT.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

APR 09, 2008 04:12 PM

BlastProcessing said:

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:

You keep believing all your bullshit. Your lack of analytic ability never ceases to amaze.



That's interesting, I some times feel the same about you. I mean seriously, are you not even doing more than the most basic research here? You are aware that the ruling party of Iraq for 30 some odd years was Sunni, aren't you? And then you say something moronic like there's no chance ever of Sunnis running Iraq? It's like you just read the words Sunni, Shiite some where and then when about your making your conclusions with out any idea of the history of the region. That and your writing me of off as just spouting bullshit with no form of a rebuttal what so ever leads me to believe that not only do you lack analytic ability, but that you lack even the willingness to analyze what I've said.



This coming from the guy who's implying that the Ba'athists and the Kurds were on the same side.



I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I was implying that (unless you thought I mean both Sunni Arabs and Sunni Kurds, when I said Sunni. I would hope that it would be obvious enough that that's not what I meant).

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

APR 09, 2008 04:20 PM

FearTheReaper said:

Yeah, I know all that, hence the reason I said "Your lack of analytic ability never ceases to amaze." Having the knowledge and interpreting the knowledge are two very different things. Your analysis of what is happening is moronic.

I studied the region's history in college. I know it extensively.

I write you off because I was done responding to your inane crap a long time ago. You are unworthy of debate.



Well in any case, McCain's definitely more knowledgable about military matters than Barak "Strike Force" Obama.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

APR 09, 2008 05:08 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:

Yeah, I know all that, hence the reason I said "Your lack of analytic ability never ceases to amaze." Having the knowledge and interpreting the knowledge are two very different things. Your analysis of what is happening is moronic.

I studied the region's history in college. I know it extensively.

I write you off because I was done responding to your inane crap a long time ago. You are unworthy of debate.



Well in any case, McCain's definitely more knowledgable about military matters than Barak "Strike Force" Obama.



Yeah, crashing 5 planes and getting captured is a GREAT military record.
Thats the kind of militarily knowledgeable guy I want in the White House.

whatever
Just his presence on Air Force One will probably crash it.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

APR 09, 2008 06:06 PM

Chainlink said:

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:

Yeah, I know all that, hence the reason I said "Your lack of analytic ability never ceases to amaze." Having the knowledge and interpreting the knowledge are two very different things. Your analysis of what is happening is moronic.

I studied the region's history in college. I know it extensively.

I write you off because I was done responding to your inane crap a long time ago. You are unworthy of debate.



Well in any case, McCain's definitely more knowledgable about military matters than Barak "Strike Force" Obama.



Yeah, crashing 5 planes and getting captured is a GREAT military record.
Thats the kind of militarily knowledgeable guy I want in the White House.

whatever
Just his presence on Air Force One will probably crash it.



After reading of his plane crashes, I can say at least 3 of those aren't his fault (the rocket hitting his plane on the carrier deck, his plane getting shot down, and perhaps the engine flame out). I noticed that they merely mentioned the guy with the negative statements as "A former flight instructor." With no rank or ID what so ever.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

APR 09, 2008 06:07 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:

Yeah, I know all that, hence the reason I said "Your lack of analytic ability never ceases to amaze." Having the knowledge and interpreting the knowledge are two very different things. Your analysis of what is happening is moronic.

I studied the region's history in college. I know it extensively.

I write you off because I was done responding to your inane crap a long time ago. You are unworthy of debate.



Well in any case, McCain's definitely more knowledgable about military matters than Barak "Strike Force" Obama.



Yeah, I can tell. Especially the way Obama has been consistently right and McCain wrong. Good fucking point.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

APR 09, 2008 06:12 PM

And just so you understand how fucking completely ignorant you are.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

APR 09, 2008 06:37 PM

FearTheReaper said:
And just so you understand how fucking completely ignorant you are.



Are those date during the 1980's? Because I said the Iranians back the Kurds during the Iran-Iraq War. Like wise, here's a good article on why Iran is supporting Sunni insurgents.

I know don't know about you, but I'm not sure it right for Obama to refer to his Grandmother as typical white person.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

APR 09, 2008 06:49 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:
And just so you understand how fucking completely ignorant you are.



Are those date during the 1980's? Because I said the Iranians back the Kurds during the Iran-Iraq War. Like wise, here's a good article on why Iran is supporting Sunni insurgents.

I know don't know about you, but I'm not sure it was right for Obama to refer to his Grandmother as typical white person.



Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

APR 09, 2008 06:52 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

Chainlink said:

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:

Yeah, I know all that, hence the reason I said "Your lack of analytic ability never ceases to amaze." Having the knowledge and interpreting the knowledge are two very different things. Your analysis of what is happening is moronic.

I studied the region's history in college. I know it extensively.

I write you off because I was done responding to your inane crap a long time ago. You are unworthy of debate.



Well in any case, McCain's definitely more knowledgable about military matters than Barak "Strike Force" Obama.



Yeah, crashing 5 planes and getting captured is a GREAT military record.
Thats the kind of militarily knowledgeable guy I want in the White House.

whatever
Just his presence on Air Force One will probably crash it.



After reading of his plane crashes, I can say at least 3 of those aren't his fault (the rocket hitting his plane on the carrier deck, his plane getting shot down, and perhaps the engine flame out). I noticed that they merely mentioned the guy with the negative statements as "A former flight instructor." With no rank or ID what so ever.



I never even implied it was his fault.
It was his experience.

Practically in it's entirety.
But I agree, it will be great to have a President who really knows how to set one down in the water for all those Mission Accomplished occasions gone wrong.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

APR 09, 2008 07:25 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:
And just so you understand how fucking completely ignorant you are.



Are those date during the 1980's? Because I said the Iranians back the Kurds during the Iran-Iraq War. Like wise, here's a good article on why Iran is supporting Sunni insurgents.



You're just a complete and total moron.

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

APR 09, 2008 07:38 PM

Chainlink said:

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:

Yeah, I know all that, hence the reason I said "Your lack of analytic ability never ceases to amaze." Having the knowledge and interpreting the knowledge are two very different things. Your analysis of what is happening is moronic.

I studied the region's history in college. I know it extensively.

I write you off because I was done responding to your inane crap a long time ago. You are unworthy of debate.



Well in any case, McCain's definitely more knowledgable about military matters than Barak "Strike Force" Obama.



Yeah, crashing 5 planes and getting captured is a GREAT military record.
Thats the kind of militarily knowledgeable guy I want in the White House.

whatever
Just his presence on Air Force One will probably crash it.


I wonder if left-wing 527s will go the swift boat route. I hope not. That's a losing battle. Arguing that McCain's military record is a weakness would probably be the dumbest move ever.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

APR 09, 2008 08:45 PM

ckdexterhaven said:

Chainlink said:

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:

Yeah, I know all that, hence the reason I said "Your lack of analytic ability never ceases to amaze." Having the knowledge and interpreting the knowledge are two very different things. Your analysis of what is happening is moronic.

I studied the region's history in college. I know it extensively.

I write you off because I was done responding to your inane crap a long time ago. You are unworthy of debate.



Well in any case, McCain's definitely more knowledgable about military matters than Barak "Strike Force" Obama.



Yeah, crashing 5 planes and getting captured is a GREAT military record.
Thats the kind of militarily knowledgeable guy I want in the White House.

whatever
Just his presence on Air Force One will probably crash it.


I wonder if left-wing 527s will go the swift boat route. I hope not. That's a losing battle. Arguing that McCain's military record is a weakness would probably be the dumbest move ever.



Yeah. Agreed.
While I personally wouldn't find that record anything to toot about, his sacrifice for his country is nothing short of heroic. I certainly wouldn't suggest making a swift-boatish campaign tactic out of it.
But really, propping him up at some kind of military genius has got to be a losing battle too.
Other than serving as a big patriotic gold feather in his cap I don't find his military experience relative at all to being President.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

APR 10, 2008 03:27 AM

FearTheReaper said:

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:
And just so you understand how fucking completely ignorant you are.



Are those date during the 1980's? Because I said the Iranians back the Kurds during the Iran-Iraq War. Like wise, here's a good article on why Iran is supporting Sunni insurgents.



You're just a complete and total moron.



You know in theory, if I'm a complete and total moron, then making a strong case against anything I have said should be easy, shouldn't it?

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

APR 10, 2008 10:06 AM

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:
And just so you understand how fucking completely ignorant you are.



Are those date during the 1980's? Because I said the Iranians back the Kurds during the Iran-Iraq War. Like wise, here's a good article on why Iran is supporting Sunni insurgents.



You're just a complete and total moron.



You know in theory, if I'm a complete and total moron, then making a strong case against anything I have said should be easy, shouldn't it?



It would. You just wouldn't understand it, which makes it pointless.

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