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Anti Immigrant Crowd Full Of Shit On The Medical Front

FRIDAY DECEMBER 14 2007 9:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Illegal Immigration, Health Care

Ah, the dirty illegal immigrant. They are responsible for all of the horrible problems facing our nation today and will soon become the Republicans talking point for the �08 elections. Never mind that the issue usually polls fifth or lower on American�s most important issues, they are brown and most importantly, they can�t defend themselves. The perfect target. What illegal immigrant will be appearing on "Larry King Live" or "20/20" to make their case? Turns out, none. Unfortunately, these pesky things called facts keep getting in the way of the immigrant hating kids arguments. The biggest fallacy is that illegal immigrants are the biggest problem facing our health care system.

The costs of medical care for immigrants are staggering.

Well, that is a load of bullshit. Just take a look at this UCLA study released last month.

Illegal immigrants from Mexico and other Latin American countries are 50% less likely than U.S.-born Latinos to use hospital emergency rooms in California, according to a study published Monday in the journal Archives of Internal Medicine.

But�but�they are brown and bad. Turns out illegal immigrants don�t like to go to hospitals or doctors because�they are illegal immigrants. Seems they don�t being asked for ID cards, Social Security numbers and their employment history. How any retard could not have figured that out is beyond me. They live in fear, the last place they want to go is to a hospital and answer questions.

"The current policy discourse that undocumented immigrants are a burden on the public because they overuse public resources is not borne out with data, for either primary care or emergency department care," said Alexander N. Ortega, an associate professor at UCLA's School of Public Health and the study's lead author. "In fact, they seem to be underutilizing the system, given their health needs."

Last year RAND also published a study that indicated illegal immigrants are not as costly as everyone seems to think they are.

A Rand Corp. study published last year in the journal Health Affairs put the cost of healthcare for illegal immigrants nationwide at $1.1 billion a year, excluding care for those younger than 18 and older than 64.

That�s about 11 bucks per household. Now, how much money do you think you save from their cheap labor?

Another 2005 study came to the same conclusion.

Immigrants in the U.S. receive surprisingly little health care - 55% less than native-born Americans -according to a Harvard/Columbia University study that appears in the current issue of the American Journal of Public Health. Immigrant children received particularly low levels of care, 74% less overall than other children.

Another reason we don�t spend very much on illegal immigrants is because we only give them bare minimum care. Due to 1986 Medicaid reforms, illegal immigrants can only receive emergency care that is� necessary to stabilize a patient.� After that, they have to pay. So, basically, we pick up the tab for care that keeps them alive and nothing else.

Oh, and illegal immigrants also pay taxes. What? Yeah, you heard me, you unread donkey. They pay taxes. According to a new Congressional Budget Office report on health care and immigration, illegal immigrants also get hit by the tax man.

The CBO reports that in 2004, undocumented immigrants in Iowa paid between $45.5 million and $70.9 million in state income and sales taxes and New Mexico collected $69 million in income, property, and sales taxes from undocumented immigrants in 2006. Immigrant payment of sales tax is especially important, because it reimburses state and local governments.

They also kick some serious pesos into Social Security and Medicare � and they won�t see a fucking dime of that money.

The estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year.

In 2004, illegal immigrants contributions came to 10 percent of that year�s surplus. But you keep crying about the brown people, while they work so you can sit your fat ass down at the age of 65. The CBO concluded that between 50 and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local taxes, which means 25 to 50 percent do not. Not exactly what we are led to believe by the anti-immigrant lunatics, is it? Meanwhile,

16.3 percent of Americans are taking a pass on paying taxes. I wonder how many of them complain about illegal immigrants?

You�re going to hear a lot from the Republicans about how horrible illegal immigrants are over the next few months. They are the new gay marriage. They are going to be portrayed as evil, little, welfare queens who are overwhelming our system. But as far as medical care goes, know they are pretty full of shit.

Take a look at who is really skyrocketing the cost of our health care:

A record 47 million Americans did not have health insurance last year, while the percentage of children without insurance rose for a second consecutive year, according to US Census Bureau data released yesterday

Yeah, 47 million Americans is a tad bit more than 10 million illegal immigrants, especially when you factor in the above study claiming illegal immigrants are 50% less likely to seek out care. So, shut your fucking clown holes and fix the real problem first. Then you get to go after the smaller problems.

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jonkauffman

Howell, MI

December 2007

DEC 14, 2007 09:08 AM

Who cares?

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA

April 2005

DEC 14, 2007 09:16 AM

jonkauffman said:
Who cares?

You know, there is this concept, that if you have no interest in the subject being discussed (or nothing intelligent to contribute), you don't have to contribute. It's much better than making stupid comments.

Ms_Magdalena

Minneapolis, MN

February 2007

DEC 14, 2007 09:20 AM

KUNGFOO said:

jonkauffman said:
Who cares?

Additionally, this is sort of a big issue to be aware of (whichever way you look at it) for the impending election, though the polls don't recognize it as being a top priority.

So in other words - You ask, "who cares?" I say a lot less people than should.

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA

April 2005

DEC 14, 2007 09:23 AM

The positive spin on this; the GOP really doesn't have much to run on anymore. Xenophobia, it seems, it their only game plan to bring out the base. The Democrats would have to try pretty hard to fuck this one up.

Ms_Magdalena

Minneapolis, MN

February 2007

DEC 14, 2007 09:25 AM

KUNGFOO said:
The positive spin on this; is that the GOP really doesn't have much to run on anymore. Xenophobia is all they have left to really bring out the base. The Democrats would have to try pretty hard to fuck this one up.

Thankfully.

Chainlink

Christmas Island

August 2005

DEC 14, 2007 09:26 AM

KUNGFOO said:

jonkauffman said:
Who cares?

Well of course, unless you enjoy being mocked and ridiculed.

Chainlink

Christmas Island

August 2005

DEC 14, 2007 09:26 AM

Jebus brings all the base to the yard.

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA

July 2004

DEC 14, 2007 09:32 AM

So you're saying that I, as a middle-class, professionally educated, uninsured white man, am more of a drain on our national health system than the dirty brown illegals running over our borders?!?!

Racist.

PatrickY

Vancouver, WA

December 2003

DEC 14, 2007 09:39 AM

Subrosa said:
So you're saying that I, as a middle-class, professionally educated, uninsured white man, am more of a drain on our national health system than the dirty brown illegals running over our borders?!?!

We oughta build a wall for people like you.

maliceide

Oklahoma City, OK

December 2006

DEC 14, 2007 09:46 AM

If people want to come to our country and work, pay taxes, and contribute to society then what is the big fucking deal. Illegal immigration is the fad issue of the 2008 election cycle. Just like it was gay marriage in 2004. Don't hear much about that any more.

code_red

Portland, OR

July 2005

DEC 14, 2007 09:53 AM

That's a great way to show off that intelligence. Describe some more people in that classy archaic fashion you have chosen to use before, and maybe the insurance fairy will leave you something underneath your pillow. That is more likely to happen then people respecting you for your opinion which you have chosen to display. But hey, at least your educated.

Untimely

USA

January 2007

DEC 14, 2007 09:53 AM

Wait -- we have a national health care system? If we had one that actually worked, then maybe we could start complaining about people abusing it.

By my calculations, most of my tax dollars this year have been going to Halliburton, not paying to treat immigrants with TB.

On the other hand, if we didn't have such permeable borders to Mexico, I'd never be able to get my prescription drugs at a reasonable price. Thanks Big Pharma, for your Big Phist Phucking!

Gylrek

Chula Vista, CA

August 2007

DEC 14, 2007 09:59 AM

Illegals do pay sales Tax but I don't believe they pay Federal,state or social security taxes because you need a social security number To pay these taxes.Also in the case of Social security the employer has to match what you pay so wouldn't an employer just pay an illegal under the table?

I live in Southern California and one of our largest hospital chains (Scripps Hospitals) Has said "We refuse to ask immigrant status" so how can any type of study on how much Illegals use or non-use of our health care system be valid?

I do agree though that there are a lot more important issues that face America than immigration in this up coming election year

Ms_Magdalena

Minneapolis, MN

February 2007

DEC 14, 2007 10:07 AM

Gylrek said:
Illegals do pay sales Tax but I don't believe they pay Federal,state or social security taxes because you need a social security number To pay these taxes.Also in the case of Social security the employer has to match what you pay so wouldn't an employer just pay an illegal under the table?

I live in Southern California and one of our largest hospital chains (Scripps Hospitals) Has said "We refuse to ask immigrant status" so how can any type of study on how much Illegals use or non-use of our health care system be valid?

I do agree though that there are a lot more important issues that face America than immigration in this up coming election year

Yes, they do still pay federal and state taxes and Social Security. Fake Social Security numbers are not as hard to come by as you might imagine, so those illigal immigrants who aren't being paid "under the table" still wind up paying out just as much as the rest of us. They'll just never have the chance to utilize any social security they accrue.