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Taliban: Can You Hear Me Now?

WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 27 2008 8:30 AM

Submitted by DevilsReject. Edited By TheFuckOffKid.

TAGS: Taliban, cell phone, turnitoff, WTF?

The Taliban, whose regime has banned such things as clapping at sporting events, dancing, VCRs, pool tables, anything that plays music, television, lobster, kite flying, nail polish and a wide variety of other things has now given Afghanistan cell phone companies an ultimatum.


The Taliban wants cell phone service to go dark from 5 p.m. in the evening until 7 a.m. in the morning.

The towers and offices of mobile phone operators in Afghanistan are being pressured to shut down operations at night by the Taliban. The former rulers of Afghanistan and current insurgent group held "talks" with the four major mobile companies in Afghanistan today, and gave them three days to go dark for 14 hours per day—or else.



Basically, anyone in Afghanistan would only have cellular service for about ten hours a day. I am not a big fan of cell phones, I get irritated when I see someone driving and drifting in their lane on the highway, while holding a phone to their ear. The Taliban must be worried about people talking while driving during rush hour, right?

Nope.

The reason for the threat is the Taliban's belief that American soldiers and rebels within Afghanistan are using mobile phones to track down remaining Taliban members.



"Since the occupying forces stationed in Afghanistan usually at night use mobile phones for espionage to track down the mujahideen, the Islamic Emirate gave a three-day ultimatum to all mobile phone firms to switch off their phones from five in the afternoon until seven in the morning," Taliban spokesperson Qari Mohammad Yousuf told Reuters, ironically via mobile phone (and presumably during daylight).



Evidently that T-Mobile: Pay-As-You-Go thing isn't working out as planned for the Taliban, but they got a really good deal on all those Sidekicks. They also believe that American Forces are using old technology to track them, not the billions of dollars worth of communication and spy sattelites.

Shutting down the cell phone service for that long in Afghanistan is a bad thing for the innocent people just trying live a normal life. The country doesn't have a very good land based infrastructure. Once cell phone service is deactivated, communications between people, emergency services and other vital sources is for the most part, cut off completely.

The situation is not like it is here in the United States, if our cell phone service fails, we can still pick up the land line phone in the house and make and receive phone calls. In most cases, the cell phone is the only means of communication for most of the people in Afghanistan.

A lack of cell phone service to this multitude of people would not only cut their communications to other people, emergency services and other vital sources, it would also leave the innocent people wide open to attack by the Taliban, without being able to communicate it to anyone else.

I personally don't think for a second that the Taliban's only reason for shutting this system down is for their own safety. This is just another case where the totalitarian Taliban extremists believe that world should conform to them.

Fortunately, Afghanistan's communication companies are used to this type of thing.

This isn't the first time the Taliban has challenged mobile operators in Afghanistan. In the past, the group has accused the phone companies of actively working with US troops as well as NATO, although not much has happened as a result of those threats. Still, it's no doubt unsettling to the mobile operators to know that they may be targeted for continuing with business as usual



I am far from a great military leader. Leading thousands of soldiers to battle to the death is more than likely not in my future. I know cell phones can be tracked through GPS if it's turned on, and I once saw on CSI:New York that you can triangulate someone's position between towers with a Dell Inspiron if they make a call. Wouldn't it be a little less difficult if you know, the Taliban shut their personal cell phones off, rather than making an entire country go dark?

If they did shut down the entire service down for the night, it would stop that drunk dialing once the bars close, that's never a bad thing and could prevent embarrassment and that feeling of regret.


DevilsReject feels superior to the Taliban because he knows how Airplane Mode works.

 

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Nessuno

Nessuno

Washington, DC
May 2006

FEB 27, 2008 09:07 AM

I didn't know about this. Like you note though, they've made similar demands in the past. Hopefully the companies will stay open. Theoretically they're greedy enough to not want to lose money for 14 hours a day. But on the ideological side, they shouldn't cowtow to the Taliban's demands out of principle. If they agree to this now the Taliban might, and probably will, see this as a method that gets results thus making them likely to place stricter requirements in the future. Hopefully the company's greed will win out.

Good piece. Keep writing.

Bronk

Bronk

Clearwater, FL
June 2007

FEB 27, 2008 09:17 AM

Um...how the hell is the Taliban getting service in caves in the sparse, rocky, mountainous regions of Afghanistan? I want their service provider.

Maybe they're forcing the mobile service providers to shut down at night because that's when the Taliban does most of their suicide bombing training and the dang cell phone signals are accidentally triggering the bombing vest on the rookies in training.

Salam: "Dang it Ahmed, another rookie's vest went off again. That's the 3rd time this week."

Ahmed: "Salam, I don't swear that I told all of them at the beginning of the Vest Fitting Class to turn off their cell phones. So... do we still tell his family that he is now with 72 virgins?"

Salam: "Ahmed, don't you ever wonder where all these virgins are coming from? You don't suppose it's the same 72 women...do you?"

*Eye of the Tiger ring tone*

*BOOM*

Salam: "Number 4."

Alfaduetto

Alfaduetto

Greeneville, TN
May 2004

FEB 27, 2008 09:50 AM

If we knew where OB was he would be dead. Thats what SEALS do best. At this point he is just a fictional character that is actually an asset to the CIA's job security program. Everything we do to alledgedly stop them gives them more power. Makes me wonder what the word intelligence actually means.

scorp17yh

scorp17yh

Brookings, OR
November 2004

FEB 27, 2008 10:01 AM

Alfaduetto said:
If we knew where OB was he would be dead. Thats what SEALS do best. At this point he is just a fictional character that is actually an asset to the CIA's job security program. Everything we do to alledgedly stop them gives them more power. Makes me wonder what the word intelligence actually means.



Obioulsy Osama's been forgotten,
since the Bin Laden's and the Bush's,
go together like pea's and carrot's.

Osama's whereabouts are known but as you state he is to valuable to Bush and the Neo_Cons alive and free, instead of killed or captured.

Bronk

Bronk

Clearwater, FL
June 2007

FEB 27, 2008 10:05 AM

In response to Alfaduetto's comment above. (I forgot to hit the "Reply" button.)

Um...the CIA was around before OB was born. They've done, are doing, and will continue to do other things besides looking for OB. So, I highly doubt that the CIA is relying on the search for OB to stay in business.

Nessuno

Nessuno

Washington, DC
May 2006

FEB 27, 2008 10:34 AM

Bronk said:
In response to Alfaduetto's comment above. (I forgot to hit the "Reply" button.)

Um...the CIA was around before OB was born. They've done, are doing, and will continue to do other things besides looking for OB. So, I highly doubt that the CIA is relying on the search for OB to stay in business.



Stay in business? No. Legitimize huge costs? Hells yes.

In response to the search for Bin Laden:
A free tiger is more frightening than a caged one.

Adroitbeing

Adroitbeing

I'm lost
September 2003

FEB 27, 2008 11:08 AM

If you are interested in an historical account of what your CIA has been up to since Truman was president, I suggest you read Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA by Tim Weiner. It is a chewy read and requires persistence - independent of the 702-page length, but well worth the effort. Weiner's research is extraordinary whereas CIA performance since it's inception has been anything but.

MinusFourDegrees

MinusFourDegrees

Williamsburg, VA
October 2007

FEB 27, 2008 11:11 AM

Damn...now how am I supposed to drunk-dial Bin Laden and pretend I'm sleeping with one of his concubines?

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

FEB 27, 2008 11:31 AM

Bronk said:
Um...how the hell is the Taliban getting service in caves in the sparse, rocky, mountainous regions of Afghanistan? I want their service provider.



I am glad i wasn't the only one thinking this. When i read the original story, i kept thinking about people in caves using cell phones and getting good service, then being absolutely disgusted that i can't use my cell phone in my basement due to lack of service.


Bronk

Bronk

Clearwater, FL
June 2007

FEB 27, 2008 12:07 PM

Nessuno said:

Bronk said:
In response to Alfaduetto's comment above. (I forgot to hit the "Reply" button.)

Um...the CIA was around before OB was born. They've done, are doing, and will continue to do other things besides looking for OB. So, I highly doubt that the CIA is relying on the search for OB to stay in business.



Stay in business? No. Legitimize huge costs? Hells yes.

In response to the search for Bin Laden:
A free tiger is more frightening than a caged one.



The legitimizing huge costs I agree with, but than that needs to be said about every government operation/department.

martinj_b52

martinj_b52

I'm lost
December 2006

FEB 27, 2008 12:43 PM

Adroitbeing said:
If you are interested in an historical account of what your CIA has been up to since Truman was president, I suggest you read Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA by Tim Weiner. It is a chewy read and requires persistence - independent of the 702-page length, but well worth the effort. Weiner's research is extraordinary whereas CIA performance since it's inception has been anything but.



Wasnt Truman a <ducks> Democrat? Oh, wait. He was also a staunch christian...so its OKAY to criticize THAT Democrat. My bad.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

FEB 27, 2008 12:47 PM

martinj_b52 said:

Adroitbeing said:
If you are interested in an historical account of what your CIA has been up to since Truman was president, I suggest you read Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA by Tim Weiner. It is a chewy read and requires persistence - independent of the 702-page length, but well worth the effort. Weiner's research is extraordinary whereas CIA performance since it's inception has been anything but.



Wasnt Truman a <ducks> Democrat? Oh, wait. He was also a staunch christian...so its OKAY to criticize THAT Democrat. My bad.



How is that a criticism of Truman? He was the president when the CIA was formed (1947), so where else would you start with their history?

Nessuno

Nessuno

Washington, DC
May 2006

FEB 27, 2008 12:56 PM

Bronk said:
The legitimizing huge costs I agree with, but than that needs to be said about every government operation/department.



Than is to denote a measure, size. But even if I switch than to then I still don't get what you mean exactly.

martinj_b52 said:

Adroitbeing said:
If you are interested in an historical account of what your CIA has been up to since Truman was president, I suggest you read Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA by Tim Weiner. It is a chewy read and requires persistence - independent of the 702-page length, but well worth the effort. Weiner's research is extraordinary whereas CIA performance since it's inception has been anything but.



Wasnt Truman a <ducks> Democrat? Oh, wait. He was also a staunch christian...so its OKAY to criticize THAT Democrat. My bad.



Republicans have made mistakes, Democrats have made mistakes. I haven't read Legacy of Ashes yet, though I REALLY want to, but even assuming your argument isn't missing a big piece of the puzzle, that book is a good resource. Does this need to turn into another red vs. blue debate? The Republicans and Democrats of yester year are very different from their neo-con and neo-liberal incarnations today so I don't see how taking this private moment to make a remark against Truman makes any real contribution. All you seem to do is throw a stone from a glass house.

martinj_b52

martinj_b52

I'm lost
December 2006

FEB 27, 2008 12:59 PM

coyotemike said:

martinj_b52 said:

Adroitbeing said:
If you are interested in an historical account of what your CIA has been up to since Truman was president, I suggest you read Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA by Tim Weiner. It is a chewy read and requires persistence - independent of the 702-page length, but well worth the effort. Weiner's research is extraordinary whereas CIA performance since it's inception has been anything but.



Wasnt Truman a <ducks> Democrat? Oh, wait. He was also a staunch christian...so its OKAY to criticize THAT Democrat. My bad.



How is that a criticism of Truman? He was the president when the CIA was formed (1947), so where else would you start with their history?



It didnt readily appear that the mentioning of Truman's name was an innocent annotation. Figuring that, along with the criticism of the CIA (not necessarily friends of mine, nor exactly enemies, either). My gut feeling from this and other posts is, that had Nixon been president during the creation of the CIA, that most of you would be blasting Nixon for the CIA's failings.

Speaking of Nixon... wasnt he in charge when the EPA was created? Can we criticize him for that? biggrin

martinj_b52

martinj_b52

I'm lost
December 2006

FEB 27, 2008 01:15 PM

Nessuno said:

Bronk said:
The legitimizing huge costs I agree with, but than that needs to be said about every government operation/department.



Than is to denote a measure, size. But even if I switch than to then I still don't get what you mean exactly.

martinj_b52 said:

Adroitbeing said:
If you are interested in an historical account of what your CIA has been up to since Truman was president, I suggest you read Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA by Tim Weiner. It is a chewy read and requires persistence - independent of the 702-page length, but well worth the effort. Weiner's research is extraordinary whereas CIA performance since it's inception has been anything but.



Wasnt Truman a <ducks> Democrat? Oh, wait. He was also a staunch christian...so its OKAY to criticize THAT Democrat. My bad.



Republicans have made mistakes, Democrats have made mistakes....



<nearly faints>wow. A criticism of Democrats? (other than Hillary) there almost COULD be SOME common ground here. I dont particularly care for Democrats NOR Republicans... so we MIGHT be able to agree almost half the time? Will wonders never cease.

Seriously. I believe that over half of the criticisms of the current administration are nut-case, over-emotional attacks fueled by news that has been editorialized by the piss-poor examples of journalists that we are now subject to. But I dont agree with everything that has been done, either. Some in favor of the majority opinion here and frequently some against.

Its all ok. In another year we will have an underperforming replacement for what we now have. Why? because it would be difficult to substantiate that ANY of the current crop of candidates are capable of leading the country to accomplish much of ANYTHING that they are promising. With Clinton, most Americans simply think that she is not likable. With Obama, his campaign more closely resembles a religious fervor than an issue-oriented campaign (he may "change" things from what is currently going on-nasty thing about change-it may not be any better, an frequently is worse, than that which it replaces). And McCain....well, if you think HE is going to change things... I have a bridge to sell you.

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