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More Dumberer Than Potheads

TUESDAY MARCH 25 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By FearTheReaper.

TAGS: Medical marijuana, Barney Frank

Our pot laws in the US are so backwards and idiotic, it is astounding. It is unbelievable that arrests for marijuana violations are actually going up. But it seems everywhere you look, the US has its priorities completely backwards. We are some seriously stupid motherfuckers. But that all may change because of a fat, gay guy from Massachusetts named Barney Frank.

I’m for the legalization of all drugs. People are going to get them anyway, so there is no point in keeping them illegal. When I was growing up, I had no problem getting my hands on pot, magic mushrooms, LSD, cocaine, speed, or anything else I wanted. It is my understanding that heroin and meth have now been added to the list of easy access drugs. For me they were all one phone call away, or they would come to me at a party, or football game – hell, one time I got my drugs in a high school Spanish class. Muy bueno! The point is, if you want drugs, you can get drugs - especially pot.

Pot is the least dangerous drug out there, but the government keeps cracking down.


Police arrested a record 829,625 persons for marijuana violations in 2006, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, released today. This is the largest total number of annual arrests for pot ever recorded by the FBI. Marijuana arrests now comprise nearly 44 percent of all drug arrests in the United States.


The government is seriously stupider than stoners. In the past 15 years, pot arrests have gone up 188%. You’d think the government would have something better to do, like sit around and diddle their balls. Or maybe they could punch themselves in the face. I would rather my tax dollars pay for that. The last thing I want happening is people, like Mary Ann from “Gilligan’s Island,” getting arrested.


Dawn Wells, who played Mary Ann on "Gilligan's Island," is serving six months' unsupervised probation after allegedly being caught with marijuana in her car.


WTF? That poor woman was stuck on an island with a bunch of retards for years. Dawn should always be high. She should wear a glass helmet with a tube attached that constantly feeds pot into her poor brain. By the way, awesome mug shot, burnout.

Six months probation doesn’t sound bad, but for many people it’s not just about the sentence. Their lives can be turned upside down.


Sanctions triggered by a marijuana conviction can include loss of access to food stamps, public housing, and student financial aid, as well as driver's license suspensions, loss of or ineligibility for professional licenses, other barriers to employment or promotion, and bars to adoption, voting, and jury service.


My wife is a therapist. If she smoked pot and was caught, she would lose her license to practice. The punishment for smoking a natural plant does not fit the crime – it more fits the crime of murder. If I were a student who lost his financial aide and was looking at a life working at Home Depot, I would go on a shooting spree. The California Supreme Court recently ruled that employees could be fired for smoking pot, even if it has nothing to do with the job.


The California Supreme Court weakened the effect of the state's beleaguered medical marijuana law, ruling Thursday that employers may fire workers for using physician-recommended marijuana while off duty, even if it did not hurt their job performance.


The pot laws vary from state to state. 12 states have passed medical marijuana laws. California passed a medical marijuana law in 1996. Now we have pot stores and even pot vending machines. But that does not stop the Federal Government from raiding our pot stores, because George Bush has a serious hard on for pot.


The gap between state and federal drug laws became apparent again Wednesday when federal agents raided 10 local medical marijuana facilities only minutes after the Los Angeles City Council placed a moratorium on new facilities so rules could be drafted to better regulate them.


And it doesn’t help that in 2005 the douchebags on the Supreme Court ruled that the Feds could overrule state pot laws.


The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday ruled doctors can be blocked from prescribing marijuana for patients suffering from pain caused by cancer or other serious illnesses.

In a 6-3 vote, the justices ruled the Bush administration can block the backyard cultivation of pot for personal use, because such use has broader social and financial implications.


Sweet. I know one of the “broader implications” is that people will be more relaxed. And more video games will be played. And quite a few more lemons may be stared at for over 10 minutes. Oh, and shows like Two and A Half Men may actually be somewhat tolerable. Actually, strike that. The creators of Two and A Half Men should be murdered.

As far as the “financial implications,” as a country we spend $7.5 billion annually enforcing pot laws. And that doesn’t include taking care of the poor fuckers who are in jail. Maybe we should act like adults, legalize pot and rake in the taxes from all the herb that would be legally sold. Hell, we could probably fund universal health care with the tax profits.

Thankfully, Barney Frank is on the case.


Rep. Barney Frank said he plans to file a bill to legalize "small amounts" of marijuana.

Frank announced his plans late Friday on the HBO show "Real Time," hosted by Bill Maher.

"I'm going to file a bill as soon as we go back to remove all federal penalties for the possession or use of small amounts of marijuana," Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat, told Maher.





That would be awesome. It will never happen, but it sounds awesome. For whatever reason, America likes to cater to the most retarded amongst us – which turns out to be most of us. Although, we have been moving slowly towards legalization over the years.

Of course, the vast majority of people arrested for smoking pot are minorities – even though the rates of marijuana use are the same for whites and people who are not whites. Plus, we do like to keep our black people in jail and pot makes that easy.


Since it started in 1970, American law enforcement has arrested 38 million people for nonviolent drug offenses, nearly 2 million last year alone. The number of people jailed for violent crimes has risen 300 percent, but the prison population of nonviolent drug offenders has soared 2,558 percent.


Thank God. All those people were getting high and not doing anything wrong. Motherfuckers. Nothing is more infuriating than a guy going to a park and getting high. You may as well shit on the baby Jesus. An influential physician group recently called for pot to be declassified as a “Schedule I” drug.


The American College of Physicians, the nation's largest organization of doctors of internal medicine, with 124,000 members, contends that the long and rancorous debate over marijuana legalization has obscured good science that has demonstrated the benefits and medicinal promise of cannabis.

The group calls on the government to drop marijuana from Schedule I, a classification it shares with illegal drugs such as heroin and LSD that are considered to have no medicinal value and a high likelihood of abuse.


Holy shit. Pot is classified the same as heroin? Why not classify murder the same as trespassing? How about classifying rape the same as jaywalking? The people who first made pot illegal should be beaten about the head with a large wooden object. If they are dead, they should be dug up and set on fire. But they won’t be, because they have made billions of dollars keeping pot illegal. Plus, it would be weird to dig up a body and set it on fire. And I doubt anyone would understand the political statement. By the way, “They” are people like Du Pont and Hearst.

Corporations like Du Pont and industrialists like William Randolph Hearst were concerned that hemp would cut into their pulpwood paper and synthetic products profits. So, they launched a campaign.

In the '30s, Du Pont had just patented a new process for making pulpwood paper and was working on something called “nylon.” Du Pont financial backer and US Secretary of Treasury Andrew Mellon made sure his nephew was in charge of the new Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. They combined with the Hearst newspaper business to create the new monster: Pot. Then came the "Marihuana Tax Act of 1937,” which was the end. Yay big business.

It’s amazing Barney Frank is actually going to introduce legislation to legalize small amounts of pot. It has no chance, especially in an election year, because the majority our politicians are spineless creatures, with no ability to take a strong stand. We are basically represented by sea cucumbers.

Even everyone’s great hope, Barack Obama, won’t come out for medical marijuana. He did a few months ago, but then recently backed off.


When a voter asked Obama if he was for the legalization of medical marijuana, Obama said that he wasn't in favor of legalization without scientific evidence and tight controls. Citing his mother who died from cancer young, Obama compared marijuana to morphine saying there was little difference between the two.


Really? Because I’ve experienced both and I’m going to go ahead and say there’s a huge fucking difference. Morphine is the great “pain go bye-bye.” Pot is, “hey, shit is weird.” And Obama’s statement that he can’t favor “legalization without scientific evidence” is pure bullshit. There is loads of scientific evidence that pot aids in the treatment of health ailments. And even if there wasn't, who gives a shit? Hemp and pot were a big part of the early days of America.

Both George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew marijuana, and smoked it. Today, they’d be locked up in jail.


"If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson


Whatever, hippy.

Let’s hope Barney Frank gets somewhere with his legislation. But I seriously doubt anything is going to happen. Because we are morons.

 

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edith

edith

France
April 2006

MAR 27, 2008 01:56 AM

i guess you never had ADD.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

MAR 27, 2008 02:38 AM

Stiles said:

TheRedBaron said:

What on earth would heroin and meth be prescribed for?



Methamphetamine was widely given to German tank and plane crews during WWII to increase alertness and stamina. Meth was also widely prescribed in America in the 1950s for narcolepsy, alcoholism, as an antidepressant and the most popular use, for weight control.

"Mother's little helper", anyone?

Meth is currently available for prescription in the US under the trade name Desoxyn, made by Ovation Pharma. Good luck getting a doctor to prescribe it...

Heroin was first commercially synthesized by Bayer (yes, that Bayer) and sold in the US from 1898 to 1924, the date the US banned it.



Amphetamines also to RAF pilots, certainly during 1944-5.

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Mokena, IL
January 2005

MAR 27, 2008 05:21 AM

BellyJack said:
Don't know about meth, but the US military still supplies Dexedrine to Air Force personnel during long duration flights, and made this and other stimulants available to our troops since at least WWII for just about the same reasons as the Germans.

Defense Tech has an interesting article on BZ (aka "Buzz", aka 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate), which is an extremely powerful incapacitating agent with a whole range of activity including severe hallucinations, dry mouth, flushing, and increased heart rate typical of anticholinergics (think - Jimson weed on steroids) except it has a relatively low toxicity, can be delivered in aerosol form, and is virtually undetectable.

This is some bad-ass stuff, especially since there is evidence those affected by it can share the same illusions.



I could swear I remember reading an article about the US government testing out giving soldiers MDMA. I can't remember the validity or context of the article though.

Cremon

Cremon

Marietta, GA
April 2003

MAR 27, 2008 06:54 AM

I always find your articles very thought provoking. I very rarely agree with you, but I always read your articles because I'm compelled to explore other points of view. You're an activist and I respect that and I love being challenged by reading your posts. Some of them enrage me when I disagree (which is about 70% of the time, with all due respect), and a few force me to re examine my own point of view. You have a talent for pissing me off to a degree that few can match. I call you names, scream "how can he possibly take that fucking point of view!" and shake my head, etc. I never post my disagreements because getting into pissing contests is juvenile as hell, and fuck, it's free speech and we can't all agree all the time. But dude, I love the way you write. I am extremely impressed at the lengths you go in your research.

That said, in THIS post, I have to agree with you. All these laws over pot are blue laws. It's all a crock of shit and the reason it's still illegal is due to the political kow-towing of vote seeking politicians endeavoring to appease a paranoid segment of the population whose numbers can't even be guessed at, but thankfully diminish EVERY day.

All I can say is - yes it sucks - but the days where pot is illegal are numbered. It won't happen soon enough for a lot of us, but it will happen.

To those who say it should stay illegal - you sound like the fucking ACLU. Yeah, lets take freedoms AWAY from people because some just can't seem to manage their lives when they get high. That's their choice. Go ahead and criticize people who can't get jobs because they are stoned all the time, you have that right, but don't make it illegal so NO one can have access to it for that reason. The mentality that something should be forbidden by law because a small segment of people can't handle the responsibility is nothing more than "father knows best" politics.



SarahFlower

SarahFlower

USA
September 2007

MAR 27, 2008 12:46 PM

I say legalise it. But I guess that would make too much sense.

BellyJack

BellyJack

I'm lost
May 2005

MAR 27, 2008 08:12 PM

fountainofdreams said:

BellyJack said:
Don't know about meth, but the US military still supplies Dexedrine to Air Force personnel during long duration flights, and made this and other stimulants available to our troops since at least WWII for just about the same reasons as the Germans.

Defense Tech has an interesting article on BZ (aka "Buzz", aka 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate), which is an extremely powerful incapacitating agent with a whole range of activity including severe hallucinations, dry mouth, flushing, and increased heart rate typical of anticholinergics (think - Jimson weed on steroids) except it has a relatively low toxicity, can be delivered in aerosol form, and is virtually undetectable.

This is some bad-ass stuff, especially since there is evidence those affected by it can share the same illusions.



I could swear I remember reading an article about the US government testing out giving soldiers MDMA. I can't remember the validity or context of the article though.



It is impossible to be certain since much of the paper trail was ordered destroyed in 1973 by CIA chief Richard Helms, but the US government apparently had an extensive program called MK Ultra, and they likely would have been involved in such shenanigans.

The military did experiment with MDMA's close cousin MDA using the designation "EA-1298", so it wouldn't surprise me if MDMA wasn't tested as well.

Merry Prankster Ken Kesey, author of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, volunteered for MKULTRA experiments while a student at Stanford University. Kesey's ingestion of LSD during these experiments led directly to his widespread promotion of the drug and the subsequent development of hippie culture.



As related in the Wikipedia reference above I've always found this bit of recursive karma a particularly humorous tidbit of societal jujitsu.

IrFu

IrFu

Loxley, AL
December 2006

MAR 28, 2008 06:09 AM

livertarian said:
Our drug laws are both immoral and illogical. I think that was the point of this article. What was your point again? Everything is cool? Fuck innocent people with addictions? Screw people who just like to get high after work? What was your stance on alcohol, by the way?

I am fine with dissent, but your flip dismissal of a thoughtful argument makes me want to to expose you as a hypocrite.



Illogical sometimes, I agree, but immoral?? I chose not to make an argument because (1) I've learned FTR is never wrong and (2) people who make this "legalize it" argument never consider the subject through the eyes of families hurt by drugs.

Yes, the laws are fine as they are; I care about people with addictions, but legalizing anything doesn't help; yes, I don't care about people who just want to get high after work. I don't drink alcohol, I think its a horrible drug, and I think the country would be better off if it was able to be kept illegal. However, like this pot issue, I realize the laws are what they are, and the people want it this way. I will always make an argument for why alcohol is bad, but you'll never see me wasting time in Washington to change the law - like Mr. Barney Frank.

IrFu

IrFu

Loxley, AL
December 2006

MAR 28, 2008 06:23 AM

FearTheReaper said:
Thanks, ALCOHOL was a great comparison. I can only assume you believe alcohol should be illegal, due to the above retarded comment.



Are we still doing the name calling thing, FTR?? I don't drink, I think if the country was successful in prohibition, back in the day, I think we'd be better for it. But since not, I see no point in changing the law.

FearTheReaper
I have no interest in sustaining a "logical argument" with a someone who actually is pathetic enough to use the "love it or leave it" cliche. You < Me.



FTR, you're no better than I with your "they're going to do it anyway" cliche. Thats not only illogical, its immature, I know high schoolers who make that type of argument.

FearTheReaper
Sorry, I made an assumption based on your stupid arguments.



Sounds like the same mistake I made assuming you used pot based on your sophomoric argument.

IrFu

IrFu

Loxley, AL
December 2006

MAR 28, 2008 06:26 AM

IrFu said:

FearTheReaper said:
Thanks, ALCOHOL was a great comparison. I can only assume you believe alcohol should be illegal, due to the above retarded comment.



Are we still doing the name calling thing, FTR?? I don't drink, I think if the country was successful in prohibition, back in the day, I think we'd be better for it. But since not, I see no point in changing the law.

FearTheReaper
I have no interest in sustaining a "logical argument" with a someone who actually is pathetic enough to use the "love it or leave it" cliche. You < Me.



FTR, you're no better than I with your "they're going to do it anyway" cliche. Thats not only illogical, its immature, I know high schoolers who make that same type of argument.

FearTheReaper
Sorry, I made an assumption based on your stupid arguments.



Sounds like the same mistake I made assuming you used pot based on your sophomoric argument.



Calypso

Calypso

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 29, 2008 07:16 PM

Ah, fuck. I have to be honest and say that I don't believe this is a topic that will ever see a resolution.

I, myself, am I noob. I started smoking 2-3 months ago, and it certainly wasn't the big deal that I made it out to be. It's served wonderfully as a pain killer, a relaxant, and, um, a "mood enhancer." I get outrageously horny when I smoke.

Despite the fact that I'm new to pot, I've always been an advocate for legalization. Even as a child, it never made sense to me that something safe and natural should be outlawed.

It's funny to think that in our ever-so-progressive America, a law that sprung from racism still holds sway.

bigherm420

bigherm420

Philadelphia, PA
March 2008

MAR 31, 2008 01:23 PM

Police arrested a record 829,625 persons for marijuana violations in 2006....
I feel you on that one.... i was one of those arrested in '06... a bullshit charge by some suburban cops with nothing better to do... i might also mention that while the 4 cops and 1 dog it took to take down a hardened criminal like myself a local clerk was shot and robbed... i know this because unlike the supercops that arrested me i was paying attention to the police scanner...
enough is enough... it's time for some reform in this great land of ours...

Jack_Straw

Jack_Straw

Fairbanks, AK
December 2004

MAR 31, 2008 05:54 PM

Cash said:
I'm for legalizing anything in its natural state. I think it's completely moronic that I can smoke a tobacco plant but not a marijuana plant. I can chew mint leaves but not cocoa leaves.



Growing your own tobacco is ALSO illegal in the US. Big business affecting our rights? go figure

georgiah

georgiah

Tupelo, MS
March 2006

APR 01, 2008 12:58 AM

yeah, the whole Schedule I thing is completely ridiculous. People get way more f'd up on a bunch of, say, Xanax bars and have far more chance of hurting themselves or others, in my opinion. People walk in to the Pharmacy (where I work) and can't even count out bills they are so gone on their Valium, Xanax, or what have you.
Yeah, pot makes you a little loopy, but at least folks on pot are usually pretty chill.
Not to mention freakin' adderall and oxycodone are only a Schedule II. I have tried some things and I can say that there are a lot of other things than pot that could get me way more gone.
And yeah, pot and cocaine in the same category... Anyone with half a brain should know that is some completely dumb shit!

Oh, just a tidbit... Marinol is actually only a schedule... four, I believe. Could be a three, but i KNOW it's not a two...
Go figure...

livertarian

livertarian

Fairfax, VA
February 2008

APR 01, 2008 10:53 AM

coyotemike said:
Wow. This thread has really made it easy to tell who is toking up just on occasion and who has made it part of their daily schedule. Amazing tongue



It's just a daily scheduled occasion for me.

jessferfun

jessferfun

San Francisco, CA
May 2003

APR 01, 2008 11:10 AM

FUCK Richard Nixon. for creating the DEA and for classifying ganja at the top of the dangerous drug list. Richard, you were a paranoid insecure cocksucker. we hated you because you were a horribly corrupt lying president (*cough-Bush!), not because we were smoking herb. Rest in Hell. mad

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