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Hillary Goes Pathetic

TUESDAY FEBRUARY 19 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Obama, Hillary, Rezko, Democrats, Election 08

When candidates get desperate, they often go negative. Some go for the jugular and go dirty, while others apparently attempt to go negative and just end up looking pathetic. Hillary Clinton is running one of the saddest campaigns in recent memory. And by recent memory, I mean Rudy Giuliani.

For the first time in the race, Hillary has found herself on the back end of some serious ass kickings. Obama has rolled off eight, straight primary wins and looks to add to that total tonight, with Wisconsin and Hawaii. Hillary has adopted the Rudy template for failure by basically giving up those states and hoping for big victories in Texas and Ohio in March. At the same time, she is trying to go dirty on Obama and it’s fucking sad – oh, and if successful, it will tear the party apart.

The most distasteful aspect of the Clinton campaign is the “win at all costs” attitude. It’s great in a general election, but in a primary you just end up turning off millions of people you will need to vote for you in November. Examples of Clinton stupidity abound.

Yesterday, the co-chairman of Hillary’s Michigan campaign told Democrats in red states that they are completely useless.


"Superdelegates are not second-class delegates," says Joel Ferguson, who will be a superdelegate if Michigan is seated. "The real second-class delegates are the delegates that are picked in red-state caucuses that are never going to vote Democratic."


“Oh. Thanks. That is very nice of you,” says HALF the country. And for those of you thinking it was just a guy in Michigan slipping up, I give you the man running the Clinton campaign.


“Could we possibly have a nominee who hasn't won any of the significant states -- outside of Illinois?” Chief Strategist Mark Penn said. “That raises some serious questions about Sen. Obama.”


Yes, it does. I mean, what kind of an asshole is popular in red states? What you want is someone who isn’t popular in red states, that way you can be sure to only win in blue states, like Kerry and Gore.

And while were on the subject of superdelegates, know that the Clinton campaign is listening to all the Democratic voters and party members who are concerned the situation could destroy party unity at the convention. The popular wisdom says that whoever wins the popular vote, should receive the majority of superdelagate votes, so voters don’t feel disenfranchised. Of course, the Hillary people could give a shit.


"We don't make distinctions between delegates chosen by million of voters in a primary and those chosen between tens of thousands in caucuses,'' Wolfson said. "And we don't make distinctions when it comes to elected officials'' who vote as superdelegates at the convention.

"We are interested in acquiring delegates, period,'' he added.


Oh, good. Thanks for putting to rest everyone’s fear that the candidate would be chosen by a bunch of party insiders in a smoke filled room and disenfranchise voters, you stupid assholes. What’s that? There is something worse that you can do to tear the party down the middle?


Senior strategist Mark Penn also indicated that the Clinton campaign would press the issue of seating pro-Clinton delegates from Florida and Michigan, where she won unauthorized primaries conducted after the national party barred the states from holding contests before Feb. 5 and after other major candidates agreed not to compete.


Right. The Michigan delegates should totally be counted, because not only was Obama not on the ballot, but also voters were not allowed to write in his name. Oh, and never mind that Hillary agreed that the votes would not count before primary season began. That’s just her word, why would we believe that?

Even Clinton supporters, people working hard on her behalf, are getting pissed off about the tactics.


"You don’t change the rules in the middle of the game. Period,” said former Nebraska Senator Bob Kerrey, when asked if the delegates from the Florida and Michigan primaries should be represented at the Democratic National Convention. “No new vote and no new caucuses, either. Just stick to the rules that they agreed to,” Kerrey said firmly.


She’s never going to listen, Bob. I mean, it's her fucking throne, not Obama's. And she is pulling out all the stops, calling for her friends to start a swiftboat campaign against Obama. Hillary’s people are reaching out to her rich supporters to make their own ads.


Some of Sen. Clinton's top fund-raisers, who have "maxed out" at the individual limit of $2,300 and have tapped out their personal network of donors, are consulting with lawyers about how they can create "independent" groups that can spend unlimited money in support of her campaign.

Susie Tompkins Buell, founder of the Esprit clothing company, was weighing whether to start her own entity for buying ads to promote Clinton or to put money into an existing pro-Clinton organization, like the feminist political organization Emily's List which has already spent about $1 million on Clinton's behalf.


Oh, good, that always ends well. Many of these supporters believe Obama is too big of a pussy for the job and are impressed with Hillary’s fightin’ attitude.


Some Democrats, who have e-mailed me, praise the ruthlessness of the Clinton political machine, arguing that only a readiness to throw sharp elbows can defeat the Republicans this fall. These Democrats hate what they call Barack Obama's "Kumbayah" message of national reconciliation, a reference to the campfire song based on an old African spiritual.


And while you’re at it, why don’t you reach out to some neo-cons for some help, Hillary?


Mr. Mantz held a quick meeting in a hotel lobby in Washington with donors, some of whom are involved in the pro-Israel lobby AIPAC and were in town for other business.


Yes, AIPAC. Just a lovely group of people who did everything they could to make sure the Iraq War happened. Pick a neo-con strategy in the Middle East and you can be sure AIPAC is doing what they can to make it happen. And now, they are giving money to the campaign of Hillary Clinton. Good news.

The heat is also rising on Obama’s dealings with a shady Chicago businessman named Tony Rezko. Hillary has been trying trying to get this scandal on the front page, with little success.


"We still don't have answers about Senator Obama and his dealings with Mr. Rezko," Clinton also said last week.


I have gotten a few emails from Clinton supporters about the Rezko land deal and it’s been popping up on pro-Clinton blogs and message boards. Sadly for them, this scandal appears to be nothing. It was investigated and there was no crime. Yesterday, the people who sold the home to Obama were finally interviewed.


The couple who sold Barack Obama his Chicago home said the Illinois senator's $1.65 million bid "was the best offer'' and they didn't cut their asking price because a campaign donor bought their adjacent land, according to e-mails between Obama's presidential campaign and the seller.


But, I’m sure that’s not the last we’ve heard of that deal. Clinton will keep it alive and well, because having been on the other side of the bullshit Whitewater scandal, she is able to take the low moral ground and try to put a fellow Democrat through the same horseshit. Classy lady.

Another good way to forever alienate the supporters of your Democratic opponent – people you will need to vote for you in November – is to label them a cult. The Clinton machine started in on this two weeks ago.


Democrats fear that the Clintons are putting their personal ambitions ahead of what's good for the Party and the country, that they are ready to dirty up Sen. Obama with attack ads and dismiss his millions of supporters as -- what one key Clinton backer called -- "a cult of personality."


Let's see, how would this work?


You're all in a cult!


No, we're not. We just really like this guy.


I win. Nevermind. Vote for me!


Good luck with that, dipshit.

So, what’s left? How about charging Obama with plagiarism?


Howard Wolfson, the Clinton campaign's communications director, today accused Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) of committing “plagiarism” in a speech in Milwaukee on Saturday night.

On the call, Wolfson said: “Sen. Obama is running on the strength of his rhetoric and the strength of his promises and, as we have seen in the last couple of days, he’s breaking his promises and his rhetoric isn’t his own.”

"When an author plagiarizes from another author there is damage done to two different parties. One is to the person he plagiarized from. The other is to the reader," said Wolfson.





Oooo. But what if the person who was plagiarized says it didn’t happen? Hillary’s campaign was accusing Obama of stealing a speech from Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick. Unfortunately for Clinton, Patrick and Obama are old allies who often share talking points.


Mr. Patrick said that he and Mr. Obama first talked about the attacks from their respective rivals last summer, when Mrs. Clinton was raising questions about Mr. Obama’s experience, and that they discussed them again last week.

Both men had anticipated that Mr. Obama’s rhetorical strength would provide a point of criticism. Mr. Patrick said he told Mr. Obama that he should respond to the criticism, and he shared language from his campaign with Mr. Obama’s speechwriters.

Mr. Patrick said he did not believe Mr. Obama should give him credit.


Huh. Maybe before accusing someone of wrongdoing, you should check with the alleged victim to see whether or not you are going to look like an asshole. Also, check to see whether or not you are a pot calling a kettle black.


I asked Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson and Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass, if they could assure the public that neither Clinton nor McGovern has ever done what Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, did when he used the rhetoric of Gov. Deval Patrick without footnoting him.

They would not.


Oh, probably because Hillary has taken Obama’s campaign slogan and used it in a speech.



Could this woman get any more pathetic? I submit she could not. But, maybe her daughter could.


“Has your mother shown any remorse for the fact that her vote cost Iraqis a million of their lives?” a student asked Chelsea Clinton on Monday at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

Ms. Clinton replied: “She cast a vote based on the best available evidence. Perhaps you had clairvoyance then, and that’s extraordinary.”


Holy fucking shit. Shut your mouth, you stupid asshole. I’m not clairvoyant, but I knew the Iraq War would be a disaster. You know why? Because I know how to read books. They are these things that have lots of ideas and words in them about stuff like tribes, religions and societies. Some people have actually written a few about Iraq. Crazy huh? Oh, and maybe Hillary should have actually read the National Intelligence Estimate about Iraq before voting for the fucking war.


Clinton did not read the 90-page, classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, according to "Her Way: The Hopes and Ambitions of Hillary Rodham Clinton."

For members of Congress to read the report, they had to go to a secure location on Capitol Hill. The Washington Post reported in 2004 that no more than six senators and a handful of House members were logged as reading the document.


Shut your pie hole, Chelsea. If you’re going to be pimped out, don’t embarrass the pimp.

This is pretty simple: The Democrats have about a month to get rid of Hillary Clinton, or they are never going to win in ’08.

 

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Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

FEB 19, 2008 04:50 PM

SergeantPsycho said:
I don't know if this point was made already put at least you're not seeing Republican candidates behave this way. That's one of the reason's i'll be voting for McCain. That and I really hate Hillary. She just pisses me off. Seriously. Like that stupid Christmas commercial where she's wrapping presents, and one of them is Universal Health Care. Thanks for using my money to give me something crappier than what I can buy myself there, Hillary. Ok, I'm done. Sorry.



Uh, before Romney dropped out, the Republican race was way, way nastier than the Democratic race. Like by a mile.

phrogg

phrogg

Greenville, SC
August 2005

FEB 19, 2008 04:51 PM

SergeantPsycho said:
I don't know if this point was made already put at least you're not seeing Republican candidates behave this way. That's one of the reason's i'll be voting for McCain. That and I really hate Hillary. She just pisses me off. Seriously. Like that stupid Christmas commercial where she's wrapping presents, and one of them is Universal Health Care. Thanks for using my money to give me something crappier than what I can buy myself there, Hillary. Ok, I'm done. Sorry.



Question: Are you in favor of the various stated policies - either in continuation of the Bush administration, or his own - that McCain intends to implement?

Mankarlen

Mankarlen

Columbia City, OR
June 2006

FEB 19, 2008 04:56 PM

I did not even read the blog and have to say she has always been pathetic frown But who else we got? puke

billybillybilly

billybillybilly

Minneapolis, MN
March 2004

FEB 19, 2008 04:59 PM

FearTheReaper said:

billybillybilly said:
I don't know, it kind of sounds like Chelsey was caught off-guard by that question. And maybe this is over-simplifying things a bit, but if my dad votes republican, that doesn't make me a republican, so why should I answer for his choices at all, or even be questioned about it?

Either way, I'm Obama all the way. He's cool. Like the Fonz.



What, you think that someone who is campaigning for a presidential candidate, who is the daughter of said candidate, who is reaching out to young voters, wasn't prepared for the "Why did you mom vote that way" question?

One of the most important and often asked questions of the campaign?

Really?




So, you're asking if I'm in favor of redundant answers to questions that we've heard many, many times and are better answered by the person in question anyway? Not particularly.

I'm not exactly saying she didn't see the question coming, to me it just sounded like an answer someone gives when they're sick of answering the same thing over and over. But seriously, that's my opinion. I wasn't there, and I'm not in her head, but I don't think it was something worth getting all bent out of shape about.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

FEB 19, 2008 05:16 PM

You confuse bent out of shape with disbelief.

billybillybilly

billybillybilly

Minneapolis, MN
March 2004

FEB 19, 2008 05:28 PM

That makes sense. You seemed a little overly-emotional is all.

Tone can get weird on the internet.

Dracomicron

Dracomicron

Minneapolis, MN
April 2007

FEB 19, 2008 05:54 PM

I'm starting to think that Clinton has started thinking of herself as a moustache-twirling villain who never read the "101 Rules of a Successful Evil Mastermind." She has proclaimed herself a challenge for Barack Obama, the protagonist, to overcome, to prove himself worthy of facing McCain in November.

Nothing else besides pure solipsism or narcissism makes any sense.

Innocent_Sid

Innocent_Sid

Providence, RI
June 2007

FEB 19, 2008 06:16 PM

How is this news?

Seriously, this is exactly the way things work in politics. When you fall behind you use fear and go negative. I am astounded that people are surprised. Hillary is just another politician.

Dracomicron

Dracomicron

Minneapolis, MN
April 2007

FEB 19, 2008 06:26 PM

It's more interesting when only one side is playing the negative game... and the negative campaigner is losing.

Scopitone

Scopitone

Irvine, CA
OLD SKOOL

FEB 19, 2008 06:42 PM

SergeantPsycho said:
I don't know if this point was made already put at least you're not seeing Republican candidates behave this way. That's one of the reason's i'll be voting for McCain. That and I really hate Hillary. She just pisses me off. Seriously. Like that stupid Christmas commercial where she's wrapping presents, and one of them is Universal Health Care. Thanks for using my money to give me something crappier than what I can buy myself there, Hillary. Ok, I'm done. Sorry.



Your name, your picture, and your comments are all so fucking perfect it's like delicious candy for my prefrontal cortex. Thank you.

Alfaduetto

Alfaduetto

Greeneville, TN
May 2004

FEB 19, 2008 06:48 PM

Hilary has the denial express running wide open across Ohio tonight. Face it folks. Super delegates voting against the popular vote will initiate a don't vote for Hilary sentiment that will make her completely non-viable. Maybe Watts. Maybe I'll be yellin' burn baby burn myself. The O is in, If not ... McCain wins. Vote your will, 'cause I don't wanya cryin' later. I'm with O.

Dracomicron

Dracomicron

Minneapolis, MN
April 2007

FEB 19, 2008 06:59 PM

Clinton seriously underestimated Wisconsinites. The public image is that they're rural hicks, but they have one of the best public university systems in the country and aren't going to fall for negative advertising so easily. She should have studied Feingold's first senate victory, when two better funded Democratic opponents went way negative and Feingold, a distant third placer, shot to the top with simple decency and a willingness to campaign in every county. Obama is running the national scale version of that campaign, and Wisconsinites love that sort of thing.

At this point, Clinton has to look long and hard at herself and figure out if ruining her family's reputation is worth it. Even Chelsea is getting mud on her; if Clinton were anywhere near the protective mom she claimed to be after the Schuster incident, she would get her daughter the hell out of there. For awhile I was thinking that Chelsea should open up for a few interviews to show the more human side of the Clintons, but now I think it's too late.

photoline

photoline

Edmonton, AB
January 2005

FEB 19, 2008 07:37 PM



Dubya discovers too late that intelligent design doesn't lead to intelligent genes.

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

FEB 19, 2008 07:37 PM

Oh god do you realize Obama did an agressive thing by knocking the end of Hillary's speech off of every network by going to speak before she was finished??

This is not the usual protocol and it was calculated to render her less significant. to say the least.

Hmmm.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Reeks of Axelrod.

DannyDMc

DannyDMc

Fargo, ND
July 2003

FEB 19, 2008 07:57 PM

Dracomicron said:
I'm starting to think that Clinton has started thinking of herself as a moustache-twirling villain who never read the "101 Rules of a Successful Evil Mastermind." She has proclaimed herself a challenge for Barack Obama, the protagonist, to overcome, to prove himself worthy of facing McCain in November.

Nothing else besides pure solipsism or narcissism makes any sense.



So, lets look at this in the standard Monomythic system of Joseph Campbell.

Obama has gone onto a journey away from his home to bring back a boon for his people (America). Along the way he is forced to confront significant struggles with those who wish to impede him (Clinton) and (McCain). ALong the way he is helped by a representation of the GOddess (Ophra) and given advice and training by a wise old man (Ted Kennedy) who see something in him. He will eventually defeat his opponents (in elections) before returning to his people with a great boon which will reinvigorate the community (an end to bitter partisan divides? Universal Health Care? A sane foreign policy?)

You know, that really does work pretty well. I call dibs on writing the Saga of Barrack Obama when this is all done and over with! biggrin

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