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America seems to be in a lot of trouble. We have a possible Democratic presidential candidate who has been spiritually mentored by a black pastor who is clearly a madman. Obama’s pastor, Jeremiah Wright, actually said things out loud that any true American would never agree with. This is unparalleled in American history and we should now be very suspicious of Senator Obama.

For those of you unaware of Wright’s horrifying “hate speech,” here is a sample.



This is disturbing. I cannot believe any politician would be associated with a man who uses such hateful language. Never in the history of America have we faced such a troubling situation. We have a long history of compassionate and loving religious leaders influencing our political leaders.

It seems like just yesterday that the kind and wonderful Religious Right leader Francis Schaeffer was delivering his loving words to America.


There does come a time when force, even physical force, is appropriate...This brings us to a current issue that is crucial for the future of the church in the United States, the issue of abortion... It is time we consciously realize that when any office commands what is contrary to God's law it abrogates its authority. And our loyalty to the God who gave this law then requires that we make the appropriate response in that situation...


God bless him and his sweet call for the violent overthrow of the US government. Years of making these types of comments got Francis invited to lunch with Presidents Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford and George Bush Sr. – as he should have been. He was a true American.

Wright’s comments, on the other hand, are inexcusable, especially when compared with some of our nation’s greatest spiritual leaders, like Pat Robertson.


If I could just get a nuclear device inside Foggy Bottom, I think that's the answer. We've got to blow that thing up.


He was right, of course. Foggy Bottom is the nickname for the State Department’s DC headquarters. Pat knows that the State Department has spent years trying to kill us and therefore, should be annihilated with a nuclear weapon. God bless him for his kind and understanding heart.

Comments like this are the reason George W. Bush relied on Pat Robertson as a trusted consultant. And we should be thankful that he did so, unlike the horrible Jeremiah Wright, who clearly hates America. See, President Bush understands that Pat does not have a hateful bone in his body. The nuclear weapon Pat spoke of was made by Jesus. He only wants what is right for our country and the people living on her soil.


"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." –Pat Robertson, on "gay days" at Disneyworld.


Pat is just carrying on the tradition of warmhearted American spiritual leaders. The recently departed Reverend Jerry Falwell was another great man of God. After 9/11 he helped to heal our nation.


The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.


God bless you, Reverend Falwell -- and Pat Robertson for agreeing. Statements like this are the reason Falwell had an open line to the White House and called whenever he wanted.

Falwell's passing was a great loss, according to our political leaders.

John McCain


I join the students, faculty, and staff of Liberty University and Americans of all faiths in mourning the loss of Reverend Jerry Falwell. Dr. Falwell was a man of distinguished accomplishment who devoted his life to serving his faith and country.


George W. Bush


A man who cherished faith, family, and freedom. As the founder of Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg, Virginia, Jerry lived a life of faith and called upon men and women of all backgrounds to believe in God and serve their communities.


Yes, indeed. George even sought the advice of his "loyal friend" Jerry when selecting Supreme Court nominees.

John McCain’s has a new friend, pastor John Hagee, who has often expressed his Jesus-like views of the Katrina disaster.


All hurricanes are acts of God because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.


Bless you, John Hagee, that is exactly why you have "the ear of the White House." You embody the spirit of Jesus and American patriotism.


"Could it be that America, who refuses to defend Israel from the Russian invasion, will experience nuclear warfare on our east and west coasts?" He says yes, citing Genesis 12:3, in which God said to Israel: "I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you."


Preach on, brother! Clearly the man loves America, because he says the liberal coasts will experience nuclear warfare. That’s patriotism. Hateful Jeremiah Wright could learn something from love filled John Hagee.

Jeremiah Wright’s language is so hateful that I can barely contain myself. How dare anybody know him! Look at this drivel.


The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.

We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.

We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.


It’s not the kind of speech we are used to hearing from our white, white, and very white ministers. It doesn’t include the usual simplistic attack on a minority because of their sexuality. Nor does it justify the deaths of thousands because of their ideology. Wright does not call for the death of American citizens living on the coasts of America and he doesn’t hope for the nuclear destruction of a department of the US government. What a jerk.

Wright has the gall to suggest that there is a link between the United State’s bombing of or meddling in other countries, and the desire of fanatics to attack America. The last thing America wants is to hear someone speak the truth. For God’s sake, the man is saying there is a cause and effect relationship. BUT HE’S NOT BLAMING QUEERS! Didn’t he get the fucking memo? God lets terrorists kill us because men are putting their penises in other men’s bottoms.

Here are the things Jesus hates:


    The State Department
    The IRS
    Global Warming
    The UN (Oh man, does Jesus hate the UN)
    Old Europe
    Gays (duh)
    Liberals
    Jews
    Muslims
    Anybody but Christians, actually
    People who don’t own guns
    Soccer
    ACLU
    Abortionists
    Feminists


That's it. Anything not on that list, Jesus does not hate. Those are the subjects our spiritual leaders are allowed to cover. Or, at least our white religious leaders.

This entire “controversy” never would have erupted if Wright was a white man. That is so fucking obvious – and if you don’t think so, then you are a moron. This is white America getting angry at an uppity black man. This is the side of the US that whites would like very much to keep hidden away, out of view. Angry blacks are supposed to shoot and murder, not speak in ways that force us to think. This is the kind of shit that makes us look at ourselves and we don’t like it. That’s two hundred years of justifiable anger. A lot of people thought they were getting a nice house Negro in Obama, but now they find out he's been hanging out with the angry field Negroes. And they lost their minds. The hypocritical reaction of those who give the Robertsons of the world a pass is sickening.

God damn America is right.

The Republicans idiots will continue to hammer this point home, even after what may have been the best speech in modern politics two days ago. They will ignore the vile hate spewing out of the mouths of their insane religious leaders and continue their constant attacks on Wright. And no “journalist” will ever call if for the obvious racist attack it is. Because this America -- and we have the worst media in the free world.

 

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idolmaker

idolmaker

Brooklyn, NY
January 2006

MAR 20, 2008 10:07 AM

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAR 20, 2008 10:38 AM

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAR 20, 2008 10:39 AM



Sorry, but I think shit like this...


I waited in vain for our hybrid presidential candidate to speak the simple truth that there is no such thing as "race," that we all belong to the same race -- the human race.


Is just fucking stupid.

OneWithAll

OneWithAll

Charlton City, MA
October 2005

MAR 20, 2008 10:43 AM

need a little help here. just a little confused with this:


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut is questioning the Internal Revenue Service's investigation of the United Church of Christ for a speech Sen. Barack Obama gave at the denomination's national meeting last year after he began his presidential run.

Lieberman asked the IRS in a letter to explain how it could meet the required threshold of a "reasonable belief" that a church has engaged in improper political activity if had not contacted church officials before starting the investigation.

He also called the inquiry "especially troubling" because the agency hasn't given churches adequate guidance about what's allowed.

"Throughout my career in the Senate, I have supported the strong and fair enforcement of our nation's tax laws, including laws applicable to religious institutions," wrote Lieberman, an independent and former Democratic vice presidential candidate. "But I am concerned about the chilling effect on legitimate activity by religious organizations ..."

Obama, a member of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, spoke about faith and public life at the denomination's General Synod in Hartford, Conn., last June.

The IRS said in the letter, made public by the denomination, that it was concerned about articles posted on the church's Web site and other sites stating Obama had addressed nearly 10,000 people at the event. The agency also said Obama volunteers had staffed campaign tables "outside the center to promote his campaign."

The Rev. J. Bennett Guess, a spokesman for the Cleveland-based denomination, said a group of Obama volunteers was outside the Hartford Civic Center, where the event took place, but that they were told they could not enter the meeting.

Church leaders consulted with lawyers before the event on following IRS rules, Guess said. Before Obama spoke, a top church official told the crowd that the senator's talk was not a campaign-related event and that no leaflets or other signs of political support would be allowed.

The IRS does not comment on investigations.

_Margot_

_Margot_

Santa Monica, CA
December 2007

MAR 20, 2008 10:46 AM

FTR, thank you.

Slightly off topic. I love how Faux News idiots like Hannity and O'Reilly are fighting over who broke this story first.

idolmaker

idolmaker

Brooklyn, NY
January 2006

MAR 20, 2008 10:47 AM

FTR-

Can you tell me why you think it is stupid?

_Margot_

_Margot_

Santa Monica, CA
December 2007

MAR 20, 2008 10:52 AM

FearTheReaper said:



Sorry, but I think shit like this...


I waited in vain for our hybrid presidential candidate to speak the simple truth that there is no such thing as "race," that we all belong to the same race -- the human race.


Is just fucking stupid.



Is it just me or is "hybrid" sort of offensive in this context?

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

Knoxville, TN
OLD SKOOL

MAR 20, 2008 10:56 AM

idolmaker said:
FTR-

Can you tell me why you think it is stupid?



It's naive? It's unrealistic? Its use of semantics to try to make some snide political point insults the intelligence of its readers?

Adriata

Adriata

Pittsfield, MA
March 2008

MAR 20, 2008 11:04 AM

Thank you.

It's out and out hypocrisy, not to mention Obama has made it clear that just because he respects a man and listens to what he has to say, that doesn't mean he subscribes to it.. wasn't it Aristotle who said an educated mind could entertain a thought without subscribing to it? Even if you read Obama's books, the Audacity of Hope and Dreams from my Father, he criticizes and distances himself from a lot of the controversial views of his Pastor and even people like Farrakhan-- and this was well before he even was planning on running for the Presidency.

mattacme

mattacme

Calistoga, CA
February 2006

MAR 20, 2008 11:14 AM

tongue tongue tongue

Oh, these news clowns are really funny! Is there any way that this ministers words are on the same inflammatory level as ANY of the fundamentalist christian nutjobs? They really are grasping at anything. I guess that they are still scared of all these negros.

Adriata

Adriata

Pittsfield, MA
March 2008

MAR 20, 2008 11:15 AM

_Margot_ said:

FearTheReaper said:



Sorry, but I think shit like this...


I waited in vain for our hybrid presidential candidate to speak the simple truth that there is no such thing as "race," that we all belong to the same race -- the human race.


Is just fucking stupid.



Is it just me or is "hybrid" sort of offensive in this context?



It's not just that but that ignoring is not the same as tolerating.

A big problem is this idea of assimilation-- of "forget your culture and let's just come together." People don't want to lose their cultural identity, whether or not race is tied into that.

Equality and tolerance is not the same thing as not seeing a black man is a black man or an asian woman as an asian woman or whatever. Your race IS a part of who you are, not just genetically but culturally. Obama is an incredibly intelligent man who was in all fairness raised to be very white culturally, however he still struggled to fit in and find himself when it came to the Black community because despite how he was raised, the truth of the world was that he belonged to this other culture like it or not because of his race.. despite how he was raised, he DID have a Black parent and that was a part of him too.

I think Obama is absolutely right the way he put it.. that we need to have a dialogue. Saying "Let's just ignore all this and put it behind us!" isn't going to solve anything.. feeling like you're able to openly put your grievances and issues on the table and know that the other sides are going to try and at least communicate, however, will get a lot more done.

"Why can't we be friends?" is just really a cliche and silly thing to me.

Hussein

Hussein

I'm lost
March 2004

MAR 20, 2008 11:27 AM

Thanks, FTR.

I've seen bits of all of these ideas spread around the net, but your post does a great job of putting it all together--and shining a bright light on the wall-to-all Stupid-Fest that is the election coverage.

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

Los Angeles, CA
November 2003

MAR 20, 2008 11:27 AM

_Margot_ said:

FearTheReaper said:



Sorry, but I think shit like this...


I waited in vain for our hybrid presidential candidate to speak the simple truth that there is no such thing as "race," that we all belong to the same race -- the human race.


Is just fucking stupid.



Is it just me or is "hybrid" sort of offensive in this context?



Not only offensive but also illustrates how disingenuous the author is about about a color blind society. The term hybid implies combining two separate things. In a way the term "hybrid" references the term "mulatto" which derives from the the Spanish word for mule (a mix between two separate species--a horse and a donkey) and was once used as a term to refer to people of mixed race ancestry. It is not widely used because the term and the hybrid concept it implies is racist and derogatory.

The writer is simultaneously asserting that race does not existent AND the white and Black people are completely different kinds of critters--with a subtle hint that they may, in fact, be different species. That makes the author a liar, hypocrite, or an idiot. Or all of the above.

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

MAR 20, 2008 11:31 AM

WHy does god hate people in Darfur? WHy does god hate people in Missouri today?

I'd like to smack up Michael Moorefor his arrogant and short-sighted piece in the LATimes. He says Obama made a mistake by explaining racial differences and by doing so


and in so doing amplified deep-seated racial tensions and divisions. Instead of giving us a polarizing treatise on the "black experience," Obama should have reiterated the theme that has brought so many to his campaign: That race ain't what it used to be in America.



What a ton of crap. How about these tensions are always there, and continuing to deny them hasn't really worked so well??

I have to go with the opinion of Nicholas Kristof from the other coast. Here is some of what he says on
Obama and Race


Barack Obama this week gave the best political speech since John Kennedy talked about his Catholicism in Houston in 1960, and it derived power from something most unusual in modern politics: an acknowledgment of complexity, nuance and legitimate grievances on many sides. It was not a sound bite, but a symphony.

But the furor over the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's inflammatory sermons shows that Mr. Obama erred in an earlier speech _ the 2004 speech to the Democratic National Convention that catapulted him to fame.

In that speech, Mr. Obama declared that "there is not a black America and a white America... . There's the United States of America." That's a beautiful aspiration, and we're making progress toward it. But this last week has underscored that we're not nearly there yet.

The outrage over sermons by Mr. Wright demonstrates how desperately we as a nation need the dialogue about race that Mr. Obama tried to start with his speech on Tuesday.

Many well-meaning Americans perceive Mr. Wright as fundamentally a hate-monger who preaches antagonism toward whites. But those who know his church say that is an unrecognizable caricature: He is a complex figure and sometimes a reckless speaker, but one of his central messages is not anti-white hostility but black self-reliance.

"The big thing for Wright is hope," said Martin Marty, one of America's foremost theologians, who has known the Rev. Wright for 35 years and attended many of his services. "You hear 'hope, hope, hope.' Lots of ordinary people are there, and they're there not to blast the whites. They're there to get hope."

Professor Marty said that as a white person, he sticks out in the largely black congregation but is always greeted with warmth and hospitality. "It's not anti-white," he said. "I don't know anybody who's white who walks out of there not feeling affirmed."

Mr. Wright has indeed made some outrageous statements. But he should be judged as well by his actions _ including a vigorous effort to address poverty, ill health, injustice and AIDS in his ministry. Mr. Wright has been frightfully wrong on many topics, but he was right on poverty, civil rights and compassion for AIDS victims.

What should draw much more scrutiny in this campaign than any pastor's sermons is the candidates' positions on education, health care and poverty _ and their ability to put those policies in place. Cutting off health care benefits for low-income children strikes me as much more offensive than any inflammatory sermon.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAR 20, 2008 11:55 AM

BlastProcessing said:

idolmaker said:
FTR-

Can you tell me why you think it is stupid?



It's naive? It's unrealistic? Its use of semantics to try to make some snide political point insults the intelligence of its readers?



Bingo.

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