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Floridohiofornia

First came the 2000 Florida elections that showed our Democracy to be a total sham. Thousands of voters illegally purged from voter rolls, ballots tossed because of tiny, hanging pieces of paper and ballots that confused voters. Then came Ohio in 2004, with voter intimidation, few polling stations and voting machines in black communities and a sham recount that led to the conviction of elections workers. Now, my state, California, has stepped forward as an example of how to destroy a Democracy.

Yesterday, I went to the polls armed, after studying the propositions for an hour and making my decisions. Mrs. FearTheReaper had advised me the wait was long and the workers were morons, so I was prepared for the worst. But, there was no line when I arrived, mostly because the polling place had changed. Then I remembered it had changed in November and I went to the new polling location. As I walked in, I looked at the arrows and balloons and red, white and blue signs informing me I was at a polling location, which was what I was hoping for. Only, it was not my polling location. My location was now further from my house, naturally.

So, I hoofed it a couple more blocks up the street and finally arrived at my polling location, which now crammed three precincts into one small place. Inside were two massive lines and a table with no line. Luckily, the people from my neighborhood don’t care about voting. I believed at the time I was registered as an Independent, but have since learned I am considered a DTS, Decline to State. The young woman behind the desk asked me if I would like to vote Independent or Democratic today. I responded, “Democratic.”

She then handed me a ballot, which had large, red lettering on top that read. “Democratic Party Ticket.” Then a mentally handicapped gentleman asked me my name and had me sign the register. I then stepped into the nearest booth and attempted to vote. But when I slid the ballot in the instruction book, I noticed a group of horrible names, like Mike Huckabee, John McCain and Mitt Romney. I then noticed a sign on the booth, about as high as my balls, which said, “REP.” Ha. I was in a Republican booth. What the fuck? I’m not The Cooler King. I’m a reasonable human being. That is just the height the sign should be, so no one will see it. Three other people made the same mistake while I was there.

So, I went into the “DEM” booth, placed my Democratic ballot into the book and went to work. First up, it said, “Democratic Party,” then directly below was a giant PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Below were the Democratic candidates. I selected Barack Obama and went on to the rest of the ballot.

When I was done, I went up to another mentally handicapped man and gave him the ballot. He put it in the scanner as I watched the screen. The scanner said my ballot was accepted and off I went. Sound good?

It wasn’t. My vote for Obama did not count. Turns out, that to vote on my Democratic Ballot, I actually had to fill in a bubble that confirmed that I wanted to vote on the ballot I had just asked for. You know, just in case I didn’t know what I was doing. Turns out there was also another party listed up top, above “Democratic Party,” the “American Independent Party.” And that party's name was conveniently in smaller, thinner font, so Democratic Party would look like a title. Oh, and it turns out when the girl at the desk asked me if I wanted to vote Independent of Democratic, she was actually referring to the American Independent Party. I actually thought she meant Independent, because, I’m a fucking Independent. No, wait, I’m not. I’m a Decline to State. But the Decline to State booth was actually labeled “Independent.” Sound pretty clear?

When I turned my ballot over to the mentally handicapped guy and he put it through the scanner, it should have read “Error.” But it didn’t. It just didn’t register my vote for president. Just dropped it. As if it didn’t happen. Because after asking for a Democratic ballot and getting one that said, “Democratic Ticket” in bright, red letters, I should have still filled in a bubble to make it a Democratic Ticket, because voting should be filled with redundancy.

This man summed it up nicely on an LA Times message board.


So, despite the fact that I told the pollster that I wanted to vote Democratic, the fact that I was given a Democratic ballot, was shown to a Democratic voting booth, and voted for a Democratic candidate, my vote will not be counted because I did not notice that at the top of the Presidential page I had to AGAIN check that I wanted to vote Democratic.


Did I fuck up? Yep. Should I have been put into a position to fuck up? Fuck no. Perhaps I didn’t do it because it made no sense why it would be necessary, on a Democratic ballot, to note that I’m voting Democratic. I have since talked to several other friends, all college educated, smart people, who made the same mistake. All voted for Obama. And this is where it gets sticky. Independent voters lean heavily toward Obama, so this problem greatly affected his vote count. People have been complaining since late Tuesday to the Secretary of State, the District Attorney, the City Council and any other elected official who will listen. There are 776,000 DTS voters in LA County. Do the math.

LA County is the largest county in the nation. It's larger than nearly two-thirds of the states in the country. There are more than enough votes in this county alone to flip any particular state election.



Sadly, this wasn’t the only problem in California. There were many others. And all just happened to favor Hillary.

Across the state, many voters were dropped off voter rolls. MANY. For no apparent reason. It happened to SG members.


Had to hit up three fucking precincts, as I wasn't on any of the damn ballots despite living at my current location for a couple years.


The exact same thing happened to me this morning, even though I've lived at the same address for 6 years and voted several times here. I finally had to fill out one of those pink provisional ballots. I'm totally afraid my vote won't count.


Those are very common stories on message boards, on blogs, and in conversations all over California today. This vote was a class A clusterfuck.


I wasn't even at the roster at my polling place; despite having registered to vote three months ago. Had to cast a provisional ballot, which I fully expect will not be counted. Ditto with my three roommates. We all wanted Obama.


I live in LA and am a registered Democrat but at my polling place they had me listed as a Non-Partisan and would only give me that ballot, not the democratic one. So now I don't know if my vote will count.


The story was reported in newspapers.


Will Hammond, 35, who lives in the Mission District, said that he went to three polling places and took more than an hour to cast his vote because poll workers at two precincts could not find any record of him.


And caught on film.



One problem directly relates to the other. Here is a voter describing the nightmare scenario she experienced.


Mistake #1) Even though I had changed my party affiliation to Democrat well before the January 22nd deadline my precinct had me on the roster as a "Decline-To-State" voter.

Mistake #2) When I asked for a Democratic Ballot I was given a Non-Partisan Ballot.

Mistake #3) NO ONE MENTIONED MARKING THE DEMOCRATIC BUBBLE.

Mistake #4) I was instructed to vote in the "Independent Party Booth" as opposed to the "Democratic Booth".

Mistake #5) When I went back to complain I was told by a poll worker that "it was only one vote".


Knock ‘em off the voter registration, and then drop their votes off the ballot. Now you know how Hillary Clinton kicked the shit out of Barack Obama here in California. But is that all? Fuck no, it’s not!

In many precincts across the state, polling stations ran out of ballots. In America. During an election. In the year 2008.

Twenty percent of California voters are registered as DTS. That is a lot of people and because this was the first important election we have had in 20 years, we came out to vote and to vote in the Democratic election. Apparently the people running our election were caught off guard. By people voting.


Fourteen precincts in Alameda County ran out of ballots and were kept open as late as 10 p.m. Tuesday night as a result of "unprecedented turnout beyond our wildest dreams," said Guy Ashley, a spokesman for the Alameda County registrar of voters.


In Santa Clara County, voter turnout was brisk Tuesday at the Sunnyvale Elks Lodge, where poll workers by 6 p.m. had run out of ballots in Spanish and English for the Democratic primary, as well as provisional ballots.


Oops. Your bad. No big deal, we’re just picking a president to run our country. Certainly no time to plan for the BEST CASE SCENARIO. Good time to skim and save a few bucks. Definitely don’t want to make sure that everyone registered might actually get the chance to vote.

Some poll workers made quick judgments.


By 7 p.m., Santa Clara County poll workers began using "sample ballots" taken from the primary election pamphlet to provide to the droves of Democratic voters. As a last resort, Regalado pointed to the Sunnyvale polling station's one electronic touch-screen voting machine.

"Once we're done with all the paper, we're using the machine - the one thing they didn't want us to do," he said.


Yeah, you know why they don’t want you to? Because the electronic voting machines were decertified by the Secretary of State. On and on, across the state, voters ran into the same problems.


In Yolo County, a Woodland polling place ran out of ballots, and West Sacramento Mayor Christopher Cabaldon said two polling places in his city ran short as well, sending residents from one place to another in an attempt to cast their vote.


Julie Foster, 33, said she arrived at Woodland Community College at 6:30 p.m. She said poll workers erroneously told her she could not use a sample ballot to cast her vote.

"I probably saw 10 people leave the voting place without voting," she said.


In Contra Costa County, at least 20 precincts ran out of Democratic ballots, said Clerk-Recorder Steve Weir.


On and on.


In Santa Clara County, the trend resulted in a mad rush to photocopy and distribute about 6,000 ballots, while in Alameda County some polls stayed open two hours late.


Some precincts in Santa Clara County used their Chinese- or Tagalog-language ballots - which were printed in part in English - before resorting to the photocopied versions. Some poll workers encouraged voters to use the one touch-screen machine that was allowed in each precinct.


And to put a cherry on top of the royal fuck up, many DTS voters were simply denied Democratic ballots by poll workers.


Some poll workers declined to give Democratic Party ballots to independent voters, believing it was against party rules.


Stephens said she later called county elections officials and complained.

“She told me, 'We've had so many complaints about that today,' ” said Stephens, a human resources manager.


Maybe you guys should have actually told the fucking rules to the poll workers ahead of time. Just a tip.

Thankfully, our media is all over the story.


Few election glitches, except for independents


Right. Or the LA Times could have written the story this way:


Few election glitches, except for 20% of voters.


Or this way:


Few election glitches, except with 776,000 LA voters


The media is ignoring a massive story. It is only being reported in local newspapers and on local stations, as if it is a local story.


Voters in San Diego County also complained about being registered in the wrong party, missing absentee ballots for a group of voters in Tierrasanta, a shortage of Democratic ballots at college campuses, and a lack of privacy. Some poll workers were seen opening ballots and looking at the selections before placing them in secure ballot boxes.


If anyone says Hillary Clinton won California, there is only appropriate response: “We’ll never know.” Why do I say we’ll never know? Because the LA County Acting Registrar of Voters is a wonderful gentleman named Dean Logan.

Those of you living in Washington state will know Dean Logan from the 2004 governor election fiasco between Republican Gov. Elect Dino Rossi and Democrat Christine Gregoire. Logan did a fine job.


The Democratic Party sued Logan and the election division shortly after the election for refusing to release a list of names of people whose ballots were disqualified. The party won that suit and was able to find more votes for Gregoire.

Logan also was named in the Democrats' suit to the state Supreme Court, dismissed this week, where the party alleged he and other auditors chose "expediency over accuracy and equality" in counting votes in the governor's race.


He ran a well-oiled machine in Washington.


Yesterday, the county canvassing board voted to allow signature verification on 573 ballots that officials said had been improperly rejected. The problem was discovered Sunday, when King County Council Chairman Larry Phillips saw his name on the list of disqualified ballots.

On the heels of that embarrassment, county election workers Tuesday found 22 ballots left sitting in counting machines.


And there was no reason to not give Logan the LA job.


Logan does not have a college degree, has only had two summer programs worth of training to be a registrar of voters and before coming to LA County had only 3 years of experience as a registrar / county clerk. He does not appear to be qualified for the job of Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder.


The man knows what he is doing.


In the 2004 primary and presidential elections Logan used uncertified software to count absentee ballots and stopped the use of proper and long used record-keeping practices for the absentee ballots and envelopes, thus, the officials did not count all the ballots and did not reconcile the total ballots received with the ones counted and rejected.


Logan is honest.


Bev Harris questioned Logan on TV about the 3 hours of deleted audit log of the main tabulator from election night in 2004. He denied that the data was deleted but claimed that no activity occurred during that time. Harris responded that she had 5 update-reports from about every half hour, signed by him in ink, during the time when the audit log had no data and he said there was no activity.


On TV Logan claimed that no modems were connected to tabulator on election night, yet Bev Harris saw 24 hookups to a location where modem data was received. Harris also showed the trouble and transmission reports from poll workers who had trouble sending their data via modem.


He is trustworthy.


Logan fired Nicole Way, the long time absentee ballot supervisor for repeatedly telling him that the numbers coming from the new counting software were not right. He forced her to sign the reports about the absentee ballots against her will and then used her as a scapegoat for the problems of the handling of these ballots discovered in two reviews. She won a mediation hearing and was reinstated.


And dude clearly knows how to run an office.


In two separate reviews of the 2004 election and Logan’s performance as Registrar, employees described the department existing a constant state of crisis, that Logan had poor managerial skills, that morale was low because he hired inappropriate and unqualified staff.


Welcome to California, formerly Ohio, formerly Florida. Don’t let anyone tell you Clinton won California.

 

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Syntropia

Syntropia

Oakland, CA
February 2004

FEB 07, 2008 06:15 AM

Shennanigans! ARRR!!!

AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

FEB 07, 2008 06:43 AM

So silly.

Oregon votes by mail. We get a pamphlet weeks before the election deadline explaining exactly what all of the candidates and ballot measures are with arguments for and against each measure. You can go through it at your leisure and make an informed decision, then go over and mark off your choices in your ballot and either mail it off or drop it off at the election office.

That's it. No waiting in lines, no polls, no checking to see if you're on some list. And I get these pamphlets all the time, whenever there's a measure up for a vote. Sometimes I'll be checking my mail and be like, "oh, we're voting on something" and look it over, fill it out, and send it back. So simple, why doesn't everyone else do this?

I'm self-employed and work from home so I can actually afford to spend my Tuesday out in the cold waiting in line, but who the hell wants to?

scorp17yh

scorp17yh

Brookings, OR
November 2004

FEB 07, 2008 06:59 AM

AceT said:
So silly.

Oregon votes by mail. We get a pamphlet weeks before the election deadline explaining exactly what all of the candidates and ballot measures are with arguments for and against each measure. You can go through it at your leisure and make an informed decision, then go over and mark off your choices in your ballot and either mail it off or drop it off at the election office.

That's it. No waiting in lines, no polls, no checking to see if you're on some list. And I get these pamphlets all the time, whenever there's a measure up for a vote. Sometimes I'll be checking my mail and be like, "oh, we're voting on something" and look it over, fill it out, and send it back. So simple, why doesn't everyone else do this?

I'm self-employed and work from home so I can actually afford to spend my Tuesday out in the cold waiting in line, but who the hell wants to?



I have yet to find a problem with the Oregon way and can see only positives. I love it.
Perhaps someone on the boards could point to a negative to "our" way of voting and why it should't be done nationally

Nessuno

Nessuno

Washington, DC
May 2006

FEB 07, 2008 07:01 AM

Holy shit.

Let me guess, no one is getting prosecuted for this? Where is the national press?

shapeshifter23

shapeshifter23

San Francisco, CA
September 2005

FEB 07, 2008 07:01 AM

NO ONE MENTIONED MARKING THE DEMOCRATIC BUBBLE.



I fucked up and did the same thing you did. Boy am I dumb. After going through the trouble of re-registering from Green Party affiliation to DTS so I could vote in the Dem. primary, I went and threw away my vote anyway. I might as well have voted for Mike Gravel. Snookered again.

AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

FEB 07, 2008 07:11 AM

U.S. voter turnout in 2004: 56.7%

Oregon voter turnout in 2004: 86.5%

Since Oregon has moved to voting by mail, voter turnout in Oregon has been among the highest in the nation. Additionally, the change to vote by mail has saved Oregon taxpayers 30% in election-related overhead costs.


AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

FEB 07, 2008 07:17 AM

scorp17yh said:

AceT said:
So silly.

Oregon votes by mail. We get a pamphlet weeks before the election deadline explaining exactly what all of the candidates and ballot measures are with arguments for and against each measure. You can go through it at your leisure and make an informed decision, then go over and mark off your choices in your ballot and either mail it off or drop it off at the election office.

That's it. No waiting in lines, no polls, no checking to see if you're on some list. And I get these pamphlets all the time, whenever there's a measure up for a vote. Sometimes I'll be checking my mail and be like, "oh, we're voting on something" and look it over, fill it out, and send it back. So simple, why doesn't everyone else do this?

I'm self-employed and work from home so I can actually afford to spend my Tuesday out in the cold waiting in line, but who the hell wants to?



I have yet to find a problem with the Oregon way and can see only positives. I love it. Perhaps someone on the boards could point to a negative to "our" way of voting and why it should't be done nationally


From Wikipedia:

Vote-by-mail has created some controversy. Some people oppose changing the tradition of going to a polling place to vote, arguing that requiring voters to go to polling places provides greater community, ensured secrecy, and importance to the voting process, while avoiding early voting.

Others disagree with this argument, arguing that voting at home provides equal or greater privacy than designated polling places, and do not agree that there is a reduced sense of community or importance in voting associated with vote-by-mail.

Concerns have been raised about the possibility of election fraud in vote-by-mail elections, varying from risks of multiple voting to the destruction of mailed ballots, but actual incidents are rare in practice and not known to be more likely than elsewhere.

Postal voting might increase the pressure of a dominant spouse to make their partner "vote right". However, many voters appreciate the additional time to study candidates and ballot measures and to discuss their options with family and friends.

Alz

Alz

Lincoln, NE
February 2007

FEB 07, 2008 07:53 AM

Interesting. A quick google of varying keywords doesn't bring up much. Now, I don't have tv or anything so maybe it's all over the news channels and I don't know it - but for some reason, I doubt it.

Although I did find this little gem from an NPR news blog:

It turns out that nine percent of the ballots cast in L.A. County showed no vote for president.



If that's true.. nine freaking percent. NINE percent. That means only 91% of votes were counted, which is unacceptable. The blog writer also points out that even if all the lost votes were for Obama (which is unlikely) he'd win by only about 2,000 votes. However, I know that I was personally pretty surprised that the race wasn't closer than it was. Now I have a pretty good idea why.

Miles_L

Miles_L

Seattle, WA
February 2004

FEB 07, 2008 08:37 AM

AceT said:
So silly.

Oregon votes by mail. We get a pamphlet weeks before the election deadline explaining exactly what all of the candidates and ballot measures are with arguments for and against each measure.




Washington State is the same way. I have been voting by mail for a longer period, since I was in the Army. For the most part our ballots are fairly well marked and not too difficult.

Though a friend just pointed out to me yesterday this interesting fact for WA States Feb 19 primary.

Page 6 State of Washington Voter's Pamphlet (mailed to all registered voters and available at Libraries and Post Offices)

"The state Republican Party will use the Presidential Primary to allocate 51 percent of its delegates to the 2008 Republican National Convention. The remaining 49 percent of the delegates will be allocated based on caucus results. The state Democratic Party has decided to use caucus results to allocate its delegates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention."

What this means is that your vote in the WA State Primary means half if you are republican and ZILCH (0) if you are Democrat. Though announced to the public this is not widely known. I would not have known about it if a friend of mine hadn't called me up and urged me to go to the caucus.

The caucus for both the Republicans and Democrats will be held this weekend Feb 9, 2008 at 1 pm.

Go here to find the Democratic location:
http://www.wa-democrats.org/caucusfinder

Go here to find a phone number to call for the secret Republican location:
http://www.wsrp.org/calendar/Detail.aspx?EventID=8679

So as bad as the voter count may be in your area, at least the Democrats didn't hide the fact that unless you showed up 2 weeks ahead of time, you're vote counted for nothing.


CoyoteMike

CoyoteMike

Iowa City, IA
May 2006

FEB 07, 2008 09:32 AM

Wonder if the same thing happened for those few independents who tried to vote in the republican crapathon.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

FEB 07, 2008 09:38 AM

First, FTR you need to send in a Voter Complaint Form to the Secretary of State (Debra Bowen) telling her how she and others like her fucked up the election with a crappy disenfranchised system. Get everyone you've talked to fill out the same form and tell them to ask anyone they know who's had similar problems to do the same. Second, contact the Democratic party and let them know how you feel about how they've allowed something this fucked up to occur. Finally, if you're still steamed, march on the DNC in August to protest Hillary's ill gotten gains. I don't know why our state uses different methods of voting around the state. I had a simple paper ballot, all I had to do was draw a line across an arrow pointing to the Candidate of my choice. It couldn't possibly have been any easier, I didn't even have to wait to vote... Again, I'm not sure why my experience was so different then others (maybe because I'm registered as a Democrat?), but I'm a bit miffed to hear that others' votes did not count, especially when it comes to the same Candidate I voted for. frown

ericwine

ericwine

Charlotte Hall, MD
January 2007

FEB 07, 2008 09:48 AM

coyotemike said:
Wonder if the same thing happened for those few independents who tried to vote in the republican crapathon.



The Republican primary in CA was closed - i.e. no independents. So no bubble bullshit.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

FEB 07, 2008 09:54 AM

TL;DR

Seriously. I got about halfway through before I realized it was just a list of examples.

Writing 101, man. Beginnning, middle and end.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

FEB 07, 2008 09:54 AM

AceT said:
So silly.

Oregon votes by mail. We get a pamphlet weeks before the election deadline explaining exactly what all of the candidates and ballot measures are with arguments for and against each measure. You can go through it at your leisure and make an informed decision, then go over and mark off your choices in your ballot and either mail it off or drop it off at the election office.

That's it. No waiting in lines, no polls, no checking to see if you're on some list. And I get these pamphlets all the time, whenever there's a measure up for a vote. Sometimes I'll be checking my mail and be like, "oh, we're voting on something" and look it over, fill it out, and send it back. So simple, why doesn't everyone else do this?

I'm self-employed and work from home so I can actually afford to spend my Tuesday out in the cold waiting in line, but who the hell wants to?


That doesn't help if they can't even be bothered to get you on the voter registration rolls. I registered over a month before the primary with a "vote by mail" option marked, so I should have gotten a similar deal as the Oregon thing, but I got nothing, and had to vote by provisional ballot at a polling place that had no record of me.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

FEB 07, 2008 09:58 AM

Cigarette said:
TL;DR

Seriously. I got about halfway through before I realized it was just a list of examples.

Writing 101, man. Beginnning, middle and end.



What the crap are you talking about? There were different issues going on, and the story was about the myriad problems in this primary. The examples were examples of all of those different problems and the fuck-ups on all levels of this primary. It would be incomplete without exploring all aspects of the problems. If you can't be bothered to read it because you don't think it affects you, that's fine, but that's not FTR's fault.

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