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  • TUESDAY NOVEMBER 27 2007 9:00 AM

We Take A Small Step Closer To Fahrenheit 451



The book Fahrenheit 451 was originally a novella called The Fireman. It was written by Ray Bradbury and was meant as a critique of American society. In the book, critical thinking is suppressed and firemen are actually book burners. Bradbury explained what the book was about.


Fahrenheit 451 is a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which ultimately leads to ignorance of total facts.


Sounds pretty on target as far as where we are today, except for the role of firemen in our society. They are regarded as heroes, who sacrifice their lives to save what we hold dear. Firemen are the ultimate example of good in our society. But the Bush administration loves to ruin everything and they now have their sights set on firemen.


Firefighters in major cities are being trained to take on a new role as lookouts for terrorism, raising concerns of eroding their standing as American icons and infringing on people's privacy.

Unlike police, firefighters and emergency medical personnel don't need warrants to access hundreds of thousands of homes and buildings each year, putting them in a position to spot behavior that could indicate terrorist activity or planning.


Uh, what? What the fuck is happening? The government is already monitoring our phone calls, our emails, where we fly, our purchases and can turn our cell phones into a listening device whenever they want and now they want to turn our firemen in spies and narcs. Fuck off.

The Homeland Security Department is now testing their new fireman as narcs program in New York City. Firemen are being taught how to “identify material or behavior” of terrorists. If things go well, it will be expanded across the United States of Creepy.


"They're really doing technical inspections, and if perchance they find something like, you know, a bunch of RPG (rocket-propelled grenade) rounds in somebody's basement, I think it's a no-brainer," said Jack Tomarchio, a senior official in Homeland Security's intelligence division.


Yeah, no shit, asshole. Now, why do I think that firemen don’t actually need to be trained to turn someone in if they find RPG’s in a basement? Nice try with the spin, but I’m not a fucking moron. This program is about snooping and getting around warrants; using men who should be doing no such thing.


Even before the federal program began, New York firefighters and inspectors had been training to recognize materials and behavior the government identifies as "signs of planning and support for terrorism."

When going to private residences, for example, they are told to be alert for a person who is hostile, uncooperative or expressing hate or discontent with the United States; unusual chemicals or other materials that seem out of place; ammunition, firearms or weapons boxes; surveillance equipment; still and video cameras; night-vision goggles; maps, photos, blueprints; police manuals, training manuals, flight manuals; and little or no furniture other than a bed or mattress.


Huh, so they already do all that. What a surprise. Now, what exactly are firemen not doing that Homeland Security wants them to do? Here’s a scenario: There is a call to 911 of a fire in a home. On there way there, firemen get a call over the radio telling them it is a possible terrorist home and to search the property. The firemen get there and tear the place up looking for information. Turns out the poor guy is not a terrorist, but his house has been ransacked. And hey, who made the 911 call in the first place? Because the guy who lives there didn't.

911 calls have been abused for years by police trying to get into a home, bringing firemen into the equation is bad fucking news. Although, some firemen seem to be okay with the idea.


D.C. firefighters and EMS providers are in 170,000 homes and businesses each year on routine calls, Schultz said.

"So we see things and observe things that may be useful to law enforcement," he said. "We can walk into your house. We don't need a search warrant." If an ambulance team shows up at a house and sees detailed maps of the District's public transit system on the wall, that's something the EMS provider would pass along, he said.

"It's the evolution of the fire service," said Bob Khan, the fire chief in Phoenix, which has created an information-sharing arrangement between the fire service and law enforcement through terrorism liaison officers.


Oh, good. Then don’t be too upset if a dislike of firemen follows.


It's of particular concern for communities already under law enforcement scrutiny. "Do we want them to fear the fire department as well as the police?" German asked.


Yes, you do. And hopefully after this program is in place, we can get the cable guys going next.

 

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strndniowa

strndniowa

Grimes, IA
May 2007

NOV 27, 2007 02:12 PM

The comparison to Fahrenheight 451 is a bit off- however in many other ways our society is getting disturbingly close to the society in both that book and Orwells 1984- when I read those as a teenager, I was so happy to live in America instead of in those totalitarian societies. Now I live in the totalitarian society OF AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a change twenty years can bring-and what in hell will the next twenty years bring puke

pariah002

pariah002

Yugoslavia
July 2003

NOV 27, 2007 03:09 PM

I don't even know where to begin or what to say.
I think the thing that bothers me the most is the number of people in our society who think this is ok and keeps us safe.
Or maybe it is the number of people who don't realize/don't care that this is happening.
All of this just makes me ill beyond words.
And my friends wonder why I am not too keen on moving back to the states.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

NOV 27, 2007 03:12 PM

Maybe there ought to be some sort of armed militia to rein the government in, or something. That could work.

</sarcasm>

emperorreagan

emperorreagan

Baltimore, MD
January 2004

NOV 27, 2007 03:19 PM

This government is bringing every delusional, paranoid fantasy I've ever had to life.

I'm going to start praying for Zombie Jefferson to come back and eat the government.

Formus

Formus

Milwaukee, WI
May 2007

NOV 27, 2007 03:22 PM

emperorreagan said:
This government is bringing every delusional, paranoid fantasy I've ever had to life.

I'm going to start praying for Zombie Jefferson to come back and eat the government.


And rape its black women?

emperorreagan

emperorreagan

Baltimore, MD
January 2004

NOV 27, 2007 03:31 PM

Formus said:

emperorreagan said:
This government is bringing every delusional, paranoid fantasy I've ever had to life.

I'm going to start praying for Zombie Jefferson to come back and eat the government.


And rape its black women?



Do zombies have functional penises?

asbestosman

asbestosman

Australia
October 2005

NOV 27, 2007 03:47 PM

So fucked.

Any chance the supreme court is gonna squash this?

wereduck

wereduck

I'm lost
July 2007

NOV 27, 2007 03:52 PM

emperorreagan said:

Formus said:

emperorreagan said:
This government is bringing every delusional, paranoid fantasy I've ever had to life.

I'm going to start praying for Zombie Jefferson to come back and eat the government.


And rape its black women?



Do zombies have functional penises?



Have you ever seen "Dead Alive" (also called "Braindead")?

jpaul256

jpaul256

Spring, TX
June 2006

NOV 27, 2007 03:56 PM

All things being equal, I would typically respond to this essay, pointing out the factual errors and questioning the basis for the position taken by FTR.

However, that all changed yesterday. For it was then that I received two emails from a "moderator" on this site warning against further posts. It would appear that the numerous attacks that have been lodged against me by some on this site (Chainlink, FearTheReaper, MrCrisp, for example) have been deemed acceptable to the powers that be. However, defending myself and offering an alternate point of view is not.

This "moderator" indicated that a change in behavior would be necessary or my ability to post on this site and maintain a public profile would be removed.

Hurrah for Free Speech!

So, I leave the forums on this site to you, dear leftist. Be safe and secure knowing that I and other moderates/conservatives on this site have been effectively removed from the debate. And as best I understand it, I am the most recent in a long line of moderates/conservatives who have received similar warnings and given up the ghost.

Have fun with your incestuous political debates!

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

NOV 27, 2007 04:02 PM

Aw shucks. He sure told us.

firescape1

firescape1

I'm lost
August 2006

NOV 27, 2007 04:05 PM

so should I keep my WMD's at my sister's house?

asbestosman

asbestosman

Australia
October 2005

NOV 27, 2007 04:08 PM

I think that sucks. I'll miss you, jpaul. You and your adorable opinions.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

NOV 27, 2007 04:09 PM

jpaul256 said:
All things being equal, I would typically respond to this essay, pointing out the factual errors and questioning the basis for the position taken by FTR.

However, that all changed yesterday. For it was then that I received two emails from a "moderator" on this site warning against further posts. It would appear that the numerous attacks that have been lodged against me by some on this site (Chainlink, FearTheReaper, MrCrisp, for example) have been deemed acceptable to the powers that be. However, defending myself and offering an alternate point of view is not.

This "moderator" indicated that a change in behavior would be necessary or my ability to post on this site and maintain a public profile would be removed.

Hurrah for Free Speech!

So, I leave the forums on this site to you, dear leftist. Be safe and secure knowing that I and other moderates/conservatives on this site have been effectively removed from the debate. And as best I understand it, I am the most recent in a long line of moderates/conservatives who have received similar warnings and given up the ghost.

Have fun with your incestuous political debates!



The ability to learn is a mark of intelligence. Just saying.

Bonaparte

Bonaparte

Eugene, OR
September 2006

NOV 27, 2007 04:24 PM




Yeah, but only in your pants if you were in a porno.
eeek



i thought porno firemen were supposed to start pants-fires. am i wrong here?

but seriously, this is horrifying. after hearing so much stuff like this i just want to cover my ears and hum. i guess thats what they want. frown

WADO

WADO

Brooklyn, NY
March 2006

NOV 27, 2007 05:12 PM

This nicely brings back memories of when my apartment burned down last year, because I love imagining what could have happened to the rest of the buildings on the block if the firefighters had been thinking about terrorist possibilities instead of actually putting out the fires.

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