s5 said:
I'm just not seeing the McCain fear. If Obama gets the nomination, it's not even going to be close in November. Obama is going to wipe the floor with him by every metric, from fundraising to votes to electoral votes.

Think about it. McCain has zero justification for running. What's his story, other than some weird sense of entitlement after losing the nomination in 2000? He has no base, no constituency, no ideas. He's tied to a deeply unpopular war, and he (in his own words) doesn't even understand the economy!

With Obama, you know why he's running. He's the change candidate. He wants to end the war as carefully as we were careless going in. He wants open government. etc. You can sit here and list dozens of ideas that Obama has. What does McCain stand for? Well, who the hell knows? Does McCain even know?

McCain is the "no" to Obama's "yes". Which is just another way of saying that the debate is not on McCain's terms. He's not defining the issues, the Democrats are. Thus, he cannot win.

My theory is that Republicans know that this is a Democratic year no matter what, and they're setting up McCain to fail. The GOP hates McCain, and they'd rather lose with someone they'd rather purge from the party anyway.

Subrosa said:

I agree with this entirely, except for the last paragraph. I honestly think McCain is the best candidate that they could field (Outside of Giuliani). And he's still going to lose. Badly.

FearTheReaper said:
It's like claiming that Republicans are funding and training Democratic candidates. It's moronic.

SergeantPsycho said:
I'll think I'll go point by point this time:

McCain has a sound basis for this claim, as Saddam and the Ba'athist party were primarily Sunni, and acted as a ruling minority, not to mention that, even though Iraqi Sunni's are out numbered by Shi'ites, they can (and have) recieve reinforcements from neighboring Sunni Islamic countries.

The Kurds are primarily Sunni and recieved assistance from the Iranian goverment during the Iran-Iraq war. Likewise, even though they may be enemies, Iran would have something to gain by arming Al-Qaeda: Namely making life difficult for Coalition Forces.

I emphatically disagree, but we've argued this point to death elsewhere.

I'm thinking he's basing his assertion after talking to his son, who recently returned from Iraq.

Again we've argued this to death elsewhere. If Sadr were truely victorious, we'd never hear the end of it, and he'd be releasing video clips and giving speeches to a large audience some where in Iraq. I think the situation is more analagous (can't spell) to beating some one to a bloody pulp for a justifiably good reason, then asking them if they're ready to quit.

FearTheReaper said:

You keep believing all your bullshit. Your lack of analytic ability never ceases to amaze.

LostLucy said:

That is funny!! Thank you! hee hee

McCain so wishes he had the brain of Nixon, and the GOP so wishes Obama was anything like McGovern.

Nope.

401kboy said:

You are right, of course. McGovern had experience in the Senate, and was not afraid to take positions on issues. Obama is a cipher, people are seeing in him what they want to see. And Nixon was intelligent. He was also a paranoid drunk, with a worse temperment than McCain. As for Clinton, she is even starting to LOOK like Humphrey.

Between now and the election stands an event that will make America think we need a wartime consiglieri.

Hooraydiation said:

I actually think McCain is more of a cipher. Some people see him as a maverick Republican willing to butt heads with his own party, and others see him as somebody who can continue the traditions of his party into a new presidency.

Even looking at his record fails to really give you a sense of who he is. The stances he took when running against George W. Bush aren't the same as the stances he's taking now, as a candidate running after George W. Bush.

Frankly, I don't know what the man stands for, and to me he's just there simply because there has to be a Republican candidate.

abbazappa said:
Expect for his positions to start changing now that he has the nomination. McCain is a moderate not a conservative but in order to get the nomination he had to whistle the conservative tune. He will soon start to shift back to being in the middle except the one thing he wont change his position on is Iraq but every thing else who knows how much of a drastic change it will be for the general election.

SergeantPsycho said:

That's interesting, I some times feel the same about you. I mean seriously, are you not even doing more than the most basic research here? You are aware that the ruling party of Iraq for 30 some odd years was Sunni, aren't you? And then you say something moronic like there's no chance ever of Sunnis running Iraq? It's like you just read the words Sunni, Shiite some where and then when about your making your conclusions with out any idea of the history of the region. That and your writing me of off as just spouting bullshit with no form of a rebuttal what so ever leads me to believe that not only do you lack analytic ability, but that you lack even the willingness to analyze what I've said.

SergeantPsycho said:

That's interesting, I some times feel the same about you. I mean seriously, are you not even doing more than the most basic research here? You are aware that the ruling party of Iraq for 30 some odd years was Sunni, aren't you? And then you say something moronic like there's no chance ever of Sunnis running Iraq? It's like you just read the words Sunni, Shiite some where and then when about your making your conclusions with out any idea of the history of the region. That and your writing me of off as just spouting bullshit with no form of a rebuttal what so ever leads me to believe that not only do you lack analytic ability, but that you lack even the willingness to analyze what I've said.