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  • THURSDAY FEBRUARY 28 2008 6:00 AM

Tim Russert: Super Douche

I was trying to focus on how much I don’t like Hillary Clinton during Tuesday night’s debate, but some asshole kept distracting me. The asshole's name was Tim Russert. Russert’s “job” on Tuesday was to be a moderator. Instead, he wanted to be the star of the debate and decided the best way to achieve his goal was acting like a twunt. He was argumentative, bossy and, most important, asked really stupid questions. Until we get rid of douche bags like Russert, we’re never going to have a decent debate in this country. He exemplifies everything wrong with politics and Washington, DC.

At one point during his spectacular effort, Timmy decided to just make shit up.


MR. RUSSERT: I want to ask both of you this question, then. If we — if this scenario plays out and the Americans get out in total and al Qaeda resurges and Iraq goes to hell, do you hold the right, in your mind as American president, to re-invade, to go back into Iraq to stabilize it?

SEN. CLINTON: You know, Tim, you ask a lot of hypotheticals. And I believe that what’s –

MR. RUSSERT: But this is reality.

SEN. CLINTON: No — well, it isn’t reality. You’re making lots of different hypothetical assessments.


Timmy, reality is when something actually occurs. You have created fiction. I know this because it has not happened. I actually applaud Hillary for shutting this asshole down and not answering his bullshit question.


But what if the Iraqis open an ancient cave and release goblins from inner Earth, what will you do then?

Uh, that's not real.

Yes, it is! I am Russert. I make life!


The moment that caused me to lose it was when he let loose with 90 Farrakhan questions. Because, with all that is going on in America, what we really need to know about is what Obama thinks about what someone never said about something Louis Farrakhan said. Seriously, that’s what his question amounted to.



Nicely done. Never mind that Russert had the facts totally wrong. Jeremiah Wright is no longer head of Trinity UCC. Dude is retired. And he NEVER SAID THOSE WORDS. They were printed in a magazine, which written by Wright's daughter. The magazine that printed this statement wasn’t even under the control of Trinity UCC at the time. The magazine hasn’t been associated with the church since 2005. So, Obama has to reject Farrakhan because a guy he knows has a daughter who printed something nice about Farrakhan. Fucking amazing. Russert brought this up because Obama is black and those other black dudes are not saying nice things. And all black people know each other. And it’s a one-way street because we’ve seen a train full of white politicians over the years connected to ministers who have said some horrible fucking things with not a question raised.

Did Huckabee ever get a question from Timmy about his James Dobson endorsement? Or about something Dobson's daughter wrote? What about the many of the lunatics who endorsed Bush? Did any of their nephews ever draw a weird picture? Feel free to watch future debates on MSNBC. Let me know if Russert will goes after McCain for the endorsement he received from anti-gay, Armageddon loving Pastor John C. Hagee. I won’t hold my breath. (Because I would die.)

Oh, and “Trinity United Church.” Hey, Timmy, it’s called the Trinity United Church of Christ. Try nailing down the name of the fucking church before you blather this nonsense out of your pie hole.

The most amazing thing about the Farrakhan exchange was that even after Obama said he “denounced” Farrakhan’s statements, Russert kept going and actually used quotes. What is it about the word “denounce” that you don’t understand Timmy? Oh, and why would anybody care about this subject?

That was the first time Obama has had to deal with the simplistic thug-like questioning of Russert. Hillary has had to deal with this moron for years. When she was running for the Senate in New York, Russert revealed himself to be a Clinton-hating douche bag.

During one debate, he actually asked Hillary if she would apologize for “branding your husband's accusers as part of a right-wing conspiracy.” Uh, no. Mainly because it was a right-wing conspiracy. We know that because ONE OF THE DUDES INVOLVED IN IT SAID IT WAS. But the truth was not enough for Russet and he kept going.


Do you regret misleading the American people?


I don't know. Do you regret not knowing what the word "irony" means?

How the fuck does this clown have a job? As a moderator, his job is to be impartial. He is far from it. Later he was interviewed about his moronic debate moment.


Q. [Kurtz] One controversial moment in your career was in September 2000, when you moderated the debate in the Senate race between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Congressman Rick Lazio. You asked if she would apologize for branding her husband's accusers as part of a right-wing conspiracy. You asked, "Do you regret misleading the American people?" That caused quite a stir. Did you go too far on that?

A. [Russert] No.

Q. Absolutely fair game?

A. Oh sure.


Sure, as in, “I have no professional ethics.”

It has gone on and on with Russert. Throughout this campaign, he has been attacking Clinton during each debate he moderated. In September....


Clinton found herself in the spotlight for much of the debate, both because of criticism from her opponents and due to tough questioning from Russert. Clinton and Russert sparred several times, notably on the issue of Iran.


And, in October...


Mrs. Clinton walked into the debate expecting to be the target of attacks but as the night went on, she appeared surprised by the intensity as she was challenged not only by her opponents but by the moderators, Brian Williams and Tim Russert of NBC.

In an exchange with Mr. Russert, arguably her third toughest opponent on the stage, Mrs. Clinton repeatedly declined to say whether she would push the National Archives to release correspondence from Mrs. Clinton to Mr. Clinton in the White House when he was president.


“Arguably her third toughest opponent.” What a douche bag. Expect more of this from Russet when it’s down to McCain and Obama.

What politicians and Washington pundits can’t seem to get through their idiotic skulls is we don’t want this shit anymore. They are cheapening the process. We’d like the bickering to stop. We’d like the one team against the other team at all costs to vanish. All of the “gotcha” questions by tools like Russert only cheapen an already cheap process even more. We’d like to know how the politicians are going to deal with our problems, not what one thinks about what a guy said about Louis Farrakhan. We don’t need to know if Hillary produced a photo of Obama in a Kenyan outfit. Russert is an example of everything wrong with America. Please burn him.

 

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401kboy

401kboy

Woodbridge, NJ
May 2007

FEB 28, 2008 07:32 PM

Russert is a great interviewer. He leads people into places they don't necessarily want to go, and is always well prepared. That doesn't translate into being a good moderator, as the skill sets are very different.

strndniowa

strndniowa

Grimes, IA
May 2007

FEB 28, 2008 07:52 PM

OK- just to jump right in here- that was a pretty ridiculous debate, when it comes down to it...if someone likes you, even though you do or do not like or support them means what????? just a hypothetical here: Adolf likes VW's, and Anne likes VW's, so therefore Anne and Adolf are both 1940's German Nationalists...???? and VW to this day stands for the German Nationalists...????
This election seems to somehow spend most of it's time with the Urinalist's or moderators (sic) debating non issues...I'd like to see a debate over what the candidates will do about jobs being moved overseas, or our lack of a GNP, or lack of healthcare, or what to do about, well, the recession that may or may not be starting right now...
I'd like to see this election decided on real issues instead of what our current popular media thinks maybe might be an issue that may appeal to the vast majority of the people....
As far as I can see the Journalists on SG have the popular media beat hands down...and that is, no offense, pretty sad...
What's next on @bs, ^bc,%nn, or<bc... a serious in depth look over what color to paint the oval office?
Sad part is the popular media is doing the same great job as the fringe media...the only real reporting seems to be in college newspapers and e-news....

Fixer

Fixer

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

FEB 28, 2008 08:00 PM

damn, Mrs. Senator Hilary Clinton really wanted to throw Mr. Senator Barack Obama under the bus with her semantics game at the end there, she's really grabbing at straws now.

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

FEB 28, 2008 08:07 PM

Fixer said:
damn, Mrs. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton really wanted to throw Mr. Senator Barack Hussein Obama under the bus with her semantics game at the end there, she's really grabbing at straws now.


Fixed.

Frenchinhaler

Frenchinhaler

Ames, IA
March 2005

FEB 28, 2008 08:16 PM

There's been like 900 debates already, Jobs/NAFTA/the economy has been beaten to death, both Obama and Hillary have pretty similar plans. They both want to talk about Health care all night long as you can see from this last debate with Hillary getting hit with "TV doesn't stop". They have talked about 'the issues' the problem is that they both have pretty similar stances in general. It comes down to who you think can actually pull it off and how intelligently they will go about it. These debates seem like they were a ploy from Hillary anyway. She was getting(and still is) getting clobbered in fundraising and debates are free air time. Also I think Hillary is a pretty strong debater if she keeps herself in line, probably better than Obama at her best.

Also, yes, with that whole Farrakhan thing Hillary was trying to attack him, and it was just a stupid time to try to. Would anyone seriously believe that Obama is an anti-semite? From what I understand Farrakhan didn't even officially support Obama, he just praised him, likely because he knew his support would be fodder for morons. Take that last bit with a grain of salt though, as I heard it secondhand and never bothered to fact-check it.

Mr_Matt_

Mr_Matt_

Pompano Beach, FL
July 2005

FEB 28, 2008 08:17 PM

ckdexterhaven said:

Fixer said:
damn, Mrs. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton really wanted to throw Mr. Senator Barack Hussein Obama under the bus with her semantics game at the end there, she's really grabbing at straws now.


Tired.



Fixed.

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

FEB 28, 2008 08:20 PM

MrMat said:

ckdexterhaven said:

Fixer said:
damn, Mrs. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton really wanted to throw Mr. Senator Barack Hussein Obama under the bus with her semantics game at the end there, she's really grabbing at straws now.


Tired.



Fixed.


I blame Jon Stewart.

Shell_Shock

Shell_Shock

Rockmart, GA
May 2007

FEB 29, 2008 04:41 AM

PantherNesmith said:
What about the fact that we can't even vote right?

Or the fact that the president now has an unprecedented amount of power?



Not necessarily unprecedented.

Shell_Shock

Shell_Shock

Rockmart, GA
May 2007

FEB 29, 2008 04:44 AM

Bump-sorry-I am so glad that I am not the only person in America that finds Russert to be a "Super Douche"

Phantom_medic

Phantom_medic

Des Moines, IA
October 2007

FEB 29, 2008 04:57 AM

MetalsmithJJ said:
FTR,

I usually love your posts; you are a great commentor on today's politics.

However, I have to point out that Russert's question about wether Obama will go back into Iraq if there is a terrorist 'surge' that threatens to topple the government we installed is not based in hypotheticals or fiction, but in recent US history.

I mean, many people are comparing Iraq to Vietnam... do you remember what happened once we left? It's a valid question, as terrible as it is to ask.

The Iraqis don't want us or out type of government there. The Iraq Occupation is not a matter of when we can win, but when we will finally admit defeat.



Your comparison doesn't work. we are not trying to fight one organized force trying to unify a country into its form of government. We are fighting several decentralized groups who dont like the idea of our way of life, our religion, or anything about us. Also involved are Sectarian divides in Islam going back hundreds of years. When we pulled out of Vietnam, Saigon fell to conventional forces of North Vietnam. The government of the north took over the south, and the country was unified under communism.

In Iraq, the forces we fight are non governmental. if we leave, no conventional force is likely to sweep in and take over. Terrorist groups may strengthen their positions here, but it will not be the same type of pullout as in Vietnam. No one will take over, most likely, the region will simply destabilize without proper security,and a civil war will start between groups wanting to take over.

What the media doesnt make a big deal of is that Al Qaida in Iraq is not the only major terrorist group active,and in fact, is only a major group in some areas. There is not one large terrorist organization working in Iraq, there are several smaller ones. There are also local militias, and tribal factions in certain areas. Iraq is really in no way analogous to Vietnam.

As to the assertion that the people of Iraq want nothing to do with us or our form of government, id like to know where you get your information. Most of the Iraqis I've talked to don't mind us or our form of government. During the first free elections we held, people were running through firefights to vote. It really is only a small group of extremists fighting us in Iraq. Yes, not all of the people want us here, but the majority like what we have done for them.

And finally, your statement that we cannot "win" in Iraq. We cannot in a conventional manner. But in a counter insurgency such as the one we are engaged in, we can, and we are taking large moves in the right direction. we are training and equipping local security forces, rebuilding infrastructure, providing what aid we can. Unfortunately, what is lacking is support from home. sure, people support the troops, but congressional funding cuts for the war hurt us badly, as does the constant negative media coverage. Rather than show a broad look at what is going on here, the media covers only the negative aspects of the occupation of Iraq. This supplies an image to the American people that is not complete. We have indeed done much good here, and though there are still many problems, and much violence, things have gotten much much better than they were. Perhaps if the media would actually show some of the good were doing, we might actually get the money we need to get more equipment to save soldiers lives.

alaric

alaric

I'm lost
June 2005

FEB 29, 2008 06:18 AM

The media is an extension of corporate power. Guess what will happen in the general election (GE)?

Obama or hillary will be eaten alive by the media that fed them so generously during the primaries by utterly ignoring their democratic opponents. That said, its pretty obvious that the corporate media wants obama and not hillary. You democrats (i'm independent) might want to think about that.

Russert is just setting the stage for the GE.

Its going to be ugly either way but it'll probably be uglier and more personal if/when obama gets the nomination.





401kboy

401kboy

Woodbridge, NJ
May 2007

FEB 29, 2008 10:29 AM

it seems that no one has noticed, but the Kurds ARE ALREADY AT WAR WITH TURKEY!

Why is the Turkish invasion getting hardly any coverage, anywhere? How can anyone believe that we are succeeding in Iraq if one of their neighbors sent 10,000 troops across the border?

Nessuno

Nessuno

Washington, DC
May 2006

FEB 29, 2008 11:11 AM

401kboy said:
Why is the Turkish invasion getting hardly any coverage, anywhere?



Because the US government said it was aware of the invasion and fine with it. And because the media doesn't usually cover wars between dark skinned people, almost no matter how bad the death toll gets. As evidenced by Darfur. That isn't meant to be snarky, that's just the pattern I see in all US media coverage.


How can anyone believe that we are succeeding in Iraq if one of their neighbors sent 10,000 troops across the border?



The people who believe we're winning have to ignore so many facts and realities that an invasion by another country is probably being catagorized as Turkey fighting it's own terrorist problems. Then again, I've yet to see any real right-wing media coverage of it, so I'm talking purely in terms of theory. Anyone have a link on the right's view of the invasion? I can't find any other than a short Fox news piece that was relatively neutral on the subject.

Phantom_medic

Phantom_medic

Des Moines, IA
October 2007

FEB 29, 2008 09:17 PM

Also, the Kurds and the Turks have been at war for awhile. its not highly publicized, and the Turks have never come into Iraq before, but Kurdish terrorist groups have been attacking Turkish sites for years, because the Kurds want Kurdistan back, but Iraq and Turkey wont give up the land. In Iraq, if they break loose now, most likely the U.S. would not intervene and the Iraqi Gov't is too weak still to stop them, but the territory in Turkey would be harder, thus terrorist tactics much like the Palestinians attacking Israel. They didn't get media coverage before, they don't now. its not a big deal to the media and never has been.

BellyJack

BellyJack

I'm lost
May 2005

MAR 01, 2008 12:16 AM

PointBlank said:

bald_eagle said:
I thought he did a decent job. It isn't like he skewered one but not the other. He made them address issues they were trying to avoid - especially Clinton.



Personally, (and I'm backing Obama) I thought he was clearly going after Hillary like he ALWAYS does. Yes, he was also unfair to Obama, but he was out for blood when it came to Hillary. I look forward to his McCain asskissing.



Perhaps in this race he is poking at both Hillary and Barack, but I'd have more respect for Mr. Russert, and give him greater credence if he showed the same intransigent attitude when George W. Bush was running for President.

Instead, he fell onto his backside, writhed around, and scampered his legs into the air like a too-happy puppy. We were, after all, talking about a presidential hopeful with a black cloud of idiocy cloaking him like a Boston pea-soup fog, and Timothy Russert bought his "aw, shucks" act hook, line, and sinker.

Let the ass-kissing commence! tongue

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