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Hillary: You Lost. Go Away.

TUESDAY MARCH 18 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Democratic Primary

I do not know what in the fuck Hillary Clinton is doing. There is no way she can legitimately win the Democratic nomination. Turns out, a long time ago some asshole invented math and because of math, Hillary cannot win. She is a dead lady walking, which makes her continuing campaign completely absurd.

Clinton has only one strategy at this point: Scare superdelegates into voting against Obama. Either because he’s black, or he knew a guy named Rezko, or he’s black, or he can’t win big states, or he’s black, or because he’s not white. Hillary’s minions are now actually attempting to rename superdelegates. They want them to be called “automatic delegates,” which is apparently more appetizing and will somehow, magically allow Democrats to view them as pleasant, instead of what they are: Undemocratic, party insider bullshit.


The worry appears to be that the phrase "super-delegates" implies that "they have super-powers or super influence when they don't," the source says, describing Ickes' thinking. In other words, the phrase suggests that they have greater than average clout and that they have the power to overrule the democratic process, giving it the taint of back-room power politics.

The new term "automatic delegates" appears to be ostensibly a reference to the fact that these folks are super-delegates automatically, by virtue of their office or position.


Wow, that’s retarded. And Rovian. Good luck with that.

Meanwhile, other delegates chosen directly by voters are not "automatic."


In a letter sent to the state Democratic Party late Friday, the Clinton campaign requests the March 29 count and state Senate district conventions be postponed until the eligibility of an estimated 1 million caucus-goers are double checked.


Yes, let’s check the signatures of 1 million voters. Great idea and not at all scumbaggery.

Here is where Hillary’s problem lies.

It’s called reality. The only way she can win the nomination, by getting more delegates and winning the popular vote, is to crush Obama in all the remaining primaries. She has yet to crush Obama in one state primary. He has crushed her in several.

Hillary has also been loudly proclaiming that the Florida and Michigan delegates should be counted. Obviously, she did not come to this brilliant conclusion until she won both states. Hillary also apparently does not remember signing this document:


THEREFORE, I (Hillary Clinton), Democratic Candidate for President, in honor and in accordance with DNC rules, pledge to actively campaign in the pre-approved early states Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina. I pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any election contest occurring in any state not already authorized by the DNC to take place in the DNC approved pre-window (any date prior to February 5, 2008).


Hillary’s not going to “participate,” but she’s going to fight for the delegates. Which, is kind of "participating" in the process. She even wants the delegates from Michigan seated, where she was the only name on the ballot and voters were not allowed to write in Obama’s name. That is apparently totally acceptable – especially so in Asshole World.

Obama’s people, obviously, say, “No.”

How about a re-vote? Or, how about we follow the rules that were agreed to ahead of the campaign? How about we act like adults? How about if one of the leading Democratic candidates doesn’t attempt to pull a bullshit move that reminds every voter of Bush’s tactics? Does that sound good?

Apparently not. Hillary’s campaign can’t survive a re-vote. It’s something her biggest supporters don’t understand. So, being incredibly intelligent, I will break it down for them.

Currently the popular vote looks like this:


    Obama – 13,281,132
    Clinton – 12,577,409


That is without Florida and Michigan. With those two rogue states, it looks like this:


    Obama - 13,857,346
    Clinton – 13,776,704


Obviously, that’s a big difference. Clinton narrows the lead to under 100,000 with Michigan and Florida counted. But what happens if there is a revote in both states? Uh oh, then Clinton is getting her ass kicked again.

If a revote is agreed to, suddenly Hillary can no longer tell her supporters she is within striking distance. Toss those totals out and she has to accept being down nearly 1 million votes. Considering right now her campaign is running on pure bullshit, she’d be fucked. Even her minions would be forced to recognize that she has failed. The 193 extra delegates Clinton claims are hers, suddenly are not and she looks like the beaten candidate that she is.

And no fucking way in hell can she ever do better that the original, bullshit primaries held in Florida and Michigan. She was the only person on the ballot in Michigan. Latest polls show a tied race in the giant mitten. Obama would gain in delegates and popular vote. In Florida, Edwards was still on the ballot and Obama did not campaign in the state. In every state Obama campaigns in, he drastically cuts Hillary’s lead. Obama only came away with 32% of the vote in Florida. He would obviously get more in a revote. That’s more delegates and more votes.

As of now, Michigan looks like it will have a June revote. I like to call it a re-primary, or a re-mary. Bad news for Clinton. It appears Florida will not have a re-mary and Senator Nelson is calling for the delegates to be seated, but only count as ˝.


Seeing little support for a do-over presidential primary by mail, U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida on Friday began floating the idea of getting half the state's Democratic delegation counted at this summer's national convention.

The move, if approved by the Democratic National Committee and the presidential campaigns, would reduce by half Hillary Clinton's 38-delegate margin over Barack Obama among the 188 pledged delegates who normally would be selected based on the January 29 primary.


Nelson is a big Clinton supporter – so his plan is a big blow. A 19 delegate pick up is not what Hillary needs. Her peeps are not pleased.


"We believe that every vote ought to count," said Mo Elleithee, a Clinton spokesman.

"Florida and Michigan should have a role in the nominating process."


Well, they’re going to. It’s just not going to be the one you want. Obama is playing this smart.


Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said, "Our position has remained that we will do whatever the DNC decides."


The Clinton campaign needs to keep people thinking that the Florida and Michigan’s first results will be counted, because that creates uncertainty. Her campaign cannot survive right now without uncertainty. As soon as a resolution is reached, Clinton is toast. She will no longer be able to convince supporters that she will have the lead in delegates or the popular vote when Democrats hold their convention. Superdelegates or “automatic delegates” will never take the suicidal route of reversing the people’s choice.


I've asked several prominent uncommitted superdelegates if there's any chance they would reverse the will of Democratic voters. They all say no. It would shatter young people and destroy the party.


Hillary is done. She has been since Mini Super Tuesday. There is no way for her to win. I know this because I passed my grammar school math classes. Pack it the fuck in, crazy lady.

 

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sitar

sitar

Philadelphia, PA
June 2004

MAR 18, 2008 06:43 PM

why won't hillary listen to us?

strndniowa

strndniowa

Grimes, IA
May 2007

MAR 18, 2008 06:53 PM

scylis said:

strndniowa said:
Huh...screwing with the votes..Florida involved...
Hillary W Bush?

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

I can't believe I'm the first one with this?!



only in your mind, you are.



at least I thought I was the first in this set of comments

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Amazing how some people just trash talk instead of adding to the commentary

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

Knoxville, TN
OLD SKOOL

MAR 18, 2008 07:02 PM

strndniowa said:

scylis said:

strndniowa said:
Huh...screwing with the votes..Florida involved...
Hillary W Bush?

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

I can't believe I'm the first one with this?!



only in your mind, you are.



at least I thought I was the first in this set of comments

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Amazing how some people just trash talk instead of adding to the commentary



From the OP:

FearTheReaper said:
How about if one of the leading Democratic candidates doesn't attempt to pull a bullshit move that reminds every voter of Bush's tactics? Does that sound good?


Unless you want to stake a claim as the first one here to make it sound dumb.

401kboy

401kboy

Woodbridge, NJ
May 2007

MAR 18, 2008 07:15 PM

as someone who is outraged by the way the two parties have written election law to foreclose the possibility of any third party candidate having a chance, I am relishing the conflict caused by the MI and FL mess.

as it stands now I do not believe that either Democrat will beat McCain. if the Democrats are serious about wanting to win the White House they have to at least consider the possibility of seeking someone else.

as appealing as Obama's speeches are, keep in mind that he IS a politician, and will most likely disappoint his faithful following if elected.

Reaver

Reaver

Sneads Ferry, NC
August 2003

MAR 18, 2008 07:38 PM



And completely disreagard the voters? Yeah, that's a great idea.



They've already done that in MI and FL.

AmbientLight

AmbientLight

Huntington Beach, CA
March 2005

MAR 18, 2008 07:42 PM

DevilsReject said:

Morgan said:
Hillary kind of reminds me of the crazy-ass Hopeful that just got zotted. Maybe Hilary's next delusion will be that she can totally become a SuicideGirl!



it's amazing how well this analogy works. It's rather scary.



Shhhh... she might hear you and submit a set.
(shudder)

401kboy

401kboy

Woodbridge, NJ
May 2007

MAR 18, 2008 08:03 PM

how have they done it? ballot access rules that they don't have to fulfill. state sponsored primaries. public financing that third parties have a much harder time qualifying for. to name just a few.

goatinamoat

goatinamoat

New York, NY
March 2006

MAR 18, 2008 08:10 PM

Reminds me of Gore v. Bush in 2000. Al Gore passes the "I can't take a hint" reins to Hillary.

The Democrats thought this sort of BS was OK in 2000. Well you reap what you sow.

Good luck with that. See you in the general election.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

MAR 18, 2008 08:16 PM

goatinamoat said:
Reminds me of Gore v. Bush in 2000. Al Gore passes the "I can't take a hint" reins to Hillary.

The Democrats thought this sort of BS was OK in 2000. Well you reap what you sow.

Good luck with that. See you in the general election.



What exactly did the Dems do in 2000? It was the GOP gov't in Florida (Jeb Bush) that screwed over that election.

*EDIT*
. . . along with the SCOTUS.

Mankarlen

Mankarlen

Columbia City, OR
June 2006

MAR 18, 2008 08:22 PM

Says Fucking who you! ! ! ! ! ! Or soddum

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

MAR 18, 2008 08:24 PM

Mankarlen said:
Says Fucking who you! ! ! ! ! ! Or soddum



I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

MAR 18, 2008 08:53 PM

How many delegates does PA have? Hillary is going to stomp the Fresh Prince of Chicago there pretty handily, it looks like popular vote-wise. She'll have an assist from Republicans, plus those turned off by Obama's true colors coming out.

Stiles

Stiles

New York, NY
November 2002

MAR 18, 2008 09:00 PM

stockula said:
How many delegates does PA have? Hillary is going to stomp the Fresh Prince of Chicago there pretty handily, it looks like popular vote-wise. She'll have an assist from Republicans, plus those turned off by Obama's true colors coming out.



You have a poor grasp of the makeup of Pennsylvania voters.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

MAR 18, 2008 09:00 PM

stockula, Clinton cannot get enough delegates, because of the splits in every primary, to catch Obama. Simple math.

And what true colors are you babbling about? His retired pastor?

Reaver

Reaver

Sneads Ferry, NC
August 2003

MAR 18, 2008 09:01 PM

::Laugh!::

Stiles, I think you have overestimated my fellow Pennsylvanians, there is no love for Obama here in Central PA.

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