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Last week the Republicans held two debates. To say it was like watching aliens would be an understatement. This could be the most idiotic group of men ever to run for the White House. Their understanding of the world is childlike and their solutions even more so. When one of these men is elected (steals) to the presidency, we are completely fucked as a nation. I do not see how we could possibly survive another four years of this ignorant bullshit.

They have no intention of moving away from the great policies of George Bush, because obviously he has done such an awesome job. It is completely baffling that five adults can sit on stage during a debate, in the year 2008, and argue over who backs the president more. Now, I expect stupidity from these fucking morons and I am rarely disturbed by their caveman grunts and screams, but when the topic turned to terrorism and they ganged up on poor Ron Paul, I kind of lost it.

Don’t get me wrong; I think Ron Paul is an idiot. Besides his views of foreign policy, he may be the most moronic of them all. Yet, he is very intelligent and thoughtful when it comes to foreign policy.

Ron Paul made the mistake of pointing out that we should take responsibility for our policies that led to 9/11. Seems like a position that any mature, reasoned man would take. If someone attacks me, there is usually a reason. Strange people just don’t walk up to me on the street and punch me in the face. That is just not how life works.

Here is Paul’s statement that set off the idiots:


They don’t attack us because we are free and prosperous…We invade their countries, we occupy their countries, we have bases in their country…not since just 9/11, but we have done that for a long time…it was our…if we don’t understand that we can’t win this war against terrorism.


Oh, how dare you speak the obvious! This is a Republican debate, thinker! A good-looking retard named Mitt was the first to respond.


Unfortunately Ron, you need a thorough understanding of what radical Jihad is, what the movement is, what it’s intent is, where it flows from and the fact that it is trying to bring down, not just us, but it is trying to bring down all moderate, Islamic governments, Western governments around the world.


All? I have missed the attacks on Iceland? Also, Switzerland, Finland, blah, blah, you get the point. It’s a hollow and bullshit argument. The countries that have been attacked have mostly been those whom helped us with Iraq and Afghanistan. What the terrorists are trying to do is bring down governments that are not moderate, like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Egypt. You know, the dictatorships that the US props up. Anyone who is using just 1% of his or her brain should know this.

Mitt then goes into a rant in which he says we should thank George Bush for keeping us safe. Just ignore the horrible attacks on our allies, Spain and England, as well as the many Australians targeted and killed in Bali.

That’s when old, lazy Fred Thompson jumps in and brags about his experience and nearly fingers himself because of it. All his experience has apparently taught him that crazy Muslims are bad. Whodda thunk?

Thank God Rudy was there to set everyone straight.


Ron’s analysis is seriously flawed. The idea that the attack took place because of American foreign policy is precisely the reason I handed back a $10 million dollar check to a Saudi prince, who gave me that money at ground zero for the Twin Towers Fund and then put out a press release saying America should change its foreign policy.


Wow, you gave back $10 million dollars because somebody said we should change our foreign policy, and actually have the nerve to brag about your moronic, heinous decision? For those of you who don’t know what the Twin Towers Fund is:


The Twin Towers Fund is providing assistance and support to grieving family members of those personnel from the New York City Fire Department and its Emergency Medical Services Command, the New York City Police Department, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the New York State Office of Court Administration and other government offices.


Only a great, educated, selfless man would turn down $10 million dollars for families of dead rescue workers because the donator said the US should take a look at its foreign policy. He rejected money for grieving families because of a TRUTHFUL comment. Rudy Giuliani is a viper. Thank God he wasn't done.


It is an existential threat. It has nothing to do with our policy…our foreign policy is irrelevant, totally irrelevant.


That is pretty much the psychotic view of things, yes. He a stain on face of the Earth and someone needs to get a sponge.

It is over? No fucking way. Ron Paul then attempts to explain to the idiots why foreigners, who suffer at the hands of our foreign policy, are upset because we attempt to force our beliefs on them. Romney calmly lets us know why he is retarded again.


Ron, you’re reading their propaganda.

(Giuliani cackles)


Rudy cackles! Because it’s fun! It is fun how crazy Ron Paul is being with his well thought out criticisms of our foreign policy and his belief that there is usually a cause for violent attacks. Calling the truth propaganda is pretty much all we can expect from “Republicans” these days. Romney then makes a statement that causes me to shit on myself.


It has nothing to do with us, when they kill Madam Bhutto.


Are you fucking kidding me? You want to be our president, you hideous, retarded fuck? You have just made a statement about an assassination, as if it was fact, for which there is no proof. No evidence exists to back up this claim. None. You are a liar and a deviant and very, very dangerous. Also, you are retarded.

Then Fred Thompson jumps back in with some really important questions:


Fred: Whom did we invade before 9/11?

Paul: We were occupying.

Fred: (mocking) Occupying.

Paul: We have air bases in Saudi Arabia.

Fred: (mocking) Air bases.


Jesus. Fucking. Christ. WE DO HAVE AIR BASES. Here is a grown man, running for president of the United States, mocking the truth. MOCKING. The US bases in Saudi Arabia have been the number one recruiting tool for al Qaeda, or at least they were until the war in Iraq. Maybe dipshit should have learned that when he was getting all that “experience” as a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee. It’s okay to read, even if you are an actor.

Are we done yet? Sadly, no. Huckabee then breaks down the problem in a way his Christian minions will understand: Islamofascism. Which, is, uh, something that does not exist. It is not real. There are no Islamofascists. There are radical Muslims and there are fascists, but there is no such thing as an Islamofascist. Huckabee is a retarded moron.


There is nothing about our attacking them that prompts this. They are prompted by the fact that they believe that they must establish a worldwide caliphate that has nothing to do with us, other than the fact that we live and breath and their intention is to destroy us.


Well, thanks for that, Innocent the Third. You don’t mind if I call you a fucking tool, right? This is an embarrassing position for any man running for president of the United States to take. It is so completely void of thought and reason that it is shocking.

Last week’s debate was disturbing to watch. It is amazing to witness five men speaking to one man like he is a fool, when he is actually correct. And I don’t for a minute believe that any of these clowns actually believe they are speaking the truth. They cannot. Because any man who has achieved the amount of power they have is not a moron. They are only taking this position because they have polled the base and they are catering to their ignorant beliefs, instead of explaining the truth. That is the opposite of a leader. These men are cowards.

Enjoy their brains.



We should greatly fear the day one of these assholes takes over the White House.

 

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Benzino

Benzino

Winnipeg, MB
November 2006

JAN 10, 2008 08:00 AM

I feel sorry that Americans have to chose between these tools. Romeny is a fucktard, Guiliani is an asshole who is basing his political career on the corpses of Americans and Huckabee is a religious nut. They are just spewing the same bullshit. Ron Paul is right about America's foreign policy. The others are just chest pumping never criticize America neanderthals.

JasXD

JasXD

Tallmadge, OH
November 2007

JAN 10, 2008 08:25 AM

Keep selling fear, let the voters buy into it. That's all they have to do. And when they get elected, they'll give government kickbacks, tax exemptions and other shady deals with contractors and other companies to "keep us safe." They'll post record profits, massive gains, and our poor, overworked, stressed-out president will mysteriously make a fortune, along with all the cronies in Congress that backed him.

I had a guy tell me today he was ready for a female president, so he's voting for Hillary. I'm practicing my German again in case she or any of the neo-cons win. Maybe a change of scenery for Jas in 2009!

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

JAN 10, 2008 09:10 AM

So . . . what does it take to get Swiss citizenship?

Seriously, this shit is scary. And what is scarier is that I hear people around here mouthing the same bullshit as the canidates. Granted, I'm in the dead center of Nebraska, where Rush Limbaugh can be heard from peoples' radios when I walk down the street and the average reading level hovers somewhere around 5th grade. But to think that our foreign policy has nothing to do with the growth of al Qaeda is simply idiotic. We've been sticking our noses into the area since at least WWII, if not earlier. The West as a whole has been fucking up the area for well over 2000 years (Macedonia, Rome, etc). There is a very good chance that these people are sick of being fucked over, thought of as primative, and being told they don't know how to run their own religion, government, or lives. Yes, they haven't developed as quickly as Europe. But it is kind of hard to develop while being beaten, raped, and stolen from every generation or so.

Jackie_Treehorn

Jackie_Treehorn

Seattle, WA
June 2004

JAN 10, 2008 09:16 AM

Thank you FTR.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC
August 2004

JAN 10, 2008 09:21 AM

i can't believe i'm saying this, but i agree with ron paul.

fuuuuuuck

shapeshifter23

shapeshifter23

San Francisco, CA
September 2005

JAN 10, 2008 09:38 AM

When one of these men is elected (steals) to the presidency, we are completely fucked as a nation.



Uhh, sorry to have to break the news to you, but the second half of your sentence stands as naked truth, regardless of whether any of these guys gets to be President or it's Hillary or Obama or whoever else is in the running at this point.

The good news is that once the United States has been reduced from global superpower status to the level of a a third world nation, the rest of the planet can heave a great big sigh of relief.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

JAN 10, 2008 09:41 AM

shapeshifter23 said:

When one of these men is elected (steals) to the presidency, we are completely fucked as a nation.



Uhh, sorry to have to break the news to you, but the second half of your sentence stands as naked truth, regardless of whether any of these guys gets to be President or it's Hillary or Obama or whoever else is in the running at this point.

The good news is that once the United States has been reduced from global superpower status to the level of a a third world nation, the rest of the planet can heave a great big sigh of relief.



Everytime I read something like this, I picture myself wearing leather pants and carrying a shotgun, and it makes me very sad. I look terrible in leather pants.

Postblank

Postblank

New Brunswick, NJ
June 2004

JAN 10, 2008 09:49 AM

Ron Paul finally said something that made logical sense and he got lambasted for it. This is almost as bad as people laughing at Kucinich for saying he saw an unidentified flying object.

_Margot_

_Margot_

Santa Monica, CA
December 2007

JAN 10, 2008 09:54 AM

MrCrisp said:
i can't believe i'm saying this, but i agree with ron paul.

fuuuuuuck



I thought the same thing mad

defaultx

defaultx

I'm lost
February 2006

JAN 10, 2008 09:59 AM

If Obama gets elected and trys to rock the boat he will end up like the kennedys. frown



I support ron paul but he dosnt have a chance , maybe as a spoiler but i dont think thats his style.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

JAN 10, 2008 09:59 AM

_Margot_ said:

MrCrisp said:
i can't believe i'm saying this, but i agree with ron paul.

fuuuuuuck



I thought the same thing mad



Don't panic. Just remember the old saying (and yes, I used it on another thread): Even a broken clock is right twice per day.

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

JAN 10, 2008 10:02 AM

MrCrisp said:
i can't believe i'm saying this, but i agree with ron paul.

fuuuuuuck



Likewise. blackeyed

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

JAN 10, 2008 10:10 AM

It comes as no surprise to me that many of us agree with something Ron Paul said. Certain of his ideas (like removing our troops from the middle east) are good ideas. The problem is that his reasoning for that idea and the further extension of that idea based on his reasoning is horribly flawed.

He doesn't just want our troops out of the middle east, he wants them out of everywhere. He just happens to focus on the troops in Iraq because that's the one people agree with the most, and it's easy to stay consistent and come across as being unequivocal about the question of bringing troops home from Iraq when your position is that we shouldn't have troops on foreign soil at all.

s5

s5

STAFF

San Francisco, CA

JAN 10, 2008 10:11 AM

FearTheReaper said:
Don't get me wrong; I think Ron Paul is an idiot. Besides his views of foreign policy, he may be the most moronic of them all. Yet, he is very intelligent and thoughtful when it comes to foreign policy.



Ron Paul is also an idiot on foreign policy, which is comprised of topics other than 9/11 and the Iraq war. His fantasy-land isolationist views just happened to lead him to the correct conclusion on Iraq, like a broken clock that's right twice each day. Any politician who believes the world would be a more peaceful and prosperous place if only we didn't have those pesky international institutions is truly not grasping the world we live in today.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

JAN 10, 2008 10:16 AM

Yeah, the rationality of Ron Paul's foreign policy stance gets an enormous boost when it's presented in soundbite form in the midst of the warmongering yokelism that is a GOP debate.

Also, there's no way on Earth that the United States wouldn't have set up military bases in Saudi Arabia after Iraq invaded Kuwait.

Why?

Because the Saudi monarchy asked us to. And when I say "asked" I mean "used their massive economic leverage to call in a big favor from their pal George H.W. Bush because they were scared shitless of Iraq's much larger army pouring across the border".

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