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  • FRIDAY NOVEMBER 30 2007 9:00 AM

CNN Turns A Presidential Debate Into A Fucking Joke



As embarrassing as it is to be an American these days, with our pathetic political representation, disgraceful media and voter apathy, Wednesday night was an incredibly shameful display by CNN. The Republican YouTube debate started out like an episode of "America’s Funniest Videos" and didn’t get much better.

You might think it would be a good idea for presidential candidates to answer questions from the people who will be voting. The questions should be reflective of the issues that actually concern Americans and could potentially catch candidates more off guard than the typical reporter questions. Not when CNN picks them. In substance, they are the same type of typical reporter questions, but instead they are asked in incredibly undignified and retarded ways.

The ridiculousness kicked off with a montage of YouTube videos from the last debate: We saw an idiotic snowman, an alien, a graphic Richard Nixon ghost, little kids, a speaking Abe Lincoln photo, along with a speaking Ben Franklin bill, stuffed animals and real dogs that talk. And that was what we weren’t going to see! Ha ha ha. Wow, great start. Republicans are trying to figure out which candidate to pick and CNN is wasting time showing how they were complete assholes during the Democratic debate.

Then CNN played a video of some idiot from Washington who had written a song about the debate and tossed it up on YouTube. It was a shocking new low for a presidential debate. The song was high school-level, variety show bullshit and embarrassing to every man, woman and Ron Paul in that auditorium. But we got to watch the candidates awkwardly watch the idiot strum his guitar and sing for three minutes. You can tell a debate is not starting well when the host says.


Alright, enough with the singing, enough with the snowman, let’s begin the debate.


Now, close your eyes and picture Walter Cronkite saying that. How'd that go? Not so good, huh?

Anderson Cooper then got things off and running. We got immediately into one of the issues Americans care least about. Immigration! The two first questions can easily be summed up:


What the fuck you gonna do ‘bout it?


The third immigration question was from a small business owner and quite smart. But, hey, that’s three immigration questions! More than any other topic, I guess because it’s fifth on the list of important issues. Awesome!


    26% - The war in Iraq
    16% - Health care
    14% - Job creation and economic growth
    13% - Terrorism
    11% - Illegal immigration
    8% - The environment and global warming
    6% - Energy and the cost of gas
    3% - Social issues such as abortion and gay marriage
    1% - Other (vol.)


Sadly, only McCain and Huckabee came across as slightly human in their answers on immigration. The rest were idiots. Oh, and there were only two questions about Iraq. No questions about health care. No questions about job growth, the environment, energy, on and on.

Finally, we moved on to…the NAFTA Superhighway. You know, the thing that does not exist. Why not just ask a question about what the candidates would do if Mothra was attacked the US? The irresponsibility of CNN to allow shit like this on the air is astounding. The question was directed at Ron Paul who, of course, pretended like the NAFTA Superhighway is real. Wouldn’t want to freak out your psycho followers, would you Paul?

Then we had a couple of decent questions from two women. Nicely done. So, why not follow it up with a question from a cartoon Uncle Sam about eliminating income tax? Anyone notice these questions are aimed at adults running for the fucking White House? Why not a question about Iraq from Snuffleupagus? Or maybe a zucchini with lips could ask about Social Security?

Then came a guy eating corn and asking about farm subsidies, a gun control question from a guy irresponsibly handing firearms, some fucking idiot asking what guns the candidates owned, a douche bag asking them if they believe every word of The Bible, another asshat pretending he was two different people, a question from a cartoon Dick Cheney who was threatening the candidates with a gun and an asshole asking a question about his precious Confederate flag. Overall, it was an embarrassing display.

There were some interesting and effective questions asked, but they were few and far between. CNN attempted to make the debate “entertaining” and ended up creating an arena of shame.

The crowd itself was disturbing. The cheering of torture, while a man stands onstage who was actually the victim of torture, is beyond disgusting. Not all joined in the Roman like blood lust, but it was well over half. The crowd was obviously pretty much all white. When they showed a wide shot of the entire theater, I could only see one black man. But I’d like to thank CNN for showing close ups of two different black men. Must have been hard to find them with all those white faces. Zero in on that oddity. Brava.

Mike Huckabee was the clear winner. He was well spoken, funny and focused. Mitt Romney stumbled quite a bit, particularly on The Bible question. Rudy Guiliani was on the defensive a lot and Fred Thompson was just pathetic. Not so easy without a script, eh, gramps? Ron Paul just seemed outclassed and was definitely the most booed candidate on the stage. But the strangest man to watch on that stage was John McCain. On one hand he seemed old and a bit tired, but then it became apparent that he didn’t know what the fuck had happened to his party. Here was a man who used to be completely conservative but is now considered a moderate. He often seemed disgusted with the black and white answers of his fellow candidates and the total lack of substance in their answers. He was visibly angry at Mitt Romney’s pro-torture response to one question. It made me remember why I liked him back in the day. Sad.

 

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JunkyardAngel

JunkyardAngel

San Gabriel, CA
February 2006

NOV 30, 2007 10:33 AM



Why not a question about Iraq from Snuffleupagus? Or maybe a zucchini with lips could ask about Social Security?



If all righteous indignation was expressed in this manner, the world would be a better place.

And um...for once I totally agree with FTR.

freshprncebelair

freshprncebelair

Ellicott City, MD
June 2004

NOV 30, 2007 10:38 AM



I just had an idea - ready? Youtuber's questions are chosen at random, only screened for the usual dumbass stuff, by an on-line vote from across America.



That would be great, because then ebaums could mod up questions like:

"Where can I buy battletoads?"

"What are you going to do about AIDS in the pool?"

"I herd u guyz liek mudkipz?"

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

NOV 30, 2007 10:46 AM

If the damn writers weren't striking they probably would have had much better responses.

Why do writers hate America ?

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

NOV 30, 2007 10:52 AM

i will say that the question from the woman asking the candidates if roe was overturned and abortion became illegal, what punishment should be given to women who get abortions was pretty awesome.

Formus

Formus

Milwaukee, WI
May 2007

NOV 30, 2007 10:56 AM

Skywisdom said:
Idiocracy?
The next Presidential debate is going to be American Idol style, with that British guy yelling at them.



I actually think an American Idol-style debate structure is necessary to get young people interested in the political system, and could be, in its weird way, not only informative, but fun to watch. If anything just to see Simon Cowell insult the fuck out of people who deserve it way more than fucking "Sanjaya."

darling0

darling0

Chicago, IL
August 2007

NOV 30, 2007 11:15 AM

So here's what I'm thinking... the SG collective pools their funds to buy an island, right? And then all of our news articles can be about how fucking awesome we are compared to the rest of the world. Personally, I think it's a brilliant plan.

sick

sick

Minneapolis, MN
June 2003

NOV 30, 2007 11:21 AM

You might think it would be a good idea for presidential candidates to answer questions from the people who will be voting. The questions should be reflective of the issues that actually concern Americans and could potentially catch candidates more off guard than the typical reporter questions. Not when CNN picks them. In substance, they are the same type of typical reporter questions, but instead they are asked in incredibly undignified and retarded ways.



So you might think. However, the average American is...well, average. By definition, most people are average, some are brilliant, and some are incredibly stupid.

This sort of debate might even work if we had average people participating. But the stupidest seemed to be chosen.

I know there are a lot of bloggers out there who may be reading this, and I'll probably offend you, but there is something to be said about professional journalism. Putting the media in the hands of the common man is all well and good, except that the common man is generally an idiot and doesn't necessarily have the knowledge, training, ethics, or professionalism to produce quality material.

Sure, the professional media may at times be biased, corrupt, and all the rest, but when it works, it works well, and is more likely to do so than something run by masses.

Wow...that was irrelevant, wasn't it?

ardour

ardour

Canada
March 2006

NOV 30, 2007 11:22 AM

I didn't watch it, but I read Salon's coverage of it.

Retired Brig. Gen. Keith Kerr gets in front of his webcam to describe his 43 years of service to the nation. Then he drops this bomb: "I'm an openly gay man." He asks the candidates why they think American men and women in uniform are not professional enough to serve with gays or lesbians.



This sounded like a good question, though you didn't mention it, so maybe it only sounds good being read.

401kboy said:
cnn was worthless. they tried to portray republican voters as gun nuts and religious psychos ( the bible guy was especially sick).



Have you read/seen the conservative presence on youtube? I'd say if that's all they came off as, they were being courteous. If YouTube is an accurate portrayal of how people really are, then God help us all.

FearTheReapersaid:
There were some interesting and effective questions asked, but they were few and far between. CNN attempted to make the debate “entertaining” and ended up creating an arena of shame.



I remember once turning CNN on they were playing Spice Girls in the background or something ridiculous. Up until a few years ago, CNN was really the only accessable 24 hour US news source for Canadians in the area I lived. Friends would comment to me about how awful it was, especially when the Iraq war started. They found it unbelievable when I mentioned a lot of Americans thought it was overly liberal. I don't know if we get Fox News up here yet, but I can't imagine the reaction.

s5

s5

San Francisco, CA
OLD SKOOL

NOV 30, 2007 11:23 AM

Honestly I don't see what the fuss is about. None of the Republicans are going to win, and none of them are campaigning on any issues that actually matter. Why not turn it into a joke. Their party is ridiculous, and pretending like they have anything of substance to contribute to modern discourse would be the ultimate insult to our intelligence.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

NOV 30, 2007 11:42 AM

Sick said:

You might think it would be a good idea for presidential candidates to answer questions from the people who will be voting. The questions should be reflective of the issues that actually concern Americans and could potentially catch candidates more off guard than the typical reporter questions. Not when CNN picks them. In substance, they are the same type of typical reporter questions, but instead they are asked in incredibly undignified and retarded ways.



So you might think. However, the average American is...well, average. By definition, most people are average, some are brilliant, and some are incredibly stupid.

This sort of debate might even work if we had average people participating. But the stupidest seemed to be chosen.

I know there are a lot of bloggers out there who may be reading this, and I'll probably offend you, but there is something to be said about professional journalism. Putting the media in the hands of the common man is all well and good, except that the common man is generally an idiot and doesn't necessarily have the knowledge, training, ethics, or professionalism to produce quality material.

Sure, the professional media may at times be biased, corrupt, and all the rest, but when it works, it works well, and is more likely to do so than something run by masses.

Wow...that was irrelevant, wasn't it?



Good point, but unfortunately, big media dropped the ball long ago. They made their own bed.

strndniowa

strndniowa

Grimes, IA
May 2007

NOV 30, 2007 12:00 PM

We didn't need CNN to turn the election into a huge joke...in poor taste...its been well on its way towards that for a long time...and as an Iowan I just get to be assaulted by these idiots a little before everyone else...and if you want real news, try the BBC...the American press is damn near as absurd as this election mad

SilverJimmy

SilverJimmy

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

NOV 30, 2007 12:14 PM

strndniowa said:
if you want real news, try the BBC...the American press is damn near as absurd as this election mad



National Public Radio (NPR) is syndicated and available in many markets. Of course, much of the content is direct from BBC wink

For those in Los Angeles, you can get your NPR fix along with great local news from either KPCC or KCRW (to name a couple).

Cairo

Cairo

SUICIDEGIRL

Maryland, USA

NOV 30, 2007 12:19 PM

I had it on as background noise whilst wasting time online and didn't start paying attention until they repeatedly assured a retired gay soldier that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was working fantastically and that they knew this because all of their straight military friends had told them so. Then I had to turn it off.

ardour

ardour

Canada
March 2006

NOV 30, 2007 12:31 PM

s5 said:
Honestly I don't see what the fuss is about. None of the Republicans are going to win, and none of them are campaigning on any issues that actually matter. Why not turn it into a joke. Their party is ridiculous, and pretending like they have anything of substance to contribute to modern discourse would be the ultimate insult to our intelligence.



I don't see the majority of people described in those YouTube videos as voting for any democrat.

It's nice to think that they're in the minority, and maybe that is so. But when Fred Thompson (a former US senator) says overturning Roe v. Wade "should be our number one focus right now." he IS playing to someone, and he thinks it'll get him a shot at president.

Those people are out there, and I wouldn't just write them off.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

NOV 30, 2007 12:36 PM

s5 said:
Honestly I don't see what the fuss is about. None of the Republicans are going to win, and none of them are campaigning on any issues that actually matter. Why not turn it into a joke. Their party is ridiculous, and pretending like they have anything of substance to contribute to modern discourse would be the ultimate insult to our intelligence.



Yes, lets continue to dismiss the party that got George W Bush "elected" twice.

Ridiculous:yes. Unable to win next year:not so sure.

BTW, they also had the retarded YouTube debate with the Democrats. It's embarrassing.

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