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THURSDAY MARCH 20 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Barack Obama, Jeremiah Wright, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, John Hagee

America seems to be in a lot of trouble. We have a possible Democratic presidential candidate who has been spiritually mentored by a black pastor who is clearly a madman. Obama�s pastor, Jeremiah Wright, actually said things out loud that any true American would never agree with. This is unparalleled in American history and we should now be very suspicious of Senator Obama.

For those of you unaware of Wright�s horrifying �hate speech,� here is a sample.

This is disturbing. I cannot believe any politician would be associated with a man who uses such hateful language. Never in the history of America have we faced such a troubling situation. We have a long history of compassionate and loving religious leaders influencing our political leaders.

It seems like just yesterday that the kind and wonderful Religious Right leader Francis Schaeffer was delivering his loving words to America.

There does come a time when force, even physical force, is appropriate...This brings us to a current issue that is crucial for the future of the church in the United States, the issue of abortion... It is time we consciously realize that when any office commands what is contrary to God's law it abrogates its authority. And our loyalty to the God who gave this law then requires that we make the appropriate response in that situation...

God bless him and his sweet call for the violent overthrow of the US government. Years of making these types of comments got Francis invited to lunch with Presidents Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford and George Bush Sr. � as he should have been. He was a true American.

Wright�s comments, on the other hand, are inexcusable, especially when compared with some of our nation�s greatest spiritual leaders, like Pat Robertson.

If I could just get a nuclear device inside Foggy Bottom, I think that's the answer. We've got to blow that thing up.

He was right, of course. Foggy Bottom is the nickname for the State Department�s DC headquarters. Pat knows that the State Department has spent years trying to kill us and therefore, should be annihilated with a nuclear weapon. God bless him for his kind and understanding heart.

Comments like this are the reason George W. Bush relied on Pat Robertson as a trusted consultant. And we should be thankful that he did so, unlike the horrible Jeremiah Wright, who clearly hates America. See, President Bush understands that Pat does not have a hateful bone in his body. The nuclear weapon Pat spoke of was made by Jesus. He only wants what is right for our country and the people living on her soil.

"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." �Pat Robertson, on "gay days" at Disneyworld.

Pat is just carrying on the tradition of warmhearted American spiritual leaders. The recently departed Reverend Jerry Falwell was another great man of God. After 9/11 he helped to heal our nation.

The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.

God bless you, Reverend Falwell -- and Pat Robertson for agreeing. Statements like this are the reason Falwell had an open line to the White House and called whenever he wanted.

Falwell's passing was a great loss, according to our political leaders.

John McCain

I join the students, faculty, and staff of Liberty University and Americans of all faiths in mourning the loss of Reverend Jerry Falwell. Dr. Falwell was a man of distinguished accomplishment who devoted his life to serving his faith and country.

George W. Bush

A man who cherished faith, family, and freedom. As the founder of Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg, Virginia, Jerry lived a life of faith and called upon men and women of all backgrounds to believe in God and serve their communities.

Yes, indeed. George even sought the advice of his "loyal friend" Jerry when selecting Supreme Court nominees.

John McCain�s has a new friend, pastor John Hagee, who has often expressed his Jesus-like views of the Katrina disaster.

All hurricanes are acts of God because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.

Bless you, John Hagee, that is exactly why you have "the ear of the White House." You embody the spirit of Jesus and American patriotism.

"Could it be that America, who refuses to defend Israel from the Russian invasion, will experience nuclear warfare on our east and west coasts?" He says yes, citing Genesis 12:3, in which God said to Israel: "I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you."

Preach on, brother! Clearly the man loves America, because he says the liberal coasts will experience nuclear warfare. That�s patriotism. Hateful Jeremiah Wright could learn something from love filled John Hagee.

Jeremiah Wright�s language is so hateful that I can barely contain myself. How dare anybody know him! Look at this drivel.

The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.

We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.

We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.

It�s not the kind of speech we are used to hearing from our white, white, and very white ministers. It doesn�t include the usual simplistic attack on a minority because of their sexuality. Nor does it justify the deaths of thousands because of their ideology. Wright does not call for the death of American citizens living on the coasts of America and he doesn�t hope for the nuclear destruction of a department of the US government. What a jerk.

Wright has the gall to suggest that there is a link between the United State�s bombing of or meddling in other countries, and the desire of fanatics to attack America. The last thing America wants is to hear someone speak the truth. For God�s sake, the man is saying there is a cause and effect relationship. BUT HE�S NOT BLAMING QUEERS! Didn�t he get the fucking memo? God lets terrorists kill us because men are putting their penises in other men�s bottoms.

Here are the things Jesus hates:

That's it. Anything not on that list, Jesus does not hate. Those are the subjects our spiritual leaders are allowed to cover. Or, at least our white religious leaders.

This entire �controversy� never would have erupted if Wright was a white man. That is so fucking obvious � and if you don�t think so, then you are a moron. This is white America getting angry at an uppity black man. This is the side of the US that whites would like very much to keep hidden away, out of view. Angry blacks are supposed to shoot and murder, not speak in ways that force us to think. This is the kind of shit that makes us look at ourselves and we don�t like it. That�s two hundred years of justifiable anger. A lot of people thought they were getting a nice house Negro in Obama, but now they find out he's been hanging out with the angry field Negroes. And they lost their minds. The hypocritical reaction of those who give the Robertsons of the world a pass is sickening.

God damn America is right.

The Republicans idiots will continue to hammer this point home, even after what may have been the best speech in modern politics two days ago. They will ignore the vile hate spewing out of the mouths of their insane religious leaders and continue their constant attacks on Wright. And no �journalist� will ever call if for the obvious racist attack it is. Because this America -- and we have the worst media in the free world.

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mattacme

Calistoga, CA

February 2006

MAR 20, 2008 02:38 PM

46n2 said:

mattacme said:

46n2 said:

mattacme said:

Oh, these news clowns are really funny! Is there any way that this ministers words are on the same inflammatory level as ANY of the fundamentalist christian nutjobs? They really are grasping at anything. I guess that they are still scared of all these negros.

I haven't seen in the last 20 years a president calling his pastor his "mentor" and "like family" who so blantaly spouts of this racial rhetoric. I will again refer to Obama's speech in which he is the one stating "Words matter" and yes they do. I don't think Obama should be out of the running for president because of Rev. Wright it just that how close they are is the concern and he didn't do much to assure me that he doesn't think along the same lines as his pastor.

Reasonably put.

I recall that in 1959 there were lots of people who would not vote for Kennedy because he was catholic and that his presidency would surely be like having the pope in the white house. I think Senator Obama's legislative work speaks most clearly as to his thinking. His actions have certainly not been in lock step with Rev. Wright.

With all due respect to your stated political neutrality your comments in this thread sound pretty nationalistic if not thinly veiled neocon. Thats just me but its what I am picking up.

I guess I won't write more because people are picking a sentence to comment on without the whole and making it sound different. I didn't state neutratility. I said that both dems. and reps. are out for their own private gain and I don't trust them so I can't say I'm either. I guess I am a little nationalistic in that in order to save the country you must respect it ... not tear down at every opporunity. We as Americans are lucky to have been born here and be able to even speak so openly about these things. I'm certainly glad, being a woman, I wasn't born in a radical Muslim country where I'd be shrouded in a burka and married off without my consent. haha, just getting aggrivated because I subscribed to this site for the girls but when I get on the main page I have this rhetoric pushed in my face which wasn't the deal when I paid for the subscription. That was actually what got under my skin most.

Sorry you are choosing to disengage because you are being targeted. It seems odd because you are being pretty aggressive towards others with what you yourself have written. I should think that you would be able to take it if you were going to dish it out. By the way, no one is insisting that you read or comment on anything on this site that you do not like. I would recommend that if you have a complaint with content that you bring it up with the webmaster.

I stand corrected regarding your party stance.

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH

February 2007

MAR 20, 2008 02:39 PM

smithers_jones said:

devoteeed said:
If you're white, Wright thinks you are a racist.

Citation please.

duh, didn't you read?

I've (a) worked on a black political campaign (b) worked as a minority with all black bosses (c) dated black women (d) lived as roomates with blacks.
Has anyone (white) above done this? Despite this, Wright would call me racist. I mentioned this list to show my extensive experience with blacks and that I'm not just talking from a place where I've had only surface contacts.

He's got personal truthful experience on his side! He doesn't need any of your silly citations.

mamet

Charleston, SC

March 2005

MAR 20, 2008 02:40 PM

devoteeed said:
If you're white, Wright thinks you are a racist. Can you handle that - the whites that have commented here!

To me there is no difference between Wright and Jesse Helms.

I don't know how a poll showing Clinton in the lead via popular vote is "political bs."

Wright is not blaming rich white people for American blacks' problems - he is blaming any white person, from the homeless to the professors to the college students to the teenagers to corporation heads.

I've (a) worked on a black political campaign (b) worked as a minority with all black bosses (c) dated black women (d) lived as roomates with blacks.
Has anyone (white) above done this? Despite this, Wright would call me racist. I mentioned this list to show my extensive experience with blacks and that I'm not just talking from a place where I've had only surface contacts.

Race is central to most blacks understanding of the world; it explains everything from low test scores to poverty to health. The conspiratorial nature of preachers like Wright go right along with droves of blacks to give up. Why try if whitey has it out for me? Why try hard in school (and then be ostracized - I see this happen everyday in the public schools I work in - such students are called "white" the worst insult imaginable)? Why stop having kids while teenagers? Why stop running away from said kids if you are the father? The deck is stacked way against you. Why give up on fighting the lure of gangs? There's no way for you to succeed.

It was that way in Jim Crow, the 50s and 60s in many places in the South particularly. But now in my Southern city, there is a black county manager, there has been a black mayor, a black superintendant of schools, currently a black director of libraries and I know many minorities have very high positions in banks. These are just some examples. The biggest problem with racial hatred as preached by Wright is that it is simply a misperception about what is really happening in 2008. And it bugs me that while Obama may not believe all of the "stupid" (Obama's quote) things Wright said, he will be forced to have people who are like Wright -- most black people unfortunately- in his administration.

Most white people have no idea about the racial hatred preached in black churches. I remember it surfacing during the OJ trials that some black preachers still referred to whites - not some, not just rich ones, but ALL whites (including the peops) here as devils. This is ridiculous and I won't stand for it and I won't back down to those who fight this reasoning because it is not PC.

So I'm just waiting here for the angry emoticons and the vomit ones too. Maybe just maybe one person will read this and think there is some truth in what I say.

Do you have a source for any of the drivel you just spouted? Where are these racist, white-hating preachers? Where did Wright claim he blames all white people for the plight of black Americans? Because that's certainly not what I got out of those videos.

BlastProcessing

Knoxville, TN

OLD SKOOL

MAR 20, 2008 02:43 PM

devoteeed said:
If you're white, Wright thinks you are a racist. Can you handle that - the whites that have commented here!

Cite this claim.

To me there is no difference between Wright and Jesse Helms.

One had an electorate to which he was beholden, one doesn't.

I don't know how a poll showing Clinton in the lead via popular vote is "political bs."

A poll showing what now? Polls don't determine the popular vote. Votes do, and the last time I checked, Obama leads in the popular vote, too.

Wright is not blaming rich white people for American blacks' problems - he is blaming any white person, from the homeless to the professors to the college students to the teenagers to corporation heads.

You must have heard a different sermon than the one I heard. Care to cite that, too?

Wright doesn't post on this board. If he did, I wonder if he'd bring up the unimportance of anecdotal bullshit.

Race is central to most blacks understanding of the world; it explains everything from low test scores to poverty to health. The conspiratorial nature of preachers like Wright go right along with droves of blacks to give up. Why try if whitey has it out for me? Why try hard in school (and then be ostracized - I see this happen everyday in the public schools I work in - such students are called "white" the worst insult imaginable)? Why stop having kids while teenagers? Why stop running away from said kids if you are the father? The deck is stacked way against you. Why give up on fighting the lure of gangs? There's no way for you to succeed.

It was that way in Jim Crow, the 50s and 60s in many places in the South particularly. But now in my Southern city, there is a black county manager, there has been a black mayor, a black superintendant of schools, currently a black director of libraries and I know many minorities have very high positions in banks. These are just some examples. The biggest problem with racial hatred as preached by Wright is that it is simply a misperception about what is really happening in 2008. And it bugs me that while Obama may not believe all of the "stupid" (Obama's quote) things Wright said, he will be forced to have people who are like Wright -- most black people unfortunately- in his administration.

Most white people have no idea about the racial hatred preached in black churches. I remember it surfacing during the OJ trials that some black preachers still referred to whites - not some, not just rich ones, but ALL whites (including the peops) here as devils. This is ridiculous and I won't stand for it and I won't back down to those who fight this reasoning because it is not PC.

...wow. I didn't realize when I started reading this exactly how far down into your own personal racist rhetoric you would sink. Congratulations on that one.

So I'm just waiting here for the angry emoticons and the vomit ones too. Maybe just maybe one person will read this and think there is some truth in what I say.

Welcome to CE! You're a blithering idiot.

willam9

Philadelphia, PA

January 2008

MAR 20, 2008 02:46 PM

46n2 said:
Oh, and I'm so super excited about standardized and nationwide healthcare which could (depending on the how it's structured) wipe out competition among insurance companies giving us shittier service but the rich folks will always be able to afford private companies and private doctors to get the BEST attention while we'll be stuck with Dr. C student, long lines, over-worked staff and so on.

It's an exciting time also because so many Americans are ready for a neo-socialist society and do you know why? Because a majority of Americans don't even know what that means! All they hear is "free" "affordable" and they don't think to look to deeply into the question of "HOW" this will be achieved. We've already turned ourselves into a seudo-corporatocracy so now we can make the move to be corpora-socialists. I LOVE the 2 party system! WHEEEEE!

Universal healthcare has provided some good things in the countries that have adopted it. The most important example is probably greatly improved access to primary care, however those systems have plenty of their own trouble relating to funding, quality of care, etc.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/20/health/main681801.shtml?cmp=EM8705
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/11/nnhs111.xml

On top of that, in the U.S. it would dramatically reduce physician salary while doing little to nothing to allieviate the debt that comes with medical school tuition or malpractice insurance.

That being said, i don't think the current system is very good either. The idea of cometition between insurance carriers is a joke, healthcare is too important to allow its dictation by market forces. Reimbursement is down and set to continue falling as Medicare is cut allowing private companies, in turn, to pay out less.
http://www.massmed.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=vs_mar05_top&TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&CONTENTID=11037
The fact that most health insurers are for profit, publicly owned companies means that their primary concern is profitability and accountability to share holders, by definition. This means that as you and I pay more and get less, the whole arrangement becomes beneficial not for the 'customer' or the physician but for the only party who is not involved in your well-being, board members. Yeah Capitalism!

By the way:

Q. How many people does it take to convince a person on a pseudo-racist rant that they can continue to believe that they are not actually racist?
A. Themselves

funny, no?

JekyllAndHyde

Nottingham, MD

April 2005

MAR 20, 2008 02:46 PM

Well, I've drunk with alcoholics who were black and white, and I was rejected by a pretty hot alcoholic girl once, and some of my best friends are alcoholics. So you see, I have extensive experience with alcoholics so I know why they all became that way and that they really hate those of us who can subscribe to moderation. And that means I know more about alcoholism than anyone.

I don't think anyone who doesn't have my experience really understands just how hopeless every single alcoholic is. To suggest that my experience doesn't justify everything I want to believe is ridiculous and I won't stand for it and I won't back down to those who fight this reasoning because it is not PC.

Valeyard

Shreveport, LA

January 2005

MAR 20, 2008 02:52 PM

Making some damn fine sense! About time someone spoke out about the double standards -- not to mention the extremism of the predominately white christian leaders like Pat Robertson and his ilk.

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE

May 2006

MAR 20, 2008 02:52 PM

JekyllAndHyde said:

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Well, I've drunk with alcoholics who were black and white, and I was rejected by a pretty hot alcoholic girl once, and some of my best friends are alcoholics. So you see, I have extensive experience with alcoholics so I know why they all became that way and that they really hate those of us who can subscribe to moderation. And that means I know more about alcoholism than anyone.

I don't think anyone who doesn't have my experience really understands just how hopeless every single one of them are. To suggest that my experience doesn't justify everything I want to believe is ridiculous and I won't stand for it and I won't back down to those who fight this reasoning because it is not PC.

You forgot to ask for angry and vomity emoticons!!!