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Hillary: You Lost. Go Away.

TUESDAY MARCH 18 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Democratic Primary

I do not know what in the fuck Hillary Clinton is doing. There is no way she can legitimately win the Democratic nomination. Turns out, a long time ago some asshole invented math and because of math, Hillary cannot win. She is a dead lady walking, which makes her continuing campaign completely absurd.

Clinton has only one strategy at this point: Scare superdelegates into voting against Obama. Either because he’s black, or he knew a guy named Rezko, or he’s black, or he can’t win big states, or he’s black, or because he’s not white. Hillary’s minions are now actually attempting to rename superdelegates. They want them to be called “automatic delegates,” which is apparently more appetizing and will somehow, magically allow Democrats to view them as pleasant, instead of what they are: Undemocratic, party insider bullshit.


The worry appears to be that the phrase "super-delegates" implies that "they have super-powers or super influence when they don't," the source says, describing Ickes' thinking. In other words, the phrase suggests that they have greater than average clout and that they have the power to overrule the democratic process, giving it the taint of back-room power politics.

The new term "automatic delegates" appears to be ostensibly a reference to the fact that these folks are super-delegates automatically, by virtue of their office or position.


Wow, that’s retarded. And Rovian. Good luck with that.

Meanwhile, other delegates chosen directly by voters are not "automatic."


In a letter sent to the state Democratic Party late Friday, the Clinton campaign requests the March 29 count and state Senate district conventions be postponed until the eligibility of an estimated 1 million caucus-goers are double checked.


Yes, let’s check the signatures of 1 million voters. Great idea and not at all scumbaggery.

Here is where Hillary’s problem lies.

It’s called reality. The only way she can win the nomination, by getting more delegates and winning the popular vote, is to crush Obama in all the remaining primaries. She has yet to crush Obama in one state primary. He has crushed her in several.

Hillary has also been loudly proclaiming that the Florida and Michigan delegates should be counted. Obviously, she did not come to this brilliant conclusion until she won both states. Hillary also apparently does not remember signing this document:


THEREFORE, I (Hillary Clinton), Democratic Candidate for President, in honor and in accordance with DNC rules, pledge to actively campaign in the pre-approved early states Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina. I pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any election contest occurring in any state not already authorized by the DNC to take place in the DNC approved pre-window (any date prior to February 5, 2008).


Hillary’s not going to “participate,” but she’s going to fight for the delegates. Which, is kind of "participating" in the process. She even wants the delegates from Michigan seated, where she was the only name on the ballot and voters were not allowed to write in Obama’s name. That is apparently totally acceptable – especially so in Asshole World.

Obama’s people, obviously, say, “No.”

How about a re-vote? Or, how about we follow the rules that were agreed to ahead of the campaign? How about we act like adults? How about if one of the leading Democratic candidates doesn’t attempt to pull a bullshit move that reminds every voter of Bush’s tactics? Does that sound good?

Apparently not. Hillary’s campaign can’t survive a re-vote. It’s something her biggest supporters don’t understand. So, being incredibly intelligent, I will break it down for them.

Currently the popular vote looks like this:


    Obama – 13,281,132
    Clinton – 12,577,409


That is without Florida and Michigan. With those two rogue states, it looks like this:


    Obama - 13,857,346
    Clinton – 13,776,704


Obviously, that’s a big difference. Clinton narrows the lead to under 100,000 with Michigan and Florida counted. But what happens if there is a revote in both states? Uh oh, then Clinton is getting her ass kicked again.

If a revote is agreed to, suddenly Hillary can no longer tell her supporters she is within striking distance. Toss those totals out and she has to accept being down nearly 1 million votes. Considering right now her campaign is running on pure bullshit, she’d be fucked. Even her minions would be forced to recognize that she has failed. The 193 extra delegates Clinton claims are hers, suddenly are not and she looks like the beaten candidate that she is.

And no fucking way in hell can she ever do better that the original, bullshit primaries held in Florida and Michigan. She was the only person on the ballot in Michigan. Latest polls show a tied race in the giant mitten. Obama would gain in delegates and popular vote. In Florida, Edwards was still on the ballot and Obama did not campaign in the state. In every state Obama campaigns in, he drastically cuts Hillary’s lead. Obama only came away with 32% of the vote in Florida. He would obviously get more in a revote. That’s more delegates and more votes.

As of now, Michigan looks like it will have a June revote. I like to call it a re-primary, or a re-mary. Bad news for Clinton. It appears Florida will not have a re-mary and Senator Nelson is calling for the delegates to be seated, but only count as ˝.


Seeing little support for a do-over presidential primary by mail, U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida on Friday began floating the idea of getting half the state's Democratic delegation counted at this summer's national convention.

The move, if approved by the Democratic National Committee and the presidential campaigns, would reduce by half Hillary Clinton's 38-delegate margin over Barack Obama among the 188 pledged delegates who normally would be selected based on the January 29 primary.


Nelson is a big Clinton supporter – so his plan is a big blow. A 19 delegate pick up is not what Hillary needs. Her peeps are not pleased.


"We believe that every vote ought to count," said Mo Elleithee, a Clinton spokesman.

"Florida and Michigan should have a role in the nominating process."


Well, they’re going to. It’s just not going to be the one you want. Obama is playing this smart.


Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said, "Our position has remained that we will do whatever the DNC decides."


The Clinton campaign needs to keep people thinking that the Florida and Michigan’s first results will be counted, because that creates uncertainty. Her campaign cannot survive right now without uncertainty. As soon as a resolution is reached, Clinton is toast. She will no longer be able to convince supporters that she will have the lead in delegates or the popular vote when Democrats hold their convention. Superdelegates or “automatic delegates” will never take the suicidal route of reversing the people’s choice.


I've asked several prominent uncommitted superdelegates if there's any chance they would reverse the will of Democratic voters. They all say no. It would shatter young people and destroy the party.


Hillary is done. She has been since Mini Super Tuesday. There is no way for her to win. I know this because I passed my grammar school math classes. Pack it the fuck in, crazy lady.

 

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Reaver

Reaver

Sneads Ferry, NC
August 2003

MAR 18, 2008 11:12 AM

I think it's bullshit the voters in Michigan and Florida are not being heard because of fucking byzantine and dare I say retarded DNC rules.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

MAR 18, 2008 11:18 AM

Reaver said:
I think it's bullshit the voters in Michigan and Florida are not being heard because of fucking byzantine and dare I say retarded DNC rules.



There are many states that have had their voice taken from them by elections. This is the first year my state's vote even mattered a little bit. In most elections, the states that vote after March make no difference. Someone is always going to get screwed over in an election. And after the shit that has happened in Florida in the past, I have no sympathy. The people down there keep voting in corrupt officials who will do anything to fuck up a national election. They dug their own outhouse; don't blame the rest of us if they get splinters in their asses.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAR 18, 2008 11:25 AM

Reaver said:
I think it's bullshit the voters in Michigan and Florida are not being heard because of fucking byzantine and dare I say retarded DNC rules.



Totally. A primary season beginning in November would be awesome. Actually, how about they start voting 2 years before?

HugZombie

HugZombie

Columbus, OH
November 2007

MAR 18, 2008 11:26 AM

401kboy said:
Believe me, I do not want to see Hillary Clinton nominated. I'm not sure I want to see Obama nominated either. The best hope for the Democrats might well be a brokered convention that results in someone else being chosen. I can think of half a dozen prominent Democrats who are much better presidential material than either of them.



I would be pissed if they just decided to pick someone else. In my mind, that's pretty much saying "fuck you" to everyone who voted in the past couple months. I don't see this as being the best hope for Democrats. Although, our best hope would to be to not have this long drawn out primary season.

Adroitbeing

Adroitbeing

I'm lost
September 2003

MAR 18, 2008 01:18 PM

Reaver said:
I always like how Clinton supporters can gloss over Whitewater, Travelgate, and committing what is tantamount to perjury by lying to a Grand Jury.

But why split hairs?

Not to mention ten congressmen (including 5 major democrats knew about Operation Menu, and didn't say a goddamned word). Furthermore, and not to be a Nixon fan, since he wasn't delcaring war on Cambodia? He didn't need the permission of Congress did he?

By the way? Think Clinton asked permission for Operation: Infinite Reach? Think he mentioned it to Congress as they were seeing about impeaching him?

I am not apologizing for Nixon, but maybe we could have an I don't know, far and balanced look at his presidency instead of just yelling 'Vietnam and Watergate' at the mention of his name.



I always like how the uninformed use the proper name assigned by the media in a tepid attempt to describe the controversy. it's at once deep and riveting.

The Clintons were never charged with any crime related to Watergate; nor were they going to be charged. They lost $70K as passive investors in a real estate investment that failed under the high interest rates of the period. Their partner, and the managing partner of Whitewater, Jim McDougal was later convicted for improperly arranging financing through a bank he owned for a separate real estate transaction, Castle Grand. Despite efforts to make a connection to the Clintons - none existed.

Nixon on the other hand was caught on tape discussing the use of the CIA to obstruct the FBI's investigation of the Watergate break-ins with House Chief of Staff H. R. Haldeman. The tapes revealed the two constructing a plan to suggest the CIA involvement be positioned under the guise of national security. Nixon resigned after realizing he would most certainly be impeached.

Those subtle differences seem lost on people like you.

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

MAR 18, 2008 01:58 PM

FearTheReaper said:
Michigan revote dead.

There will be no revote in either state. Good news for Hillary Clinton. She can pretend she still has a chance.



Hot fucking damn that is good news from the larger picture!

I can comprehend, though do not condone, some compromised seating of the delegates in Florida happening. But NEVER MIchigan where Obama's name was not even on the ballet.

P.S. It DOESN'T matter if the DNC rules are stupid looking backwards for Michigan bc everyone agreed to these rules.

The Florida GOp Governor dicked over the democratic voters by changing both primaries, and the DNC should've exempted them. But THEY DIDN"T and now it is too late to do anything but fucking change the process for next time with regard to how and when the primaries will be held.

And Hillary should still go home.

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

MAR 18, 2008 02:03 PM

Reaver said:
Corrupt, petty, fearmonger who created the DEA, the EPA, made lasting peace with China in the shadow of the Cold War, who nearly passed a healthcare plan very similar to the one that Hilary Clinton proposed in 2007, and oversaw the greatest desegregation of Southern Schools?



You're floating the DEA as a good thing? In regards to your supposed understanding of some apparent group-think mindset on these boards, you try to castigate the Clintons? Haven't you noticed that many posting here are not exactly on board with Hillary Clinton?

But yeah, Nixon started our country on the path to the War on Drugs (though it was not actually "declared" until Ford) and boy-oh-boy has that ever turned out well for us. whatever

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAR 18, 2008 02:27 PM

LostLucy said:

The Florida GOp Governor dicked over the democratic voters by changing both primaries, and the DNC should've exempted them. But THEY DIDN"T and now it is too late to do anything but fucking change the process for next time with regard to how and when the primaries will be held.

.



Florida Dems didn't put up much of a fight. A vast majority voted to move the primary up - because it was included in a bill for election reform. They could have fought it - or caused a stink. They didn't. It's not all on the Republicans heads.

ThatTalentedHack

ThatTalentedHack

San Antonio, TX
July 2007

MAR 18, 2008 03:02 PM

livertarian said:
Barack Obama is The Donkey Whisperer.



OMG, I just lol'ed so hard I have to pee now.

AmbientLight

AmbientLight

Huntington Beach, CA
March 2005

MAR 18, 2008 03:04 PM

thefreak said:

Salome said:

PointBlank said:

AmbientLight said:
. This is a test of his metal, .


Maiden/Priest 2008!


Someone photoshop the Slayer logo onto an Obama picture; I'm not that talented.


What the hell. It's an amusing prospect, and I was bored. biggrin

zoom image

-TM



Ha ha ha... lookin' good.
Hmmm... I dare say the metalheads could do alot better job running this country than the current shitheads.

Rock on USA!

Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

MAR 18, 2008 03:13 PM

Reaver said:

Corrupt, petty, fearmonger w who nearly passed a healthcare plan very similar to the one that Hilary Clinton proposed in 2007



So instead he helped pave the way for HMO's. Yeah, helluva guy.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

Hampton, VA
January 2007

MAR 18, 2008 03:14 PM

You guys don't understand, Hillary it doesn't matter what the "voters" want, Hillary is supposed to be the Democratic nominee, and because she's the first woman presidential candidate, she's supposed to win the main election! Why don't you get that through your thick skulls!*



*Obligatory Sarcasm disclaimer!

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

MAR 18, 2008 03:31 PM

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Georgia, USA

MAR 18, 2008 03:47 PM

Hillary kind of reminds me of the crazy-ass Hopeful that just got zotted. Maybe Hilary's next delusion will be that she can totally become a SuicideGirl!

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

MAR 18, 2008 03:50 PM

Morgan said:
Hillary kind of reminds me of the crazy-ass Hopeful that just got zotted. Maybe Hilary's next delusion will be that she can totally become a SuicideGirl!



I encourage everyone to express themselves and learn to celebrate their bodies no matter what the shape.

Having said that . . . . EWW!

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