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Ron Paul: Just Another Religious Lunatic



Ah, yes, I just called the golden boy a religious lunatic. That is the term I apply to people in this day and age who do not believe in evolution and are against abortion. I can actually understand how someone can be against abortion and I don’t label those people lunatics but when it comes to not believing in evolution, you’re a nutter.



Well, there he was in all his glory, proudly declaring that he does not believe in the theory of evolution. But ignore all that because he wants to stop the Iraq War and bring out troops home. He wants to kill the IRS and let you roll around in your money. That sounds exciting, doesn’t it? Oh, and let’s not forget about the evil Federal Reserve. He’s going to do away with that all by himself, without the aid of Congress. Good luck.

Focus on all of those things. Do not pay attention to the fact that he DOES NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION. Or what he considers to be the greatest
moral issue of our time.


As an obstetrician who has delivered over 4000 children, I have long been concerned with the rights of unborn people. I believe this is the greatest moral issue of our time.


Strange, I don’t hear his cult yammering on about his abortion stance. Maybe they are so awed by his brilliance that they are ashamed to talk about it, so I will do so for them.

Ron Paul actually has the courage to compare the horrors of Nazis with abortion.


Unlike Nazi Germany, which forcibly sent millions to the gas chambers (as well as forcing abortion and sterilization upon many more), the new regime has enlisted the assistance of millions of people to act as its agents in carrying out a program of mass murder.


This might be the point where you liberals who support Paul should stand up and explain your asinine decision. The one thing anti-abortion activists all have in common is their sneaky attempts to undermine Roe vs. Wade. Whether using drunk driving cases in which a fetus was killed, or attempting to pass “Human Life Amendments” at the state level, or trying to pass laws that allow pharmacists to decline giving out the morning after pill, they rarely come at the issue head on. Ron Paul is no exception.


Pro-life libertarians have a vital task to perform: to persuade the many abortion-supporting libertarians of the contradiction between abortion and individual liberty; and, to sever the mistaken connection in many minds between individual freedom and the "right" to extinguish individual life.


Uh huh. And Ron Paul uses his “state rights” bullshit to push his religious lunacy on the public. What he is and all he has ever been is another religious fanatic who is attempting to force us to live his way of life. A man doesn’t write two books on stopping abortion if it is not one of the driving forces of his life. Check out 1983's Abortion and Liberty and 1990's Challenge to Liberty: Coming to Grips with the Abortion Issue.

As of late, he has tempered his rhetoric a bit because he doesn’t want to drive away his college minions. But earlier this year, Paul was spewing his anti-abortion glory.


This is a practical, direct approach to ending Federal court tyranny, which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn.


Well, if someone read me that sentence and asked who wrote it I would have said Huckabee or Pat Robertson. But it is none other the next hero of our country, Ron Paul.

Quite a few liberals are getting swept up in this lunatic’s anti-war talk without knowing much of his religious politics. But his stance against the Iraq War is not liberal, it is classic conservatism in the form of old fashioned isolationism. He just stands out because the Republicans have murdered classic conservatives. When it comes to the abortion issue, the only difference between Paul and his fellow religious nuts like Huckabee is the path to banning abortion. Huckabee wants a federal law making abortion illegal, Paul wants to do it one community at a time. Either way, he’s a nutter who believes that human beings are created at conception and doesn’t believe in that crazy theory of evolution.

 

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Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

DEC 31, 2007 11:55 AM

JDPatriot said:
What about the lies spewed by Hilary Clinton and Obama? What about THEIR support of the War on Terror and our Involvement in Iraq? What about the fact that the Democratic economic policies favor further entrenching corporations with subsidies and other forms of corporate welfare while crushing small businesses?



Wait, since when do Libertarians and/or Ron Paul supporters think corporations are a bad thing? What happened to the free market?

Speaking of which, do you really think the Libertarian / Ron Paul concept that by removing most if not all federal restrictions on businesses (including corporations) and allowing the "free market" to handle issues like pollution and workplace safety will somehow un-entrench these evil corporations?

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

DEC 31, 2007 11:55 AM



my prediction: subterranean ocean, giant mushrooms, prehistoric beasts, and 12 ft tall protohumans.

CoyoteMike

CoyoteMike

Iowa City, IA
May 2006

DEC 31, 2007 12:01 PM

JDPatriot said:
It's amazing to me how much Ron Paul has managed to piss people off.

The same people who call Bush a fascist but believe Chavez, the Venezuelan dictator to be some sort of hero.

Maybe I support Ron Paul, maybe not, but the polarity of this is ridiculous. Someone isn't different from you any more, because accepting difference is politically correct. Instead, they are evil so it's okay to tear into them more then other candidates.

It's the same thing every week: Pick a republican / libertarian candidate, say they are pro-life and anti-evolution, and then paint them as evil.

What about the lies spewed by Hilary Clinton and Obama? What about THEIR support of the War on Terror and our Involvement in Iraq? What about the fact that the Democratic economic policies favor further entrenching corporations with subsidies and other forms of corporate welfare while crushing small businesses?

Once you start mentioning that, and showing how both Dems and Reps are idiots I will start to think your opinions are more then adolescent ravings. Until then, stop whining and crying about Ron Paul or whatever your weekly cause is.



Rush Limbaugh does plenty of that for your side. In between pain-pills.

CoyoteMike

CoyoteMike

Iowa City, IA
May 2006

DEC 31, 2007 12:02 PM

scylis said:



my prediction: subterranean ocean, giant mushrooms, prehistoric beasts, and 12 ft tall protohumans.



Dude, you weren't at my family reunion . . . how did you know about the mushrooms?

Ms_Magdalena

Ms_Magdalena

Minneapolis, MN
February 2007

DEC 31, 2007 12:02 PM

Chopped_Liver said:



I was thinking more along the Time Share route,.....interested?



To get away from all the Paultards? I'm down.

Hunkpapa

Hunkpapa

United Kingdom
June 2004

DEC 31, 2007 12:03 PM



can the hollow earth people please get together with the flat earth people and come up with some kind of grand unified theory for people who think the earth isn't a sphere? i can't keep up.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

DEC 31, 2007 12:03 PM

briansocal said:
Sources on any such thing ever happening? Come on cognitive.



You mean state governments outlawing consensual homosexual sex in private?

Uh, how about the Supreme Fucking Court as a source?

Sourcey enough for you?

briansocal said:
Again, your girl Hillary has a lock on the campaign anyway, right? Why waste with the 20 different anti-Ron Paul articles?



Funny that you assume I'm a Hillary Clinton supporter.

Oh, and the reasons for the numerous Ron Paul articles?

1) He's chock to the brim with batshit insane ideas that would both cripple the U.S. economy and radically restrict the civil rights of a whole bunch of people by expanding the power of state governments.

2) A sizable chunk of Paul supporters ignore the living shit out of those ideas, simply because Ron Paul wants to stop the war, man. You know, like Patrick Buchanan!

3) Those same supporters lionize Ron Paul as Jesus' More Morally Correct Older Brother and come up with hilarious ways of supporting him, like making Ron Paul dollars, renting a Ron Paul blimp, or creating an all-gnome Ron Paulista World Of Warcraft guild, or spamming online polls and then using them as "proof" that Ron Paul has some massive support out there that the mainstream media is ignoring. Yeah, the same mainstream media that's given Ron Paul a huge amount of coverage compared to other candidates with a comparable amount of support in polls of actual human beings, not spambots.

4) Those supporters have no fucking sense of humor, or proportion, and react to any mockery of St. Pauli Girl with a shrieking tantrum, which is fucking hilarious.

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 31, 2007 12:04 PM

briansocal said:
Sources on any such thing ever happening? Come on cognitive.



Clarify to what you're responding.

Again, your girl Hillary has a lock on the campaign anyway, right?



A nominal perusal of current polls suggests "no". The last time I checked, of course, Paul wasn't running on the Democratic ticket, so bringing Democratic candidates up out of context to the original topic is anecdotal at best.

Why waste with the 20 different anti-Ron Paul articles? He will never win, you keep saying that. Then a day later 2 new Ron Paul articles to spread the "truth" about him.



I wonder how many times I can say "If you don't like what you're reading here, then submit your own articles and overwhelm the opposition through your own ability to create something that the readership here will want to read" before someone who hates what he reads here but somehow lacks the capability to not read it will do so?

Truth, I looked into the links, and they were not the smoking gun fearthereaper claims.



Which is interesting, because up until this point you didn't even acknowledge the topic at hand.

Cult members, very typical. The anti crowd appears to be the cult here.



Yeah, SG board posters totally satisfy the common definitions of a cult. Way to nail that one.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

DEC 31, 2007 12:04 PM

JDPatriot said:
Once you start mentioning that, and showing how both Dems and Reps are idiots I will start to think your opinions are more then adolescent ravings. Until then, stop whining and crying about Ron Paul or whatever your weekly cause is.


You don't read too many FTR stories, do you?

-TM

Ms_Magdalena

Ms_Magdalena

Minneapolis, MN
February 2007

DEC 31, 2007 12:06 PM

Uncognitive said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

briansocal said:
Sources on any such thing ever happening? Come on cognitive.



You mean state governments outlawing consensual homosexual sex in private?

Uh, how about the Supreme Fucking Court as a source?

Sourcey enough for you?

briansocal said:
Again, your girl Hillary has a lock on the campaign anyway, right? Why waste with the 20 different anti-Ron Paul articles?



Funny that you assume I'm a Hillary Clinton supporter.

Oh, and the reasons for the numerous Ron Paul articles?

1) He's chock to the brim with batshit insane ideas that would both cripple the U.S. economy and radically restrict the civil rights of a whole bunch of people by expanding the power of state governments.

2) A sizable chunk of Paul supporters ignore the living shit out of those ideas, simply because Ron Paul wants to stop the war, man. You know, like Patrick Buchanan!

3) Those same supporters lionize Ron Paul as Jesus' More Morally Correct Older Brother and come up with hilarious ways of supporting him, like making Ron Paul dollars, renting a Ron Paul blimp, or creating an all-gnome Ron Paulista World Of Warcraft guild, or spamming online polls and then using them as "proof" that Ron Paul has some massive support out there that the mainstream media is ignoring. Yeah, the same mainstream media that's given Ron Paul a huge amount of coverage compared to other candidates with a comparable amount of support in the polls.

4) Those supporters have no fucking sense of humor, or proportion, and react to any mockery of St. Pauli Girl with a shrieking tantrum, which is fucking hilarious.




God, I love you.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

DEC 31, 2007 12:06 PM

thefreak said:

JDPatriot said:
Once you start mentioning that, and showing how both Dems and Reps are idiots I will start to think your opinions are more then adolescent ravings. Until then, stop whining and crying about Ron Paul or whatever your weekly cause is.


You don't read too many FTR stories, do you?

-TM



only enough to suit his agenda.

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 31, 2007 12:07 PM

JDPatriot said:
It's amazing to me how much Ron Paul has managed to piss people off.

The same people who call Bush a fascist but believe Chavez, the Venezuelan dictator to be some sort of hero.

Maybe I support Ron Paul, maybe not, but the polarity of this is ridiculous. Someone isn't different from you any more, because accepting difference is politically correct. Instead, they are evil so it's okay to tear into them more then other candidates.

It's the same thing every week: Pick a republican / libertarian candidate, say they are pro-life and anti-evolution, and then paint them as evil.

What about the lies spewed by Hilary Clinton and Obama? What about THEIR support of the War on Terror and our Involvement in Iraq? What about the fact that the Democratic economic policies favor further entrenching corporations with subsidies and other forms of corporate welfare while crushing small businesses?

Once you start mentioning that, and showing how both Dems and Reps are idiots I will start to think your opinions are more then adolescent ravings. Until then, stop whining and crying about Ron Paul or whatever your weekly cause is.



Anytime you're ready.

Tiger_Fodder

Tiger_Fodder

Braintree, MA
June 2007

DEC 31, 2007 12:07 PM

A candidate that does not "believe" in scientific thought is not worth voting for. Clearly by refuting evolution, Mr. Paul is telling those that would back him that he does not believe that America need to be a country that takes science seriously. From a capitalistic viewpoint a country that is not focused on innovation led by scientific research is one that will lose to those that will keep innovating (like China). Is that the kind of President that a capitalistic USA needs?

As far as some of you complaining in here that liberals are bashing poor Mr. Paul only, you have not been paying much attention.

I believe that this crop of candidates on either side of the aisle are the worst group ever. For my taste none of them are progressive enough. Kucinich comes the closest, but I have a lot of issues with him as well.

ndklinst

ndklinst

New Albany, IN
February 2007

DEC 31, 2007 12:08 PM

grazing_cattle said:
Are you serious are we all still so attached to evolution? It just can't exist. Life cannot be simplified. If a single celled organism evolved into an animal, it would have to start as a fully formed animal. It can't evolve the lungs now the heart later, and so on. It goes multi celled organism straight to an animal. Fossil records don't show any creature that connects one animal to another. We should see thousands and thousands of evolving animals that show the long process of one animal becoming another. Nobody has ever observed any macro evolution. Not to mention all the evidence that points at our earth being so much younger then evolution needs to take place like fresh unfossilized dinosaur bones



It cracks me up that when people hear the word "evolution" they think it HAS to be the theory of how life was created. No one knows that, and to pick a stance on it is stupid. You just can't tell. There's no way, and almost no evidence.

What I'm quite sure what he's talking about is the evolution of the human race is somewhat more recent times. i.e. Why do we have useless parts of our body?
The pinky toe.
The tailbone.
The appendix.
Tonsils.
Wisdom teeth.

Explain please.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

DEC 31, 2007 12:11 PM

MrCrisp said:

thefreak said:

JDPatriot said:
Once you start mentioning that, and showing how both Dems and Reps are idiots I will start to think your opinions are more then adolescent ravings. Until then, stop whining and crying about Ron Paul or whatever your weekly cause is.


You don't read too many FTR stories, do you?

-TM



only enough to suit his agenda.



so just like most people read the Bible?

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