Yeah, I mean, it's not like states can't pass laws that do an end-run around the Constitution, right?

Wait, what 14th Amendment? Who's this "Roe" person?

People who cannot legally drink alcohol and have no clue about life outside of a sorority house should not be trying to change an important and eternal document like a state's fucking CONSTITUTION.

I see these well-dressed, preppy-looking teenagers protesting outside the abortion clinic by my house and it infuriates me. I can just see their thought process: "Look at me, I'm a grown up! I have very important opinions! I've never experienced any hardship and don't know anything about the real world, but you should really listen to what I have to say about your body!"

*sighs* Why am I not surprised to Michigan on there?

I feel like I am sleeping already.

+1000.

I'm pretty sure Jesus would bitchslap these people. In fact, he'd probably break his hand from having to bitchslap so many people. He'd need 12 apostles of bitchslapping to really get the job done.

It was time for a revolution around 7 years ago...and just getting worse

This is a tangent:

I find the idea of deciding a fertilized egg has rights and might be considered "alive" morbidly ironic, when most stillborn infants, even full-term ones that die in the birthing process, receive no birth or death certificates.

Can't logic, reason, and medical knowledge ever enter into GOP anti-abortion legislative attempts?? Just once can they get away from trying to legislate creationism?

this is a very touchy subject...for all reasonable purposes, this bill shouldn't pass. Does it make exceptions to rape? incest? the morning-after pill? what makes a 3 week old baby less of a baby than an 8 month old baby? Define baby. Does "it" become a baby when it looks more like the final thing at 9 months? Or does it become a baby at 6 months? When does life begin? After it's first cry? Can anyone know?
How is a man or woman becoming sterile (on purpose) any different from using contraception? Both ways are preventing life from occurring. The morning after pill and abortion put an end to life that might otherwise exist. I do think it's terribly irresponsible to have more children than you can take care of-I know of several families that have 6-9 children because they don't believe in contraception; I don't even know what to think of the parents other than it's ridiculous reasoning to have that many children, especially when they can't afford it. I am sure that if contraception was made available to minors without their guardians' knowledge/consent, abortion rates would go down to a point where this wouldn't be a huge issue anymore. Then again there's always people out there that would just as soon get a couple abortions a year than bother with contraception. Btw, how do men know what women go through emotionally to carry a baby to term or to go through an abortion?

Goddamn, I fucking HATE the Christian Right. They're always going on and fucking it up for everyone else.

I never understood where Christians are coming from, if the afterlife is eternal and so great, why do they care is a fucking cell inside a woman lives or now, or for that mater, why are they so afraid of death.

I'd say it's a human baby when it at least loses the damn tail.

i dont think it will pass (get enuff signatures? maybe)beside we where first in the nation to liberalize its abortion laws.

Well argued! Thanks for your clearly defined positions backed by evidence.



The people trying to pass this are idiots and their beliefs are stupid. I can't believe thinking people still have to deal with this kind of superstitious crap in the 21st century. All you need to do to make a baseless, unplausible delusion seriously considered these days is call it "religion" and it's somehow unassailable.

I believe the record for youngest "fetus" to become a "baby" is 17 weeks. That should make you think.

Please don't assume that everyone who finds abortion repugnant is a "Christian Lunatic". I don't consider myself a lunatic. I do agree that political stunts like this one do not help anyone.

In my mind, the best way to curb abortions (and I do think we should try to reduce their numbers) is to make safe birth control available to anyone who requests it, and to make sure that they know why they need it and how to use it.

I would love to live in a world where abortion wasn't used as another means of birth control. BUT, it's legal here, and ;making it illegal would be as insane as Prohibition.