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Bumblin’ Grandpa Old

The time has come to fear a McCain presidency. Hillary Clinton is doing everything she can to make Barack Obama unelectable, clearing the way for the time worn Senator from Arizona to march into the White House. But over the past few weeks McCain has shown himself to be either a confused old man or a lying sack of shit. Either way, it’s bad news.

Some of the old man’s mistakes have been harmless. For instance, a couple of weeks ago in Israel, he made this blunder while touring the city of Sderot with Israel Defense Minister Ehud Barack.


McCain was discussing the numerous rock attacks on the city. "Nine hundred rocket attacks in less than three months, an average of one every one to two hours. Obviously this puts an enormous and hard to understand strain on the people here, especially the children. As they celebrate their version of Halloween here, they are somewhere close to a 15-second warning, which is the amount of time they have from the time the rocket is launched to get to safety. That's not a way for people to live obviously."


Uh. Purim commemorates a time when the Jewish people living in Persia were saved from execution. So, not at all close. Thank God there was a Jewish guy there to save McCain’s babbling ass.


"I had a brief exchange with one of the mothers whose children was in there in a costume for Purim," Lieberman, who is Jewish and celebrates the holiday, said. "And it's my fault that I said to Senator McCain that this is the Israeli version of Halloween. It is in the sense because the kids dress up and it's a very happy holiday and actually it is in the sense that the sweets are very important of both holidays."


And fail. Joe wants us to believe that he lied to McCain about the holiday. Bullshit. McCain is a crazy old fuck who blurts shit out. This Purim mistake would be no big deal if it weren’t a pattern of an old man fucking up, over and over and over. His best old man or blatant liar moments had to do with Iran and al Qaeda on a recent Middle East trip.

First, in February, he burted out this gem.


And my friends, if we left, they (al-Qaeda) wouldn't be establishing a base. They'd be taking a country, and I'm not going to allow that to happen, my friends. I will not surrender. I will not surrender to al-Qaeda.


Right. Hey, really old man who wants to be president, Iraq is the birthplace of the Shiite religion. Shiites make up the majority of people in Iraq. Shiites and Sunnis hate each other. Al Qaeda are Sunnis. See how your idiotic statement doesn’t work?

But gramps wasn’t done there. A few days later, he blurted out this lie or old man brain misstatement.


Today in Iraq, America and our allies stand on the precipice of winning a major victory against radical Islamic extremism. The security gains over the past year have been dramatic and undeniable. Al Qaeda and Shiite extremists -- with support from external powers such as Iran -- are on the run but not defeated.


Well, not so much. Actually, not at all. See, Iran is controlled by a Shiite government. The Shiites would not fund a Sunni group, like al Qaeda. They are actually enemies. Sorry. You’re either losing your mind or a dirty fucking liar.

Oh, and the “undeniable security gains” turned into a big pile of steaming shit last week. Now, totally deniable security gains.

But John Boy wasn’t done being old or lying just yet. A week later...


It was, he said, "common knowledge and has been reported in the media that al-Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran, that's well known. And it's unfortunate."

He said several times that Iran, a predominately Shiite country, was supplying the mostly Sunni militant group, al-Qaeda.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who was accompanying McCain on the trip, was forced to lean over and whisper in McCain's ear that it was Shiite extremists, not Sunni al-Qaeda, that was going to predominantly Shiite Iran.


Now this moment makes me think gramps wasn’t lying. If it was a lie, Lieberman would have let it go. He didn’t. Gramps doesn’t know who is who, because he is old and losing his mind.


“We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says. I've seen the facts on the ground," the Arizona senator insisted a day after a roadside bomb in Baghdad killed four U.S. soldiers and rockets pounded the U.S.-protected Green Zone there, and a wave of attacks left at least 61 Iraqis dead nationwide.


Really, gramps? Did you take a drive to the Syrian border and stop in Mosul for lunch? Then turn around and head on down to Sunni Ramadi? Maybe take sunset stroll through the city and talk to the peeps? After that, did you grab a Vespa and putter on down to Najaf to see the Shiites? They love us there! But, you know that because you were “on the ground.” I’m sure you then took a nice drive down to Basra to see the oil rich countryside, right? And then, I assume, you hopped on a boat and enjoyed a nice ride up the Tigris to Baghdad? And then your threw on your old fighter plane jacket and strolled the streets of Sadr City, meeting and shaking hands with the good folks? No? Oh, then you don’t know shit. You were a well-protected, isolated asshole who saw what they wanted you to see. That’s why one week after your “we’re succeeding” declaration everything went to shit.

His clueless bullshit has continued and continued. After the recent flare up in Iraq, that left the government of Maliki greatly weakened, McCain continued to spew nonsense.



What a stupid old man. The history of cease-fires is meaningless because we know the truth of this specific instance. Sadr was clearly the victor. The Maliki government went crawling on its knees to Iran, begging them to get Sadr to stop.


The backdrop to Sadr's dramatic statement was a secret trip Friday by Iraqi lawmakers to Qom, Iran's holy city and headquarters for the Iranian clergy who run the country.

There the Iraqi lawmakers held talks with Brig. Gen. Qassem Suleimani, commander of the Qods (Jerusalem) brigades of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps and signed an agreement with Sadr, which formed the basis of his statement Sunday, members of parliament said.

"We asked Iranian officials to help us persuade him that we were not cracking down on the Sadr group," said an Iraqi official, who asked for anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject.


McCain is a fool. He has a profound lack of understanding of the region and its people. His multiple claims over a period of a month that Iran is training al Qaeda is disturbing. It’s like claiming that Republicans are funding and training Democratic candidates. It’s moronic. And this wasn’t a momentary slip, like his campaign would have us believe. He said it over and over and over. Five years into this disaster of a war and McCain doesn’t know the simplest – and most important facts.

This video from yesterday sums it up.



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Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

APR 08, 2008 12:38 PM

I was surprised to see no mention of him allegedly calling his wife a trollop and cunt, but I suppose that was kind of a suspect claim without any sources to name beyond anonymous reporters. On top of that, temper is a separate issue anyway.

AkissFromJudas

AkissFromJudas

I'm lost
May 2007

APR 08, 2008 01:05 PM

Its true that al-qaeda officially considers Shiites to be mild blasphemers, and were they in a situation where there was a Western power vacuum, they would surely conduct a "purification" of filthy Shia doctrine and teachings. However, as the latest conflict in Lebanon proved, al-qaeda was willing to put aside religious and political differences to help hezbollah fight Israeli soldiers. They even went public with the support. So, while its true that al-qeada is a strictly sunni wahhabi discipline, crosstraining of shia militants if they are willing to kill americans or jews is occuring as I write this.

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

APR 08, 2008 01:18 PM

What is so hard about watching McCain make all of these small and then not-at-all-small errors, is that this country elected another bumbling idiot twice, instead of honorable and intelligent capable humans.

It is called the GOP machine and ROVE will come back to run it.

The real goal is for some liberals to get the cash, the organization, and the sociopathic cruelty needed to run these issues into the grown. Until they give him a coronary and he can't win anyway.

p.s. has anyone seen condi getting ready to be called? The GOP is thinking this can make a dent in Obama's support just bc she is Black??

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

APR 08, 2008 01:23 PM

LostLucy said:
What is so hard about watching McCain make all of these small and then not-at-all-small errors, is that this country elected another bumbling idiot twice, instead of honorable and intelligent capable humans.

It is called the GOP machine and ROVE will come back to run it.

The real goal is for some liberals to get the cash, the organization, and the sociopathic cruelty needed to run these issues into the grown. Until they give him a coronary and he can't win anyway.

p.s. has anyone seen condi getting ready to be called? The GOP is thinking this can make a dent in Obama's support just bc she is Black??



She keeps denying it.

mingol

mingol

Singapore
July 2005

APR 08, 2008 01:35 PM

Subrosa said:

mingol said:
Those numbers are depressing.


Remember: Dukakis had a 16 point lead over Bush Sr after the primaries. Don't fret. Those numbers are pretty meaningless.


Oh, I know. But still.

Nessuno

Nessuno

Washington, DC
May 2006

APR 08, 2008 01:46 PM

LostLucy said:
p.s. has anyone seen condi getting ready to be called? The GOP is thinking this can make a dent in Obama's support just bc she is Black??



Clearly they misunderstand the nature of Obama's movement. It sounds like they're acting like this is just a black vs. white issue. Or maybe they're just trying to syphon future votes from Obama by whatever means necessary. One could look at this as a 'we're going to need all the help we can get' card.

mingol said:

Subrosa said:

mingol said:
Those numbers are depressing.


Remember: Dukakis had a 16 point lead over Bush Sr after the primaries. Don't fret. Those numbers are pretty meaningless.


Oh, I know. But still.



Americans are superficial and ignorant, by and large, but I too hoped for better than these figures.

I eagerly await Obama trouncing McCain hard in a debate.

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

APR 08, 2008 02:23 PM

Those numbers are within the margin of error, you know. Also, I'm sure the Democratic Party being divided doesn't help things.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

APR 08, 2008 03:50 PM

Nessuno said:

LostLucy said:
p.s. has anyone seen condi getting ready to be called? The GOP is thinking this can make a dent in Obama's support just bc she is Black??



Clearly they misunderstand the nature of Obama's movement. It sounds like they're acting like this is just a black vs. white issue. Or maybe they're just trying to syphon future votes from Obama by whatever means necessary. One could look at this as a 'we're going to need all the help we can get' card.

mingol said:

Subrosa said:

mingol said:
Those numbers are depressing.


Remember: Dukakis had a 16 point lead over Bush Sr after the primaries. Don't fret. Those numbers are pretty meaningless.


Oh, I know. But still.



Americans are superficial and ignorant, by and large, but I too hoped for better than these figures.

I eagerly await Obama trouncing McCain hard in a debate.



as much as i hate to admit it, the GOP would be much better off if the talk of tapping Sarah Palin for VP were true than if the talk about Condi turns out to be so. Palin is the GOP anti-McCain, as she's young, energetic, and very conservative.

so, GOP... please don't pick Palin. go with some old, bumbling idiot to go with your old, bumbling candidate. science knows you've got plenty to choose from.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

APR 08, 2008 05:00 PM

I'll think I'll go point by point this time:


Right. Hey, really old man who wants to be president, Iraq is the birthplace of the Shiite religion. Shiites make up the majority of people in Iraq. Shiites and Sunnis hate each other. Al Qaeda are Sunnis. See how your idiotic statement doesn't work?


McCain has a sound basis for this claim, as Saddam and the Ba'athist party were primarily Sunni, and acted as a ruling minority, not to mention that, even though Iraqi Sunni's are out numbered by Shi'ites, they can (and have) recieve reinforcements from neighboring Sunni Islamic countries.


Well, not so much. Actually, not at all. See, Iran is controlled by a Shiite government. The Shiites would not fund a Sunni group, like al Qaeda. They are actually enemies. Sorry. You're either losing your mind or a dirty fucking liar.


The Kurds are primarily Sunni and recieved assistance from the Iranian goverment during the Iran-Iraq war. Likewise, even though they may be enemies, Iran would have something to gain by arming Al-Qaeda: Namely making life difficult for Coalition Forces.


Oh, and the "undeniable security gains" turned into a big pile of steaming shit last week. Now, totally deniable security gains.


I emphatically disagree, but we've argued this point to death elsewhere.


No? Oh, then you don't know shit. You were a well-protected, isolated asshole who saw what they wanted you to see. That's why one week after your "we're succeeding" declaration everything went to shit.


I'm thinking he's basing his assertion after talking to his son, who recently returned from Iraq.


What a stupid old man. The history of cease-fires is meaningless because we know the truth of this specific instance. Sadr was clearly the victor. The Maliki government went crawling on its knees to Iran, begging them to get Sadr to stop.


Again we've argued this to death elsewhere. If Sadr were truely victorious, we'd never hear the end of it, and he'd be releasing video clips and giving speeches to a large audience some where in Iraq. I think the situation is more analagous (can't spell) to beating some one to a bloody pulp for a justifiably good reason, then asking them if they're ready to quit.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

APR 08, 2008 05:49 PM

SergeantPsycho said:


What a stupid old man. The history of cease-fires is meaningless because we know the truth of this specific instance. Sadr was clearly the victor. The Maliki government went crawling on its knees to Iran, begging them to get Sadr to stop.


Again we've argued this to death elsewhere. If Sadr were truely victorious, we'd never hear the end of it, and he'd be releasing video clips and giving speeches to a large audience some where in Iraq. I think the situation is more analogous (fixed) to beating some one to a bloody pulp for a justifiably good reason, then asking them if they're ready to quit.



Um. Can you cite Iraqi govt videos, speeches, etc. that we never hear the end of? Since you seem to be saying that they won.

Alfaduetto

Alfaduetto

Greeneville, TN
May 2004

APR 08, 2008 06:46 PM

He was bumbly when he was in my Navy, and the Hanoi Hilton finished him off. He has no public speaking ability anyway aside from the diminished mental capacity. When things turn to shit you need an inspirational personality, not a washed up scooter pilot and an "its all about ME" old broad. And I think you will all agree that things have turned to shit.You are correct in saying that Hilary is an eminent spoiler. She'd sink the boat for everybody if she can't steer. I really do think she was largely ignored as a child and has been overcompesating ever since she left home. I still think O's charima can pull him thru the crap slinging, 'cause all Hilary has is a handful of shit and she's not afraid to use it all in the final futile sprint.

s5

s5

STAFF

San Francisco, CA

APR 08, 2008 07:15 PM

I'm just not seeing the McCain fear. If Obama gets the nomination, it's not even going to be close in November. Obama is going to wipe the floor with him by every metric, from fundraising to votes to electoral votes.

Think about it. McCain has zero justification for running. What's his story, other than some weird sense of entitlement after losing the nomination in 2000? He has no base, no constituency, no ideas. He's tied to a deeply unpopular war, and he (in his own words) doesn't even understand the economy!

With Obama, you know why he's running. He's the change candidate. He wants to end the war as carefully as we were careless going in. He wants open government. etc. You can sit here and list dozens of ideas that Obama has. What does McCain stand for? Well, who the hell knows? Does McCain even know?

McCain is the "no" to Obama's "yes". Which is just another way of saying that the debate is not on McCain's terms. He's not defining the issues, the Democrats are. Thus, he cannot win.

My theory is that Republicans know that this is a Democratic year no matter what, and they're setting up McCain to fail. The GOP hates McCain, and they'd rather lose with someone they'd rather purge from the party anyway.

strndniowa

strndniowa

Grimes, IA
May 2007

APR 08, 2008 07:51 PM

My only real objection to the article was the repeated use of !%#@ "old man"...
Other then that, it was pretty much on track...
My only fear is that somehow everything possible will go wrong, and we will somehow end up with Reagan II the revenge...of course while this may be better than Bush II, it still is not what this country, or the world, needs..

401kboy

401kboy

Woodbridge, NJ
May 2007

APR 08, 2008 07:52 PM

I just started rereading Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72, and I find it quite striking that in 36 years nothing has changed. The Democrats are devouring themselves, the Republicans are running a war and increasingly abusing civil liberties, and the media is writing their own narrative that has little to do with important issues.

We have a McGovern (Obama), a Humphrey (Clinton) and a Nixon (McCain). This can't end well.

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

APR 08, 2008 07:56 PM

401kboy said:
I just started rereading Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72, and I find it quite striking that in 36 years nothing has changed. The Democrats are devouring themselves, the Republicans are running a war and increasingly abusing civil liberties, and the media is writing their own narrative that has little to do with important issues.

We have a McGovern (Obama), a Humphrey (Clinton) and a Nixon (McCain). This can't end well.



That is funny!! Thank you! hee hee tongue

McCain so wishes he had the brain of Nixon, and the GOP so wishes Obama was anything like McGovern.

Nope.

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