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  • THURSDAY MARCH 20 2008 6:00 AM

Angry Black Men Are Scary

America seems to be in a lot of trouble. We have a possible Democratic presidential candidate who has been spiritually mentored by a black pastor who is clearly a madman. Obama’s pastor, Jeremiah Wright, actually said things out loud that any true American would never agree with. This is unparalleled in American history and we should now be very suspicious of Senator Obama.

For those of you unaware of Wright’s horrifying “hate speech,” here is a sample.



This is disturbing. I cannot believe any politician would be associated with a man who uses such hateful language. Never in the history of America have we faced such a troubling situation. We have a long history of compassionate and loving religious leaders influencing our political leaders.

It seems like just yesterday that the kind and wonderful Religious Right leader Francis Schaeffer was delivering his loving words to America.


There does come a time when force, even physical force, is appropriate...This brings us to a current issue that is crucial for the future of the church in the United States, the issue of abortion... It is time we consciously realize that when any office commands what is contrary to God's law it abrogates its authority. And our loyalty to the God who gave this law then requires that we make the appropriate response in that situation...


God bless him and his sweet call for the violent overthrow of the US government. Years of making these types of comments got Francis invited to lunch with Presidents Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford and George Bush Sr. – as he should have been. He was a true American.

Wright’s comments, on the other hand, are inexcusable, especially when compared with some of our nation’s greatest spiritual leaders, like Pat Robertson.


If I could just get a nuclear device inside Foggy Bottom, I think that's the answer. We've got to blow that thing up.


He was right, of course. Foggy Bottom is the nickname for the State Department’s DC headquarters. Pat knows that the State Department has spent years trying to kill us and therefore, should be annihilated with a nuclear weapon. God bless him for his kind and understanding heart.

Comments like this are the reason George W. Bush relied on Pat Robertson as a trusted consultant. And we should be thankful that he did so, unlike the horrible Jeremiah Wright, who clearly hates America. See, President Bush understands that Pat does not have a hateful bone in his body. The nuclear weapon Pat spoke of was made by Jesus. He only wants what is right for our country and the people living on her soil.


"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." –Pat Robertson, on "gay days" at Disneyworld.


Pat is just carrying on the tradition of warmhearted American spiritual leaders. The recently departed Reverend Jerry Falwell was another great man of God. After 9/11 he helped to heal our nation.


The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.


God bless you, Reverend Falwell -- and Pat Robertson for agreeing. Statements like this are the reason Falwell had an open line to the White House and called whenever he wanted.

Falwell's passing was a great loss, according to our political leaders.

John McCain


I join the students, faculty, and staff of Liberty University and Americans of all faiths in mourning the loss of Reverend Jerry Falwell. Dr. Falwell was a man of distinguished accomplishment who devoted his life to serving his faith and country.


George W. Bush


A man who cherished faith, family, and freedom. As the founder of Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg, Virginia, Jerry lived a life of faith and called upon men and women of all backgrounds to believe in God and serve their communities.


Yes, indeed. George even sought the advice of his "loyal friend" Jerry when selecting Supreme Court nominees.

John McCain’s has a new friend, pastor John Hagee, who has often expressed his Jesus-like views of the Katrina disaster.


All hurricanes are acts of God because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.


Bless you, John Hagee, that is exactly why you have "the ear of the White House." You embody the spirit of Jesus and American patriotism.


"Could it be that America, who refuses to defend Israel from the Russian invasion, will experience nuclear warfare on our east and west coasts?" He says yes, citing Genesis 12:3, in which God said to Israel: "I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you."


Preach on, brother! Clearly the man loves America, because he says the liberal coasts will experience nuclear warfare. That’s patriotism. Hateful Jeremiah Wright could learn something from love filled John Hagee.

Jeremiah Wright’s language is so hateful that I can barely contain myself. How dare anybody know him! Look at this drivel.


The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.

We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.

We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.


It’s not the kind of speech we are used to hearing from our white, white, and very white ministers. It doesn’t include the usual simplistic attack on a minority because of their sexuality. Nor does it justify the deaths of thousands because of their ideology. Wright does not call for the death of American citizens living on the coasts of America and he doesn’t hope for the nuclear destruction of a department of the US government. What a jerk.

Wright has the gall to suggest that there is a link between the United State’s bombing of or meddling in other countries, and the desire of fanatics to attack America. The last thing America wants is to hear someone speak the truth. For God’s sake, the man is saying there is a cause and effect relationship. BUT HE’S NOT BLAMING QUEERS! Didn’t he get the fucking memo? God lets terrorists kill us because men are putting their penises in other men’s bottoms.

Here are the things Jesus hates:


    The State Department
    The IRS
    Global Warming
    The UN (Oh man, does Jesus hate the UN)
    Old Europe
    Gays (duh)
    Liberals
    Jews
    Muslims
    Anybody but Christians, actually
    People who don’t own guns
    Soccer
    ACLU
    Abortionists
    Feminists


That's it. Anything not on that list, Jesus does not hate. Those are the subjects our spiritual leaders are allowed to cover. Or, at least our white religious leaders.

This entire “controversy” never would have erupted if Wright was a white man. That is so fucking obvious – and if you don’t think so, then you are a moron. This is white America getting angry at an uppity black man. This is the side of the US that whites would like very much to keep hidden away, out of view. Angry blacks are supposed to shoot and murder, not speak in ways that force us to think. This is the kind of shit that makes us look at ourselves and we don’t like it. That’s two hundred years of justifiable anger. A lot of people thought they were getting a nice house Negro in Obama, but now they find out he's been hanging out with the angry field Negroes. And they lost their minds. The hypocritical reaction of those who give the Robertsons of the world a pass is sickening.

God damn America is right.

The Republicans idiots will continue to hammer this point home, even after what may have been the best speech in modern politics two days ago. They will ignore the vile hate spewing out of the mouths of their insane religious leaders and continue their constant attacks on Wright. And no “journalist” will ever call if for the obvious racist attack it is. Because this America -- and we have the worst media in the free world.

 

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SoulRiver

SoulRiver

Columbus, OH
January 2005

MAR 20, 2008 04:36 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

mamet said:
It says in the description he taught a class one semester at NC State. Professor or not, it doesn't have a thing to do with Reverend Wright, nor this supposed slew of racist ministers at black churches. Of course you're going to be able to find some people speaking against white people as a whole, but that doesn't prove widespread "racial hatred preached in black churches."



Yes, but you asked for a racist white-hating preacher, and that's a guy preaching the hating of whites. That post had about as much contrabution to the over all conversation as I intended (which is to say little to none). Now, for an actual contribution, so I don't enstill a notion of me being a total A-hole:

It's all well and good to listen to a guy say "God damn America" this, or "US of KKKA" that, regardless of whether those positions have any merit, but I can't help but be concerned if a presidential candidate has been going to these sermons for the last twenty years.



It's kind of scary that people have no problem shrinking a twenty+ year career to just a few soundbites without rational thought intervening.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

MAR 20, 2008 04:40 PM

SoulRiver said:

SergeantPsycho said:

mamet said:
It says in the description he taught a class one semester at NC State. Professor or not, it doesn't have a thing to do with Reverend Wright, nor this supposed slew of racist ministers at black churches. Of course you're going to be able to find some people speaking against white people as a whole, but that doesn't prove widespread "racial hatred preached in black churches."



Yes, but you asked for a racist white-hating preacher, and that's a guy preaching the hating of whites. That post had about as much contrabution to the over all conversation as I intended (which is to say little to none). Now, for an actual contribution, so I don't enstill a notion of me being a total A-hole:

It's all well and good to listen to a guy say "God damn America" this, or "US of KKKA" that, regardless of whether those positions have any merit, but I can't help but be concerned if a presidential candidate has been going to these sermons for the last twenty years.



It's kind of scary that people have no problem shrinking a twenty+ year career to just a few soundbites without rational thought intervening.



I'm sure Don Imus would agree!

Phantom_medic

Phantom_medic

Des Moines, IA
October 2007

MAR 20, 2008 04:40 PM

As much as i hate to admit it, Rev. Wright has valid points. The US has a long history of supporting terrorist actions. To create a controversy over his statements and not the statements of hate-mongering white ministers is hypocritical and just sad. I do not and cannot agree with the statement god damn America. Not so much for the anti American sentiment, but so many religious leaders and people get so offended by the use of the almighty GD, that saying it seems hypocritical. not to mentions blasphemous, if you happen to be Christian. i personally dont mind blasphemy, but hypocrisy is unacceptable. which is getting away from the point of the article. He has freedom of speech, and he is welcome to say anything he likes. I do not agree with everything he says, but i dont have to. nor does anyone else. there is a separation of church and state in this country only in words unfortunately. what a mans minister says should not be an issue to a political aspirant. Look at the politician themselves, and their actions as well as their political fellows, and there you will start to see the man. if he is a good man (or woman, dont mean to leave you out ladies, one gender is just simpler to write) in his politics, and he does good things, what does his personal life have to do with anything?

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

MAR 20, 2008 04:42 PM

wildswan said:
-Whites have not been on the crappy side of Jim Crow, or contemporary 'passive', 'dismissive' (the idea that blacks aren't even allowed to express their anger and pain over what has happened, and what continues to happen, to them), or 'underground' racism.



It may be less than pertinent in the context of the discussion, but - not in America, at least. Jim Crow notwithstanding, of course.

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

MAR 20, 2008 04:43 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

SoulRiver said:

SergeantPsycho said:

mamet said:
It says in the description he taught a class one semester at NC State. Professor or not, it doesn't have a thing to do with Reverend Wright, nor this supposed slew of racist ministers at black churches. Of course you're going to be able to find some people speaking against white people as a whole, but that doesn't prove widespread "racial hatred preached in black churches."



Yes, but you asked for a racist white-hating preacher, and that's a guy preaching the hating of whites. That post had about as much contrabution to the over all conversation as I intended (which is to say little to none). Now, for an actual contribution, so I don't enstill a notion of me being a total A-hole:

It's all well and good to listen to a guy say "God damn America" this, or "US of KKKA" that, regardless of whether those positions have any merit, but I can't help but be concerned if a presidential candidate has been going to these sermons for the last twenty years.



It's kind of scary that people have no problem shrinking a twenty+ year career to just a few soundbites without rational thought intervening.



I'm sure Don Imus would agree!



An argument which got Greta Van Susteren's fool head handed to her doesn't sound any less asinine when you try it.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

MAR 20, 2008 04:52 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

mamet said:
It says in the description he taught a class one semester at NC State. Professor or not, it doesn't have a thing to do with Reverend Wright, nor this supposed slew of racist ministers at black churches. Of course you're going to be able to find some people speaking against white people as a whole, but that doesn't prove widespread "racial hatred preached in black churches."



Yes, but you asked for a racist white-hating preacher, and that's a guy preaching the hating of whites. That post had about as much contrabution to the over all conversation as I intended (which is to say little to none). Now, for an actual contribution, so I don't enstill a notion of me being a total A-hole:

It's all well and good to listen to a guy say "God damn America" this, or "US of KKKA" that, regardless of whether those positions have any merit, but I can't help but be concerned if a presidential candidate has been going to these sermons for the last twenty years.



Ahh, the echos of the Kennedy campaign. Only then it was a worry that he would be under the thumb of the Vatican and all their teachings.

phrogg

phrogg

Greenville, SC
August 2005

MAR 20, 2008 04:54 PM

Phantom_medic said:
As much as i hate to admit it, Rev. Wright has valid points. The US has a long history of supporting terrorist actions. To create a controversy over his statements and not the statements of hate-mongering white ministers is hypocritical and just sad. I do not and cannot agree with the statement god damn America. Not so much for the anti American sentiment, but so many religious leaders and people get so offended by the use of the almighty GD, that saying it seems hypocritical. not to mentions blasphemous, if you happen to be Christian. i personally dont mind blasphemy, but hypocrisy is unacceptable. which is getting away from the point of the article. He has freedom of speech, and he is welcome to say anything he likes. I do not agree with everything he says, but i dont have to. nor does anyone else. there is a separation of church and state in this country only in words unfortunately. what a mans minister says should not be an issue to a political aspirant. Look at the politician themselves, and their actions as well as their political fellows, and there you will start to see the man. if he is a good man (or woman, dont mean to leave you out ladies, one gender is just simpler to write) in his politics, and he does good things, what does his personal life have to do with anything?



Well said. I would point out - re: the "God Damn America" statement, while obviously used by him for shock value, is not exactly non-Biblical. Check the Book of the Prophet Jeremiah in the Old Testament for similar imprecations against Israel and Judah.

wildswan

wildswan

I'm lost
June 2006

MAR 20, 2008 04:58 PM

BlastProcessing said:

wildswan said:
-Whites have not been on the crappy side of Jim Crow, or contemporary 'passive', 'dismissive' (the idea that blacks aren't even allowed to express their anger and pain over what has happened, and what continues to happen, to them), or 'underground' racism.



It may be less than pertinent in the context of the discussion, but - not in America, at least. Jim Crow notwithstanding, of course.



Well, I wanted (within a short commentary) to describe the frustrations as it pertains specifically to blacks in America.

In my own family, there is a history of being contemptuous of blacks who have that belligerent, emotional, and fiery type of rhetoric -- then I decided to investigate the origins of those sentiments. I also decided to listen more attentively to some outrageous things that some white family members had to say, and I learned where all of that pain and resentment was coming from.


If I hadn't been carefully sheltered from those harsh experiences in my formative years, I don't know where I would be now.

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

MAR 20, 2008 05:07 PM

46n2 said: I guess I am a little nationalistic in that in order to save the country you must respect it ... not tear down at every opporunity.



46n2 said: We as Americans are lucky to have been born here and be able to even speak so openly about these things.



I thought you just said we aren't suppose to openly say things that tear America down at every opportunity. Why should I be thankful if I can't offer any constructive criticism? Who's going to do the job of expressing how America can be better? Some privileged white trustafarians?

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

MAR 20, 2008 05:07 PM

coyotemike said:

SergeantPsycho said:

mamet said:
It says in the description he taught a class one semester at NC State. Professor or not, it doesn't have a thing to do with Reverend Wright, nor this supposed slew of racist ministers at black churches. Of course you're going to be able to find some people speaking against white people as a whole, but that doesn't prove widespread "racial hatred preached in black churches."



Yes, but you asked for a racist white-hating preacher, and that's a guy preaching the hating of whites. That post had about as much contrabution to the over all conversation as I intended (which is to say little to none). Now, for an actual contribution, so I don't enstill a notion of me being a total A-hole:

It's all well and good to listen to a guy say "God damn America" this, or "US of KKKA" that, regardless of whether those positions have any merit, but I can't help but be concerned if a presidential candidate has been going to these sermons for the last twenty years.



Ahh, the echos of the Kennedy campaign. Only then it was a worry that he would be under the thumb of the Vatican and all their teachings.



Obama's association with Wright is the least of the reason's why I'm not voting for him.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAR 20, 2008 05:12 PM

SergeantPsycho said:


Obama's association with Wright is the least of the reason's why I'm not voting for him.



I find that to be a borderline retarded statement.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

MAR 20, 2008 05:14 PM

FearTheReaper said:

SergeantPsycho said:


Obama's association with Wright is the least of the reason's why I'm not voting for him.



I find that to be a borderline retarded statement.



Ok, let me phrase it this way: I didn't plan on voting for him in any case.

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

MAR 20, 2008 05:17 PM

By your own logic Mr SergeantPsycho kitty, if you are disturbed by Obama's hearing these words, or not as the case may be

WHY is it ok to sit tight with the idea that Bill Clinton, George W Bush and John McCain have passively taken in all of the ridiculous crap spewed by Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberton, John Hagee, and Billy Graham.

Firey pulpit speeches appear pretty common in Christianity as do wild accusations.

ANYway, do you notice, does anyone notice, that Reverned Wright was talking about our choices as Americans and that he said "the things WE have done are coming back to US"

He doesn't say THEM. He says us. He includes himself in the mix of complex and flawed humans.

Go read the article AGAIN bc you FAIL to get it.

ALSO - two state dept officials breeched security and got into Barack's passport material in the state dept in JANUARY.

He was never informed, nor was his campaign. There is evidence of a cover-up as people were fired, but it is pretty clear this is going all the way to the head of the state dept, and that means Secretary of State Condi!!

look on any news channel...

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

MAR 20, 2008 05:21 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:

SergeantPsycho said:


Obama's association with Wright is the least of the reason's why I'm not voting for him.



I find that to be a borderline retarded statement.



Ok, let me phrase it this way: I didn't plan on voting for him in any case.



Nobody here is really surprised. Or, you know, cares.

wildswan

wildswan

I'm lost
June 2006

MAR 20, 2008 05:21 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

FearTheReaper said:

SergeantPsycho said:


Obama's association with Wright is the least of the reason's why I'm not voting for him.



I find that to be a borderline retarded statement.



Ok, let me phrase it this way: I didn't plan on voting for him in any case.



Does this mean the same thing as 'no matter what'?

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