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Ron Paul: Just Another Religious Lunatic



Ah, yes, I just called the golden boy a religious lunatic. That is the term I apply to people in this day and age who do not believe in evolution and are against abortion. I can actually understand how someone can be against abortion and I don’t label those people lunatics but when it comes to not believing in evolution, you’re a nutter.



Well, there he was in all his glory, proudly declaring that he does not believe in the theory of evolution. But ignore all that because he wants to stop the Iraq War and bring out troops home. He wants to kill the IRS and let you roll around in your money. That sounds exciting, doesn’t it? Oh, and let’s not forget about the evil Federal Reserve. He’s going to do away with that all by himself, without the aid of Congress. Good luck.

Focus on all of those things. Do not pay attention to the fact that he DOES NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION. Or what he considers to be the greatest
moral issue of our time.


As an obstetrician who has delivered over 4000 children, I have long been concerned with the rights of unborn people. I believe this is the greatest moral issue of our time.


Strange, I don’t hear his cult yammering on about his abortion stance. Maybe they are so awed by his brilliance that they are ashamed to talk about it, so I will do so for them.

Ron Paul actually has the courage to compare the horrors of Nazis with abortion.


Unlike Nazi Germany, which forcibly sent millions to the gas chambers (as well as forcing abortion and sterilization upon many more), the new regime has enlisted the assistance of millions of people to act as its agents in carrying out a program of mass murder.


This might be the point where you liberals who support Paul should stand up and explain your asinine decision. The one thing anti-abortion activists all have in common is their sneaky attempts to undermine Roe vs. Wade. Whether using drunk driving cases in which a fetus was killed, or attempting to pass “Human Life Amendments” at the state level, or trying to pass laws that allow pharmacists to decline giving out the morning after pill, they rarely come at the issue head on. Ron Paul is no exception.


Pro-life libertarians have a vital task to perform: to persuade the many abortion-supporting libertarians of the contradiction between abortion and individual liberty; and, to sever the mistaken connection in many minds between individual freedom and the "right" to extinguish individual life.


Uh huh. And Ron Paul uses his “state rights” bullshit to push his religious lunacy on the public. What he is and all he has ever been is another religious fanatic who is attempting to force us to live his way of life. A man doesn’t write two books on stopping abortion if it is not one of the driving forces of his life. Check out 1983's Abortion and Liberty and 1990's Challenge to Liberty: Coming to Grips with the Abortion Issue.

As of late, he has tempered his rhetoric a bit because he doesn’t want to drive away his college minions. But earlier this year, Paul was spewing his anti-abortion glory.


This is a practical, direct approach to ending Federal court tyranny, which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn.


Well, if someone read me that sentence and asked who wrote it I would have said Huckabee or Pat Robertson. But it is none other the next hero of our country, Ron Paul.

Quite a few liberals are getting swept up in this lunatic’s anti-war talk without knowing much of his religious politics. But his stance against the Iraq War is not liberal, it is classic conservatism in the form of old fashioned isolationism. He just stands out because the Republicans have murdered classic conservatives. When it comes to the abortion issue, the only difference between Paul and his fellow religious nuts like Huckabee is the path to banning abortion. Huckabee wants a federal law making abortion illegal, Paul wants to do it one community at a time. Either way, he’s a nutter who believes that human beings are created at conception and doesn’t believe in that crazy theory of evolution.

 

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Heigai

Heigai

Columbus, OH
May 2004

DEC 31, 2007 10:46 AM

jameaterblues said:
i like ron paul because he's actually talking about new ideas to change our country and i agree with a lot of them. he's not spitting out a bunch of bullshit that people want to hear about 9/11 and gay rights. i am in no way religious and i am pro choice but this is a christian country and any of the canidates are going to be religious fanatics as far as i'm concerned. at least someone is out there bringing to light the problems in america and wanting to fix them. he may not accomplish his goals but it's a start.



Name one of his "new ideas." He's stolen a few planks from what Libertarian candidates have been running on for years. This is not a Christian country, and that's kind of beside the point.

Ron Paul is not trying to bring light to problems in America. He is doing what is good for Ron Paul, and if you even scratch the surface just a bit and look into what he believes, how he votes, and the legislation he introduces, I don't think you'd be as gung-ho on the good Doc.

PatrickY

PatrickY

Vancouver, WA
December 2003

DEC 31, 2007 10:47 AM

grazing_cattle said:

PatrickY said:

Ms_Magdalena said:

grazing_cattle said:
Are you serious are we all still so attached to evolution? It just can't exist. Life cannot be simplified. If a single celled organism evolved into an animal, it would have to start as a fully formed animal. It can't evolve the lungs now the heart later, and so on. It goes multi celled organism straight to an animal. Fossil records don't show any creature that connects one animal to another. We should see thousands and thousands of evolving animals that show the long process of one animal becoming another. Nobody has ever observed any macro evolution. Not to mention all the evidence that points at our earth being so much younger then evolution needs to take place like fresh unfossilized dinosaur bones




That reference seems a little bit biased.

I could be wrong, but. . . . . . surreal



There's no way a site which contains articles like "How did dinosaurs grow so big? And how did Noah fit them on the Ark?" could contain bias in any way, shape or form.



Right, because why would a site that talks about religious issues like creationism talk about other religious issues like Noah?



Right. Yes. That totally refutes any notion of bias. Of course.

grazing_cattle

grazing_cattle

Richmond, MI
August 2007

DEC 31, 2007 10:48 AM

PointBlank said:

grazing_cattle said:
You're all so gullible!! Here's a link to a religious website that refutes 100s of years of science!! Case Closed.



You really, really don't know what you're talking about.


Life can't be simplified? Really? So, if I want to impregnate a woman, I actually have to shoot a baby into her? Good to know, but it sounds painful.



So, your theory is that a multi celled organism just became a fully fertilized egg? Strange how this kind of thing has stopped happening since recorded history began.

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 31, 2007 10:49 AM

grazing_cattle said:

PatrickY said:

Ms_Magdalena said:

grazing_cattle said:
Are you serious are we all still so attached to evolution? It just can't exist. Life cannot be simplified. If a single celled organism evolved into an animal, it would have to start as a fully formed animal. It can't evolve the lungs now the heart later, and so on. It goes multi celled organism straight to an animal. Fossil records don't show any creature that connects one animal to another. We should see thousands and thousands of evolving animals that show the long process of one animal becoming another. Nobody has ever observed any macro evolution. Not to mention all the evidence that points at our earth being so much younger then evolution needs to take place like fresh unfossilized dinosaur bones




That reference seems a little bit biased.

I could be wrong, but. . . . . . surreal



There's no way a site which contains articles like "How did dinosaurs grow so big? And how did Noah fit them on the Ark?" could contain bias in any way, shape or form.



Right, because why would a site that talks about religious issues like creationism talk about other religious issues like Noah?



Either this is a joke, or you are.

Heigai

Heigai

Columbus, OH
May 2004

DEC 31, 2007 10:53 AM

grazing_cattle said:

PointBlank said:

grazing_cattle said:
You're all so gullible!! Here's a link to a religious website that refutes 100s of years of science!! Case Closed.



You really, really don't know what you're talking about.


Life can't be simplified? Really? So, if I want to impregnate a woman, I actually have to shoot a baby into her? Good to know, but it sounds painful.



So, your theory is that a multi celled organism just became a fully fertilized egg? Strange how this kind of thing has stopped happening since recorded history began.



How can you not notice that was sarcasm? He's suggesting that as the logical conclusion of your statement "Life cannot be simplified."

I think we're just all waiting with bated breath to find out exactly what you meant by that.

Also, if you want to reply sarcastically, I think you want to push your boundary a little further back than "since recorded history began." That only covers a few thousand years. Unless you're also saying you're a Young Earther, and if that is the case, then I'm pre-emptively done with this conversation.

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 31, 2007 10:53 AM

grazing_cattle said:

PointBlank said:

grazing_cattle said:
You're all so gullible!! Here's a link to a religious website that refutes 100s of years of science!! Case Closed.



You really, really don't know what you're talking about.


Life can't be simplified? Really? So, if I want to impregnate a woman, I actually have to shoot a baby into her? Good to know, but it sounds painful.



So, your theory is that a multi celled organism just became a fully fertilized egg? Strange how this kind of thing has stopped happening since recorded history began.



Spores are a lie, people. Burn your science textbooks.

PatrickY

PatrickY

Vancouver, WA
December 2003

DEC 31, 2007 10:55 AM

Toku666 said:

grazing_cattle said:

PointBlank said:

grazing_cattle said:
You're all so gullible!! Here's a link to a religious website that refutes 100s of years of science!! Case Closed.



You really, really don't know what you're talking about.


Life can't be simplified? Really? So, if I want to impregnate a woman, I actually have to shoot a baby into her? Good to know, but it sounds painful.



So, your theory is that a multi celled organism just became a fully fertilized egg? Strange how this kind of thing has stopped happening since recorded history began.



How can you not notice that was sarcasm? He's suggesting that as the logical conclusion of your statement "Life cannot be simplified."

I think we're just all waiting with bated breath to find out exactly what you meant by that.

Also, if you want to reply sarcastically, I think you want to push your boundary a little further back than "since recorded history began." That only covers a few thousand years. Unless you're also saying you're a Young Earther, and if that is the case, then I'm pre-emptively done with this conversation.



"Not to mention all the evidence that points at our earth being so much younger then evolution needs to take place like fresh unfossilized dinosaur bones"

sitar

sitar

Philadelphia, PA
June 2004

DEC 31, 2007 10:55 AM

this is good to know, thanks

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

DEC 31, 2007 10:56 AM

grazing_cattle said:

PointBlank said:

grazing_cattle said:
You're all so gullible!! Here's a link to a religious website that refutes 100s of years of science!! Case Closed.



You really, really don't know what you're talking about.


Life can't be simplified? Really? So, if I want to impregnate a woman, I actually have to shoot a baby into her? Good to know, but it sounds painful.


So, your theory is that a multi celled organism just became a fully fertilized egg? Strange how this kind of thing has stopped happening since recorded history began.


No, I'm pointing out that life often (read:always) starts off as a much simpler form of life. If you're going to use religion to refute science, please be honest about it, because:

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

DEC 31, 2007 11:00 AM

Cye said:


Ah, yes, I just called the golden boy a religious lunatic. That is the term I apply to people in this day and age who do not believe in evolution and are against abortion. I can actually understand how someone can be against abortion and I don't label those people lunatics but when it comes to not believing in evolution, you're a nutter.



wow. apparently im a religious looney as well cuz i think the theory of evolution is shit. and yea, your kinda a dick. i love how you can, without knowing a person personally, call them a religious fanatic. so thats me i suppose.
maybe you should think before you write.

since i dont go around call YOU a nut for believeing in evolution. thats your belief. but apparently your too immature for that sort of thinking...



Sorry, you're a religious lunatic. Just accept it. And read a book.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

DEC 31, 2007 11:02 AM

InLikeFlynn said:

PointBlank said:

InLikeFlynn said:
, I've always interpreted his stance on abortion as personally against with a strong belief that the final legislative decision should belong to the state and not the federal government. which on the face of it seems positive to me. so what am I missing?


If you believe the right to choice is a right, a state shouldn't be allowed to override it. Not complicated.

I'm also guessing you missed where he compared abortion to mass murder.



you're right about that, and thank you. I agree. but I do see where it might be complicated for people who believe that abortion is impinging on the human rights of the unborn and how that might be a matter for the courts to decide... and better at the state level than at the federal where it affects everyone in one sweep.

still, that's important to consider. so again, thank you.



So, we should take a look at this slavery thing again? It being solved at the national level and all.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

DEC 31, 2007 11:03 AM

grazing_cattle said:
Are you serious are we all still so attached to evolution? It just can't exist. Life cannot be simplified. If a single celled organism evolved into an animal, it would have to start as a fully formed animal. It can't evolve the lungs now the heart later, and so on. It goes multi celled organism straight to an animal. Fossil records don't show any creature that connects one animal to another. We should see thousands and thousands of evolving animals that show the long process of one animal becoming another. Nobody has ever observed any macro evolution. Not to mention all the evidence that points at our earth being so much younger then evolution needs to take place like fresh unfossilized dinosaur bones



Yeah, let me toss out that degree I have in geology because you just devastated 5 years of college education.

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 31, 2007 11:04 AM

Cye said:


Ah, yes, I just called the golden boy a religious lunatic. That is the term I apply to people in this day and age who do not believe in evolution and are against abortion. I can actually understand how someone can be against abortion and I don't label those people lunatics but when it comes to not believing in evolution, you're a nutter.



wow. apparently im a religious looney as well cuz i think the theory of evolution is shit. and yea, your kinda a dick. i love how you can, without knowing a person personally, call them a religious fanatic. so thats me i suppose.
maybe you should think before you write.

since i dont go around call YOU a nut for believeing in evolution. thats your belief. but apparently your too immature for that sort of thinking...



Uhhhhhhh.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

DEC 31, 2007 11:07 AM

BlastProcessing said:
Spores are a lie, people. Burn your science textbooks.


But...what if that's what the pod people want us to think?

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-TM

grrowler

grrowler

Sarasota, FL
October 2007

DEC 31, 2007 11:09 AM

Who cares what he personally believes about how life started?
I don't care what any of the candidates believe about evolution because it isn't fucking relevant to leading this country. Imo schools shouldn't be teaching evolution or anything else about how life started because believing one thing or another has a lot to do with religion, and religion and religious beliefs (in nature) should be left out of public school. What if you don't believe in evolution because your religious beliefs contradict it and every peer in your school does believe in evolution? You get ridiculed for it.

States already have the choice to make their laws different from another state. That's why gambling can be illegal in one state and legal in the next; also why age of consent is different from state to state. Culture and social rules are different from state to state and I think the government understands this. IF a particular state is particularly religious and rules against abortion, then so be it. Go across the state line to get it done >.< However you know no state is going to rule against abortion.

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