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Super Shitty Tuesday

TUESDAY MARCH 4 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By FearTheReaper.

TAGS: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Democratic Primary

Remember way, way, way back in late February, when I wrote an article about the pathetic campaign Hillary was running? Seems like almost 14 days ago and now here we are in March, and the same thing is happening. Only this time, Hillary has switched to new, more destructive talking points.

First let’s start with the 3 a.m. ad. The heinous ad one would expect to come from Rudy Giuliani, not a Democrat.



Oh, fuck yes! At 3 a.m. there is not a person on Earth I want running the show more than Hillary. Why? Because of all her experience during national crises. You know, like, uh…uh….

Obama shot back with a great response.



For those concerned that Obama will not be able to handle the right wing smear machine, you just received an answer. This response ad was created HOURS after Hillary’s ad began airing. I still don’t think John Kerry has responded to the Swift Boat ads. This is a good sign, but also sad because a Democrat is attacking another Democrat on defense. Democrats will always have an image problem on security and when one Dem implies the other is soft on the issue, it’s a big, big fuck up. Get ready for Republicans saying this all summer:


Even Hillary thinks Obama’s weak on terror.


I know, she didn’t say that specifically. But you’d have to be a retard not to get the implication.

Next up, Hillary has decided to claim that John McCain is more qualified to be president than Obama.



Oh, good. Really nice work. You are a true party leader, Hillary. Are there any other Republicans who have more experience than the possible Democratic nominee for president? Any other things McCain is better at than Obama? Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow pretty much summed up how fucking stupid Hillary is being:


Rachel Maddow: "This is what you say if you want to be McCain's choice for Vice President. It is not what you say if you are running for the Democratic nomination."

Keith Olbermann: "Unbelievable."


Oh, but Hillary’s battle tested. She survived the '90s with incredibly low approval ratings, so she’ll be the perfect Democratic candidate, right? That seems to be her supporters’ main talking point. They claim Obama hasn’t been vetted yet and when the Republican machine is done, he’ll be screwed.

Really? You mean like Hillary? She’s a walking corpse. To survive the Republican machine, you have to be somewhat liked by the public after it’s done – like Al Gore. Hillary is far from Al Gore. And she will be a terrible candidate if the Dems choose her – and not just because she's hated. She also clearly doesn’t know when to shut her pie hole. Here she is on "60 Minutes", not saying the right thing, again.



She’s going to “take him on the basis of what he says. And, you know, there isn’t any reason to doubt that.” Uh huh. There are only two ways to interpret this answer: A) You are a shitty politician because you do not know how to be EXACT with your phrasing. Or B) You knew exactly what you were doing with this answer and tried to muddy the water of the Muslim issue.

I’m going to go with B. Because the obvious answer to this question, if you are a leader of the Democratic Party and not a GOP operative, is: “No. Obama is not a Muslim. He is a Christian. I find it disgusting this question is being raised to frighten Americans with blatant lies. It must stop.”

But she didn’t do that, because her campaign is now about weak attacks, rumors and lies. What is expected from Republicans should be loathed when coming from Democrats. With each passing day, it’s becoming more and more obvious that Hillary no longer has a message, except, “He’s not ready,” he’s giving “false hope,” it’s a “fairy tale,” and he’s a “blank screen.” A couple of months ago, Obama passed Hillary and became the visionary. She simply has no answer. Their policies are too similar, so it comes down to who they are. And that’s not even close.

And it goes on and on. The Clinton campaign has gone as far as to issue a memo stating that if Obama doesn’t kick the crap out of Hillary today, then he sucks. Seriously. It’s retarded.


To: Interested Parties
From: The Clinton Campaign

Date: Friday, February 29, 2008
RE: Obama Must-Wins



The media has anointed Barack Obama the presumptive nominee and he's playing the part. 



With an eleven state winning streak coming out of February, Senator Obama is riding a surge of momentum that has enabled him to pour unprecedented resources into Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont. 



The Obama campaign and its allies are outspending us two to one in paid media and have sent more staff into the March 4 states. In fact, when all is totaled, Senator Obama and his allies have outspent Senator Clinton by a margin of $18.4 million to $9.2 million on advertising in the four states that are voting next Tuesday. 



Senator Obama has campaigned hard in these states. He has spent time meeting editorial boards, courting endorsers, holding rallies, and - of course - making speeches. 


If he cannot win all of these states with all this effort, there's a problem.

Should Senator Obama fail to score decisive victories with all of the resources and effort he is bringing to bear, the message will be clear:

Democrats, the majority of whom have favored Hillary in the primary contests held to date, have their doubts about Senator Obama and are having second thoughts about him as a prospective standard-bearer.


With logic like that, I don’t know how we can’t vote for her. Seriously, if Obama ends up with more delegates, Dems should obviously pick Hillary, because that will mean she’s the stronger candidate.

Hillary’s spokesmen Howard Wolfson and Phil Singer continued this brilliant attack yesterday.


Let's say we do win in Texas and Ohio. Then we'd we will be able to say that we've won Texas, Ohio, New York, California, Massachusetts, Arkansas, Tennessee, New Mexico, and Arizona, a diverse set of states from coast to coast, north, south, east, and west, red and blue... Senator Obama came into Ohio and Texas with every possible advantage. He outspent us massively. His allies outspent us massively. He and his allies have declared the race over so many times I can't even count. And despite that we have been successful.


If by “successful,” you mean 11 straight primary defeats, then you are waaaaaaaaay successful. If you win Texas and Ohio, that's 2 out of 13. I’d actually like to know what you geniuses are doing running for the White House when you clearly belong in the Bush White House of Doublespeak.

On and on it goes.


The Monday morning Clinton attack was more than just the hour-long conference call. Even before the clock struck noon, the campaign had sent out 15 emails to reporters on, passing along damaging news articles concerning Obama, offering up condemning Clinton statements, and suggesting questions the media should ask the Illinois Senator.


And the media did just that. They picked up the ball and ran with it. Obama was questioned about the Rezko affair – which seems to have absolutely nothing to it. And he was also repeatedly questioned about the NAFTA issue, which actually seems to be fair game. It was a fuck up by an Obama strategist and they have to answer for it. But if you've just spent your day attacking your opponent, instead of lifting your candidate, I'd say your way off course.

Yesterday, the Clinton camp also put out a new ad, attacking Obama because he has not held a hearing on Afghanistan since taking over as the head of the Senate Subcommittee on European Affairs.



Holy fuck. It is so stupid for a member of Congress to talk shit about another member of Congress skipping out on their duty when running for higher office, because that is exactly what she is doing. How fucking retarded are the people running her campaign? I suggest the lady look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary.

In all her time in the Senate, Hillary has only chaired one subcommittee, and has only attended one hearing of that subcommittee. For those keeping score: Hillary 1, Obama 0. Really fucking aced him on that point.

You’ll notice a trend at this point. First the 3 a.m. ad. Next Hillary says Obama is less experienced than McCain. Now, he is not doing his job. These are all attacks on his great weakness: Security. This will be fantastic ammo for the Republicans if Obama wins the nomination. So much for running on your own “experience” Hillary.


"Now, I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say," Sen. Clinton said Saturday, while on the campaign trail. "He's never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth an [anti-war] speech he made in 2002."


And you put forth a vote for the Iraq War, dipshit. Obama made an anti-war speech during a Senate campaign – when the invasion was immensely popular. He took an unpopular stance that could have cost him a place in Congress. Sorry, that means something.

And we can’t forget the dirty tricks. The Texas primary is split into two parts: First a primary, then a caucus. The delegates are split around 66% from the primary and 33% from the caucus. Obama does very well in caucuses. So, the best way to stop that kind of Democratic movement is with total bullshit.

The Clinton campaign is training their precinct captains to attempt to take over the caucuses.


The materials say in part, "DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles."

It goes on to say, "If our supporters are outnumbered, ask the Temporary Chair if one of our supporters can serves as the Secretary, in the interest of fairness.


Uh, how is that fair? Wouldn’t fair be if the majority are represented by the leadership positions? And how do the words “DO NOT” work in a democracy?


The control of the sign-in sheets and the announcement of the delegates allotted to each candidate are the critical functions of the Chair and Secretary. This is why it is so important that Hillary supporters hold these positions.


Great. At least somebody learned something from George W. Bush. If you can’t win by just getting the most votes, figure out another, more Soviet-like way.

Make no mistake about it; all of this bullshit is starting to tear the party apart.


Interesting result from a recent survey conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press: If their favored candidate is not the Democratic nominee, a quarter of Hillary Clinton's primary supporters would defect and vote for John McCain in November, while only 10 percent of Barack Obama's supporters would do the same.


I always thought it would be the Obama people who were turned off by Clinton, but lately the Clinton supporters have been truly hateful toward Obama. And the fascinating thing is that most of the nasty attacks have come from the Clinton campaign. For the most part, the Obama camp has remained above the dirt. And now the right wing is taking notice.


As Hillary Clinton battles to keep her presidential bid alive, she may be getting help from an unlikely source: conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh.

Limbaugh has been actively urging his Texas listeners to cross over and vote for Clinton in that state's open primary Tuesday, arguing it helps the Republicans if the Democratic race remains unsettled for weeks to come.


Perfect. At least he’s got one thing right.


He also said Clinton is more willing than the Republican National Committee and John McCain's campaign to criticize Barack Obama.

"We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically. It's obvious that the Republicans are not going to do it, they don't have the stomach for it."


Well, Rush, your wish is coming true.

Instead of presenting herself as the better candidate and emphasizing her clear vision for the country, Hillary is in the gutter, making nasty attacks that will be picked up by the Republican machine when Obama wins. At this point, she is literally running against change and hope. The Democrats cannot afford much more of her dirty campaign tactics, because for the first time Obama’s approval ratings are going down. I guess if Hillary doesn’t win, nobody gets to win.

UPDATE. This was just revealed on a Americablog.. I'm just amazed at the depths Hillary Clinton will sink to.

 

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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAR 09, 2008 03:10 AM

Saraah said:

Saraah said:

FearTheReaper said:

Saraah said:

FearTheReaper said:
Turns out Obama didn't handle it well, because his people aren't the ones who spoke to the Canadian government about NAFTA.

Turns out it was people associated with a woman named Hillary Clinton.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)


If the Prime Minister is seeking the first link in the chain of events that has rocked the U.S. presidential race, he need look no further than his chief of staff, Ian Brodie, The Canadian Press has learned.

Mr. Brodie wandered over to speak to Finance Department officials and chatted amiably with journalists %u2014 who appreciated this rare moment of direct access to the top official in Mr. Harper's notoriously tight-lipped government.

The former university professor found himself in a room with CTV employees where he was quickly surrounded by a gaggle of reporters while other journalists were within earshot of other colleagues.

At the end of an extended conversation, Mr. Brodie was asked about remarks aimed by the Democratic candidates at Ohio's anti-NAFTA voters that carried serious economic implications for Canada.

Since 75 per cent of Canadian exports go to the U.S., Mr. Obama and Ms. Clinton's musings about reopening the North American free-trade pact had caused some concern.

Mr. Brodie downplayed those concerns.

"Quite a few people heard it," said one source in the room.

"He said someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. . . That someone called us and told us not to worry."



So, not only did he react appropriately, she was the one lying about NAFTA.



Wait, am I missing something? Obama's people aren't the ones who spoke to the Canadian government about NAFTA? Huh? That's not even what your article says.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
There was an actual meeting that took place on this topic between someone from Obama's campaign (Goolsbee) and the Canadian goverment. There is a hard copy of the memo that references it, correct? Obama's campaign has tried to say the meeting notes were taken out of context, but as far as I can tell you are the only person on Earth claiming the conversation never happened.

Whereas the Clinton connection was not just hearsay and a casual remark, but the Clinton campaign has actually strongly denied and called for them to back it up with a source.


Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said the campaign ``did not sanction nor would we ever sanction anyone to say such a thing.''

``We flatly deny the report,'' Singer said. ``We give the Canadian government blanket immunity to reveal the name of anyone they think they've heard from.''



Source



Not at all. Here is what happened in order.

Obama's economic advisor met with Canadian embassy and told them EXACTLY what Obama has been saying on campaign trail



Source? Because everything I have found has Goolsbee claiming his intentions were "misread" or "taken out of context", but nothing reputable anywhere saying that they statements were not made.

FearTheReaper said:
Hillary's people contacted Canadian government and told them not to worry about NAFTA, changes would not be made. Opposite of what she is saying on campaign trail.



Again: source? Because that NEVER HAPPENED. At least, there is no evidence it did. The Clinton camp, as I noted above, basically dared the Canadians to prove it did. Because it DID NOT. The only reason that idea even got floated was because an anonymous source overheard Ian Brodie suggesting it had.

FearTheReaper said:
In the end, Obama and Canadians deny his economic advisor said anything different from what Obama has been saying on campaign trail.

But Canadian's PM claimed Hillary said the opposite.



Again, no. In fact, according to the Canadian PM, the Clinton camp never briefed Ottawa on NAFTA, however Obama's team did..

Honestly, I think Brodie was just talking out of his ass and trying to calm everyone down. And maybe BOTH camps gave some kind of assurance to the Canadians. Unfortunately for Obama, there is only evidence of ONE, and it's not Clinton's. But claiming they both did it (or even worse, that Clinton did and Obama did not) is just willfully ignoring the evidence on the table at this point.


.
Well, wait a couple of days, then respond. Since I posted, the PM has made this statement. Kudos to you.

As far as the Obama memo, go look it up yourself. It's everywhere. Never happened. At some point I stop doing people's home work for them.

scylis

scylis

Seattle, WA
November 2004

MAR 09, 2008 04:06 AM

FearTheReaper said:
At some point I stop doing people's home work for them.



does this mean you're not going to do that English paper i paid you write for me?

abbazappa

abbazappa

Los Osos, CA
June 2006

MAR 09, 2008 04:19 AM

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

MAR 09, 2008 09:06 AM

^^excellent video excerpt, and there is Joe Scarborough secretly wanting to defend her as the GOP sees her as a better candidate to run against (of blah blah I do not buy that he is an 'independent').

Nolan_Void

Nolan_Void

Salisbury, NC
July 2004

MAR 09, 2008 11:29 AM

LostLucy said:
^^excellent video excerpt, and there is Joe Scarborough secretly wanting to defend her as the GOP sees her as a better candidate to run against (of blah blah I do not buy that he is an 'independent').



He's about as independent as the character Stephen Colbert plays.

abbazappa

abbazappa

Los Osos, CA
June 2006

MAR 09, 2008 02:31 PM

Nolan_Void said:

LostLucy said:
^^excellent video excerpt, and there is Joe Scarborough secretly wanting to defend her as the GOP sees her as a better candidate to run against (of blah blah I do not buy that he is an 'independent').



He's about as independent as the character Stephen Colbert plays.


He might be independent as in he is a conservative and not a GOP party loyaltist, just like Glenn Beck isn't a party loyaltist but is a conservative that is independent from the two partys (altho he swings more GOP then not). I dunno i just thought the video was really funny

Clidna

Clidna

Emo, ON
January 2005

MAR 09, 2008 02:39 PM

Oh for pete's sake, don't you guys know that Canadian politicians will say anything to get in print? We don't have anything newsworthy going on in Canada (not that any of our newsworthy political stuff would make it to the US media anyway), so our pollys have to jump on the American election bandwagon. Don't take it personally - these are the same guys that yell at eachother and call eachother scumbags, dogs, and grave-robbers when they are in session, in hopes of getting a little print. (They do apologize later, though, so that makes it ok.) biggrin

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

MAR 10, 2008 11:55 AM

Clidna said:
Oh for pete's sake, don't you guys know that Canadian politicians will say anything to get in print? We don't have anything newsworthy going on in Canada (not that any of our newsworthy political stuff would make it to the US media anyway), so our pollys have to jump on the American election bandwagon. Don't take it personally - these are the same guys that yell at eachother and call eachother scumbags, dogs, and grave-robbers when they are in session, in hopes of getting a little print. (They do apologize later, though, so that makes it ok.) biggrin



Oh our politicians would never, ever... confused

What I am treasuring today is what Dick Morris's advises Obama to do re: the red phone... :



Suggestion for Obama:


The next time Hillary uses the recycled red phone ad, counter with one of your own.
When the phone rings in the middle of the night, have a woman's voice, with a flat
Midwestern accent, answer it and say, "Hold on" into the receiver. Then she should
shout, "Bill! It's for you!"


Because with Hillary's complete lack of any meaningful experience in foreign affairs,
and her lack of the "testing" that she boldly claims, she'll be yelling for Bill.

SERIOUSLY. surreal

mingol

mingol

Singapore
July 2005

MAR 10, 2008 02:16 PM

LostLucy said:

Suggestion for Obama:

The next time Hillary uses the recycled red phone ad, counter with one of your own. When the phone rings in the middle of the night, have a woman's voice, with a flat Midwestern accent, answer it and say, "Hold on" into the receiver. Then she should shout, "Bill! It's for you!"

Because with Hillary's complete lack of any meaningful experience in foreign affairs, and her lack of the "testing" that she boldly claims, she'll be yelling for Bill.


Heh. Not a bad idea, actually. It drives me nuts to see Hillary pontificating about her greater experience, which in actual fact doesn't exceed Obama's unless she counts her husband's as her own.

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