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THURSDAY NOVEMBER 15 2007 9:00 AM

Submitted by FearTheReaper. Edited By FearTheReaper.

TAGS: Colorado, abortions, Christians

Colorado apparently has its share of lunatics because yesterday the state Supreme Court gave an anti-abortion group the go ahead to try to put a measure on the ballot that would define a fertilized egg as a person. All they need to do is collect 76,000 signatures. Anyone want to bet that there are 76,000 Christian lunatics in Colorado?

This is the kind of election shit that liberals and centrists have to throw money at to defeat, which takes funds away from important races and also draws right wing voters to the polls. It won�t matter if the Christian right doesn�t like Rudy or McCain or Mitt, once they are in the booth, they will vote for one of them over which ever baby killer the Democrats pick.

The court approved the language of the proposal, rejecting a challenge from abortion-rights supporters who argued it was misleading and dealt with more than one subject in violation of the state constitution.

If approved by voters, the measure would give fertilized eggs the state constitutional protections of inalienable rights, justice and due process.

Super. Hey, you know that one book you read all the time? I don�t really want to live by it. Although, I�m not sure The Bible ever covered fertilized eggs. This is just another attempt to make abortion illegal. These people are creative little fuckers, aren�t they?

Another effect of the legislation would be to create problems for in-vitro fertilization and stem cell research. And some believe it would lead to a ban on birth control. The Christians, of course, disagree. There is nothing behind this effort!

"It doesn't outlaw abortion, it doesn't regulate birth control," said Kristi Burton, 20, of Colorado for Equal Rights. "It's just a constitutional principle. We're laying a foundation that every life deserves protection.�

Oh, you�re just laying down a little foundation. That�s totally cool. But, I have a question for you: If a little clump of human cells is a person, then is one of my hairs a person? What about one of my turds? Why not? They both have human cells in them.

"It's very clearly a single subject," Burton said. "If it's a human being, it's a person, and hey, they deserve equal rights under our law."

Uh huh. Maybe you guys could move somewhere else and start a theocracy.

The nutters have six months to collect the signatures. And they are not just focusing on Colorado. Christian groups are trying leading similar efforts in Montana, Georgia, Oregon, Michigan and South Carolina. The Republicans always need their crazy religious issue. For the 2004 presidential elections it was gay marriage. Now they will try to save microscopic peeps. Expect a massive turnout in Colorado in 2008.

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swirlyboy

I'm lost

April 2006

NOV 15, 2007 01:58 PM

401kboy said:
I believe the record for youngest "fetus" to become a "baby" is 17 weeks. That should make you think.

Please don't assume that everyone who finds abortion repugnant is a "Christian Lunatic". I don't consider myself a lunatic. I do agree that political stunts like this one do not help anyone.

In my mind, the best way to curb abortions (and I do think we should try to reduce their numbers) is to make safe birth control available to anyone who requests it, and to make sure that they know why they need it and how to use it.

I would love to live in a world where abortion wasn't used as another means of birth control. BUT, it's legal here, and ;making it illegal would be as insane as Prohibition.

That's the problem. Lunatics don't consider themselves lunatics.

MrStitches

Sag Harbor, NY

November 2003

NOV 15, 2007 02:00 PM

minimalism said:

darling0 said:

Necrowombicon said:
It's nearly time for another revolution.

+1000.

It's too bad the cool blue states on the West Coast are so far away from the cool blue states on the East Coast or we could just form a more perfect union already.

Well, when the revolution comes, we just fight towards each other, and meet up in the middle. Like the railroads, but without Chinese slave labor.

swirlyboy

I'm lost

April 2006

NOV 15, 2007 02:02 PM

CatWorship said:
Here's what needs to be done: outlaw pregnancy! Make it illegal to have a baby. Then watch as all the christian right lunatics start using the "it's my body, my choice" arguments. Besides, it's time to let this species die.

Well played, sir

minimalism

Garwood, NJ

OLD SKOOL

NOV 15, 2007 02:03 PM

With you on this one. I'm not pro choice, I'm so pro abortion that I think all fetuses should be killed.

minimalism

Garwood, NJ

OLD SKOOL

NOV 15, 2007 02:03 PM

swirlyboy said:

That's the problem. Lunatics don't consider themselves lunatics.

Also know as "Catch-22."

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA

July 2004

NOV 15, 2007 02:14 PM

bmp said:
uhmm, this article is complete bullshit. THIS is what democracy is. AND Is democracy in action.

That's really fascinating because we're not a democracy. We're a Constitutional Republic with democratic ideals. And unless I'm completely wrong on my Canadian civics (which is possible because really, who the fuck cares about Canadian civics?) so are you. I could get into a big long discussion about what a Constitutional Republic is and how it contrasts with a democracy, but all you need to know is that this:

Maybe YOU dont agree with the policy, but others do, and it is rule by majority

Is completely and utterly wrong. Thanks for playing.

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost

October 2006

NOV 15, 2007 02:25 PM

Asshats from outside the US, please continue to make idiotic and uninformed statements about how our government works. Your stupidity amuses me.

And to everyone who has some kind of opinion on what women should do in case of an unwanted or unexpected pregnancy, unless you yourself is willing to adopt one or more unwanted children, please, take your self-righteous bullshit with a big glass of shut-the-fuck-up. It's the womans choice, not yours, get over it.

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost

October 2006

NOV 15, 2007 02:26 PM

Double post....my connection sucks too....
Not having the best day...

soulcompromise

I'm lost

November 2006

NOV 15, 2007 02:45 PM

The main reason I think liberals are in favor of abortion is because then they can influence more impressionable voters to be liberal vs. some other sanction . Go green!!!! Forget abortion!!!!!

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost

October 2006

NOV 15, 2007 02:48 PM

soulcompromise said:
the only reason liberals like abortion is because they want to influence young eligible voters to be lib vs. some other sanction. Go green!!!! Forget abortion!!!!!

Can I get some of that awesome shit you're smokin'? I could really use to disassociate totally from reality like you are right now.

soulcompromise

I'm lost

November 2006

NOV 15, 2007 03:01 PM

The thing I do like about Liberals is that they're usually environment supporters from what I've heard. The thing I don't like is abortion and Laize Faire economics. It gives business owners power that should only be given to the government; to in a sense create their own regulatory measures that can make things confusing for the every day man.

Zarth

Seattle, WA

December 2004

NOV 15, 2007 03:05 PM

Subrosa said:

bmp said:
Maybe YOU dont agree with the policy, but others do, and it is rule by majority

Is completely and utterly wrong. Thanks for playing.

It's not "completely and utterly wrong", it's just run-of-the-mill wrong. What we have is a system that attempt to balance majority rule against individual and minority (i.e., human) rights. For some purposes, majority rule ought to win out. For others - such as this one - human rights ought to.

MrStitches said:
Just because a majority of people in a given geographic region decide that something is true doesn't make it true. This isn't about laws, it's a scientific issue. A fertilized egg is no more a person than an acorn is a tree. It's a cell with a diploid set of chromosomes. Even the bible doesn't go so far as to say that life begins at conception. Take "For the life of the flesh is in the blood" Lev 17:11 for example. A fertilized egg has no blood, so it is not alive by that definition. And, as much as I hate slippery slope talk, a law like this can lead to more places than just outlawing abortion.

Defining "humanity," which is to say personhood, isn't a scientific matter, though - it's an ethical one. Science is about data, not definitions. In fact, it's really more scientific literalism that's driving abortion opponents than Biblical literalism because, as you rightly point out, the Bible does not say that life begins at conception.

varukasalt said:

soulcompromise said:
the only reason liberals like abortion is because they want to influence young eligible voters to be lib vs. some other sanction. Go green!!!! Forget abortion!!!!!

Can I get some of that awesome shit you're smokin'? I could really use to disassociate totally from reality like you are right now.

I think he's high on Ron Paul.

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC

August 2004

NOV 15, 2007 03:12 PM

soulcompromise said:
The main reason I think liberals are in favor of abortion is because then they can influence more impressionable voters to be liberal vs. some other sanction . Go green!!!! Forget abortion!!!!!

you had me at " "
brilliant argument.

RON PAUL '08!

Zarth

Seattle, WA

December 2004

NOV 15, 2007 03:16 PM

MrCrisp said:

you had me at " "
brilliant argument.

RON PAUL '08!

Goonie goo-goo.

MrStitches

Sag Harbor, NY

November 2003

NOV 15, 2007 03:17 PM

Zarth said:

Eh, I think something has to be alive before you can decide if it is human or not. And I think you'd have a hard time finding a scientist that will tell you a fertilized egg is "alive." That's how it seems to me anyhow.

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