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  • TUESDAY MARCH 18 2008 6:00 AM

Hillary: You Lost. Go Away.

I do not know what in the fuck Hillary Clinton is doing. There is no way she can legitimately win the Democratic nomination. Turns out, a long time ago some asshole invented math and because of math, Hillary cannot win. She is a dead lady walking, which makes her continuing campaign completely absurd.

Clinton has only one strategy at this point: Scare superdelegates into voting against Obama. Either because he’s black, or he knew a guy named Rezko, or he’s black, or he can’t win big states, or he’s black, or because he’s not white. Hillary’s minions are now actually attempting to rename superdelegates. They want them to be called “automatic delegates,” which is apparently more appetizing and will somehow, magically allow Democrats to view them as pleasant, instead of what they are: Undemocratic, party insider bullshit.


The worry appears to be that the phrase "super-delegates" implies that "they have super-powers or super influence when they don't," the source says, describing Ickes' thinking. In other words, the phrase suggests that they have greater than average clout and that they have the power to overrule the democratic process, giving it the taint of back-room power politics.

The new term "automatic delegates" appears to be ostensibly a reference to the fact that these folks are super-delegates automatically, by virtue of their office or position.


Wow, that’s retarded. And Rovian. Good luck with that.

Meanwhile, other delegates chosen directly by voters are not "automatic."


In a letter sent to the state Democratic Party late Friday, the Clinton campaign requests the March 29 count and state Senate district conventions be postponed until the eligibility of an estimated 1 million caucus-goers are double checked.


Yes, let’s check the signatures of 1 million voters. Great idea and not at all scumbaggery.

Here is where Hillary’s problem lies.

It’s called reality. The only way she can win the nomination, by getting more delegates and winning the popular vote, is to crush Obama in all the remaining primaries. She has yet to crush Obama in one state primary. He has crushed her in several.

Hillary has also been loudly proclaiming that the Florida and Michigan delegates should be counted. Obviously, she did not come to this brilliant conclusion until she won both states. Hillary also apparently does not remember signing this document:


THEREFORE, I (Hillary Clinton), Democratic Candidate for President, in honor and in accordance with DNC rules, pledge to actively campaign in the pre-approved early states Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina. I pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any election contest occurring in any state not already authorized by the DNC to take place in the DNC approved pre-window (any date prior to February 5, 2008).


Hillary’s not going to “participate,” but she’s going to fight for the delegates. Which, is kind of "participating" in the process. She even wants the delegates from Michigan seated, where she was the only name on the ballot and voters were not allowed to write in Obama’s name. That is apparently totally acceptable – especially so in Asshole World.

Obama’s people, obviously, say, “No.”

How about a re-vote? Or, how about we follow the rules that were agreed to ahead of the campaign? How about we act like adults? How about if one of the leading Democratic candidates doesn’t attempt to pull a bullshit move that reminds every voter of Bush’s tactics? Does that sound good?

Apparently not. Hillary’s campaign can’t survive a re-vote. It’s something her biggest supporters don’t understand. So, being incredibly intelligent, I will break it down for them.

Currently the popular vote looks like this:


    Obama – 13,281,132
    Clinton – 12,577,409


That is without Florida and Michigan. With those two rogue states, it looks like this:


    Obama - 13,857,346
    Clinton – 13,776,704


Obviously, that’s a big difference. Clinton narrows the lead to under 100,000 with Michigan and Florida counted. But what happens if there is a revote in both states? Uh oh, then Clinton is getting her ass kicked again.

If a revote is agreed to, suddenly Hillary can no longer tell her supporters she is within striking distance. Toss those totals out and she has to accept being down nearly 1 million votes. Considering right now her campaign is running on pure bullshit, she’d be fucked. Even her minions would be forced to recognize that she has failed. The 193 extra delegates Clinton claims are hers, suddenly are not and she looks like the beaten candidate that she is.

And no fucking way in hell can she ever do better that the original, bullshit primaries held in Florida and Michigan. She was the only person on the ballot in Michigan. Latest polls show a tied race in the giant mitten. Obama would gain in delegates and popular vote. In Florida, Edwards was still on the ballot and Obama did not campaign in the state. In every state Obama campaigns in, he drastically cuts Hillary’s lead. Obama only came away with 32% of the vote in Florida. He would obviously get more in a revote. That’s more delegates and more votes.

As of now, Michigan looks like it will have a June revote. I like to call it a re-primary, or a re-mary. Bad news for Clinton. It appears Florida will not have a re-mary and Senator Nelson is calling for the delegates to be seated, but only count as ½.


Seeing little support for a do-over presidential primary by mail, U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida on Friday began floating the idea of getting half the state's Democratic delegation counted at this summer's national convention.

The move, if approved by the Democratic National Committee and the presidential campaigns, would reduce by half Hillary Clinton's 38-delegate margin over Barack Obama among the 188 pledged delegates who normally would be selected based on the January 29 primary.


Nelson is a big Clinton supporter – so his plan is a big blow. A 19 delegate pick up is not what Hillary needs. Her peeps are not pleased.


"We believe that every vote ought to count," said Mo Elleithee, a Clinton spokesman.

"Florida and Michigan should have a role in the nominating process."


Well, they’re going to. It’s just not going to be the one you want. Obama is playing this smart.


Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said, "Our position has remained that we will do whatever the DNC decides."


The Clinton campaign needs to keep people thinking that the Florida and Michigan’s first results will be counted, because that creates uncertainty. Her campaign cannot survive right now without uncertainty. As soon as a resolution is reached, Clinton is toast. She will no longer be able to convince supporters that she will have the lead in delegates or the popular vote when Democrats hold their convention. Superdelegates or “automatic delegates” will never take the suicidal route of reversing the people’s choice.


I've asked several prominent uncommitted superdelegates if there's any chance they would reverse the will of Democratic voters. They all say no. It would shatter young people and destroy the party.


Hillary is done. She has been since Mini Super Tuesday. There is no way for her to win. I know this because I passed my grammar school math classes. Pack it the fuck in, crazy lady.

 

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Reaver

Reaver

I'm lost
August 2003

MAR 18, 2008 09:03 PM

And to you third party guys?

Never forget the Dixie-crats!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrats

Third Party Now! Third Party Tomorrow! Third Party Forever!

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

MAR 18, 2008 09:04 PM

SG ate my comment.

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

MAR 18, 2008 09:04 PM

Reaver said:
::Laugh!::

Stiles, I think you have overestimated my fellow Pennsylvanians, there is no love for Obama here in Central PA.



Voters in central PA are commonly outnumbered and outvoted by urban voters in the five-county Philadelphia area, along with other urban voters in Harrisburg and Pittsburgh.

Salome

Salome

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

MAR 18, 2008 09:06 PM

thefreak said:

Salome said:

PointBlank said:

AmbientLight said:
. This is a test of his metal, .


Maiden/Priest 2008!


Someone photoshop the Slayer logo onto an Obama picture; I'm not that talented.


What the hell. It's an amusing prospect, and I was bored. biggrin

zoom image

-TM



This made SG a much, much happier place today. I thank you.

Reaver

Reaver

I'm lost
August 2003

MAR 18, 2008 09:08 PM

Stiles, don't ruin their dreams.

Don't ruin their dreams!

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

MAR 18, 2008 09:10 PM

Reaver said:
Stiles, don't ruin their dreams.

Don't ruin their dreams!



Please, step away from the bottle of ether.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

MAR 18, 2008 09:14 PM

Reaver said:
::Laugh!::

Stiles, I think you have overestimated my fellow Pennsylvanians, there is no love for Obama here in Central PA.



Central PA . . . isn't that where the Amish communities are?

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

MAR 18, 2008 09:21 PM

coyotemike said:

Reaver said:
::Laugh!::

Stiles, I think you have overestimated my fellow Pennsylvanians, there is no love for Obama here in Central PA.



Central PA . . . isn't that where the Amish communities are?



Scots-Irish. Was it Legionnaire who said that the area between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia was referred to as 'Alabama' by Pennsylvanians?

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

MAR 18, 2008 09:24 PM

Stock, it's 'Pennsyltucky' if you want to be proper about it... and it's a safe bet that residents of those areas aren't using that name themselves.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

MAR 18, 2008 09:29 PM

Mankarlen said:
Says Fucking who you! ! ! ! ! ! Or soddum



Wow. Just... wow.

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

MAR 18, 2008 09:31 PM

SockPuppet said:

BlastProcessing said:

SockPuppet said:

bald_eagle said:

coyotemike said:
I've been edited!


I'm unrelated!


I can't read!



I'm correct!



I edit things!



Fixed.

_margot_

_margot_

Los Angeles, CA
December 2007

MAR 18, 2008 09:33 PM

bean said:

Mankarlen said:
Says Fucking who you! ! ! ! ! ! Or soddum



Wow. Just... wow.



Could you translate this for me please?

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

MAR 18, 2008 09:36 PM

_Margot_ said:

bean said:

Mankarlen said:
Says Fucking who you! ! ! ! ! ! Or soddum



Wow. Just... wow.



Could you translate this for me please?



Is there an "English/Drunken Gibberish" dictionary?

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

MAR 18, 2008 09:40 PM

_Margot_ said:

bean said:

Mankarlen said:
Says Fucking who you! ! ! ! ! ! Or soddum



Wow. Just... wow.



Could you translate this for me please?



RedArmyPunk

RedArmyPunk

Waterford, MI
November 2005

MAR 18, 2008 10:24 PM

what you said is true about the parties, in this case the democratic party being private entities and being able to choose their candidates any way they want to, etc. this in my view would be fine if it were not for the fact that in the united states there are only two viable parties for becoming president. laws, rules, and stipulations have been put in place by them to make it nearly impossible to change that, except by them. so because of this and rightly so, people consider these parties to very public, and want say in "the process." If we had 3, 4, 5, or more viable parties like some other countries, most likely people's opinion's would be more in line with yours.


401kboy said:
Everyone misses the point of the "super" delegates. In 1972, on the strength of his success in the primaries, George McGovern won the Democratic nomination. This was the first time in US history that primaries played THE signifcant role in choosing a nominee. McGovern went on to lose in a landslide to a petty, corrupt fearmonger named RIchard Nixon.

The DNC decided at that point that leaving the nominating process in the hands of individual voters could prove to be a recipe for disaster. As a private organization, and keep in mind that political parties have no official sanction, the DNC is free to make whatever rules they like for choosing their nominee. They are well aware that a weak presidential candidate can be a detriment to other races: congressional, gubernatorial and other state level votes.

The "super" delegate idea is to provide a sanity check on the presidential nominating process. It is designed to give party leaders a chance to put the brakes on a popular yet unelectable candidate and spare the party the embarassment of another McGovern.

With the latest revelations on Obama's pastor and friend of 20 years raising questions of his real political and social beliefs the Democrats are facing the possibility of another 1972 - a weak economy, unpopular war and a White House embroiled in scandal SHOULD result in an easy win; but nominating a candidate that the majority of voters view as a radical can lose it all for them.

Believe me, I do not want to see Hillary Clinton nominated. I'm not sure I want to see Obama nominated either. The best hope for the Democrats might well be a brokered convention that results in someone else being chosen. I can think of half a dozen prominent Democrats who are much better presidential material than either of them.



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