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  • SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 23 2007 9:00 AM

Sally Field Needs To Shut Her Pie Hole



Last week, Sally Field won an Emmy for something. I don’t know what and I really don’t care. What happened after she took the stage to accept her award is what caught my attention.



Let’s face it, if mothers ruled the world there would be no God damn wars in the first place.


On behalf of half of the human race, I’d like to say, “Fuck off, Sally Field.” What an insulting, arrogant, untruthful load of shit. This is something I’ve heard for years from a few women, who have apparently never opened a history book. The idea that war is exclusive to males is ridiculous. Leaders are generally narcissistic assholes, whether male or female. The same crazy desire that makes someone want to actually run a country also makes one want to go to war. It’s about power and ladies throughout history have been drunk on it for hundreds of years.

But we can start right here in American, in this century, to prove Sally wrong. Here’s a list of female Senators who authorized the use of force against Iraq.


    Blanche Lincoln
    Dianne Feinstein
    Mary Landrieu
    Olympia Snowe
    Susan Collins
    Jean Carnahan
    Hillary Clinton
    Kay Bailey Hutchison
    Maria Cantwell


Why do you hate Sally, ladies? And love war? But, hey, they are just carrying on the tradition of women and war.

Russia has seen its share of women who carry on wars. In 1736 Anna Ioannovna declared war on the Ottoman Empire. Next up came Elizabeth, who led her country into the Seven Years War. (Maria Theresa of Austria also jumped in on that one.) In 1762 Catherine the Great took over Russia and went right to work expanding the Russian empire. She conquered Crimea, the Northern Caucasus and Ukraine for mother Russian, all through bloody conflicts.

How about England?

Queen Elizabeth I was a great mom. She also had Mary, Queen of Scots beheaded and fought a war against Spain. Later came Queen Anne who started a war that came to be known as Queen Anne’s War. The war was fought in North America, between France and Britain in North America. Spain and American Indian tribes were also involved. Next up was Queen Victoria, who was constantly at war, including the Crimean War, The Indian Mutiny, campaigns on North-west Frontier of India, campaigns in Africa including the Zulu War, the Boer War, and campaigns in Egypt and Sudan. And she was a mommy! Recently Margaret Thatcher went to war with Argentina over the tiny, useless Falkland Islands. Bad mommy!

What about Asia?

The Empress Dowager Cixi of China came to power in a bloody coup in 1861. In 1864 she sent her army to crush the Taiping Army and won! Her son must have been so proud! Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India, must have been a man because she went to war with Pakistan in 1971. Later, she ordered an attack on the holiest Sikh shrine in India, the Golden Temple, which led to the death of 450 people. Oh, and she accelerated India’s nuclear program, which resulted in India becoming the world's youngest nuclear power. She was also a mommy of two!

And we can’t forget about Israel and their hateful neighbors. Golda Meir, Foreign Minister and Prime Minister of Israel, also oversaw her countries nuclear weapons development program. I guess it was a present for her kids. In 1956, Golda helped to plan an Israeli-British-French attack on Egypt. Later, in 1973, she was forced to defend Israel against six Arab states.

On the other side of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are female suicide bombers. Is this the kind of mommy Sally was talking about?


A 22-year-old Palestinian mother of two small children, pretending to be disabled, killed four Israelis at a Gaza border crossing yesterday after duping soldiers into allowing her a personal security check rather than going through a metal detector.


What about this grandmommy?


On the television screen a woman is reading slowly from a sheet of paper held close to her face. The moment is awkward. Her hands shake, she avoids the camera and a large, black M-16 assault rifle hangs from her shoulders. Her head and neck are wrapped tightly in a white scarf.

This is the final message in the life of Fatma al-Najar, widow, great-grandmother, matriarch of her large family and, a few hours after this brief video was shot, the oldest Palestinian to become a suicide bomber.


Most importantly, we cannot forget about Admiral Helena Cain Pegasus, who attacked the Battlestar Galactica. That was fucking bullshit.

So, shut the fuck up Sally and all you other ladies who say that women wouldn’t start wars. It's insulting and it’s a load of horse shit. (And that includes my wife.)

 

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NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

SEP 28, 2007 04:50 AM

Clidna said:
It's kind of amusing that so many people are taking what she said seriously. I mean, come on, she's a celebrity. Celebrities say stupid things almost as much as George Bush.



People (the set of which presidents and celebrities are subsets) say stupid things with startling regularity.

Witness the CE boards for instance.

Sally isn't the first person to express this perspective and I for one am willing to give the concept a try in the US. Clearly women couldn't fuck it up any worse than men have.

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

SEP 28, 2007 09:26 AM

Cigarette said:

Mojave said:
hahaha you're all so clever! BRAVA! i don't remember the name of the country, i read about it years ago in national geographic. so Fuck Off.



Well let's see if we can't figure this one out..

Brunei--Ruled by male Sultans for the last 500+ years.
Indonesia--Has had one female head of state in the last 60 years
Laos--Male presidents since the 70s, and its previous head of state all seem to all be men
Malaysia--Male presidents for the last 50 years
Myanmar (formerly Burma)--Male heads of state as far back as I could find
Philippines--Two female presidents out of the last 14
Singapore--All male presidents, an all male Sultanate before that
Thailand--Men
Vietnam--Men

Those are all near Cambodia. Any of them ring a bell?



I'm on the phone to National Geographic now, and they just told me that they meant the other Cambodia.

ElizaTheTroll

ElizaTheTroll

Australia
January 2006

SEP 28, 2007 11:37 PM

NickFaust said:
Sally isn't the first person to express this perspective and I for one am willing to give the concept a try in the US. Clearly women couldn't fuck it up any worse than men have.



See, I don't disagree. Nothing wrong with doing the experiment. I just think expecting miraculous effects like world peace or an end to poverty, famine and casual Fridays would be putting a bit too much of a burden on our future maternal overladies.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

SEP 29, 2007 06:12 AM

TheFuckOffKid said:

Cigarette said:

Mojave said:
hahaha you're all so clever! BRAVA! i don't remember the name of the country, i read about it years ago in national geographic. so Fuck Off.



Well let's see if we can't figure this one out..

Brunei--Ruled by male Sultans for the last 500+ years.
Indonesia--Has had one female head of state in the last 60 years
Laos--Male presidents since the 70s, and its previous head of state all seem to all be men
Malaysia--Male presidents for the last 50 years
Myanmar (formerly Burma)--Male heads of state as far back as I could find
Philippines--Two female presidents out of the last 14
Singapore--All male presidents, an all male Sultanate before that
Thailand--Men
Vietnam--Men

Those are all near Cambodia. Any of them ring a bell?



I'm on the phone to National Geographic now, and they just told me that they meant the other Cambodia.



It's like a scavenger hunt. I need an Indian head penny, a rock that looks like a baby, and a functioning matriarchy near Cambodia.

Keri

Keri

SUICIDEGIRL

Virginia, USA

SEP 29, 2007 08:12 AM

OlafTheTroll said:

NickFaust said:
Sally isn't the first person to express this perspective and I for one am willing to give the concept a try in the US. Clearly women couldn't fuck it up any worse than men have.



See, I don't disagree. Nothing wrong with doing the experiment. I just think expecting miraculous effects like world peace or an end to poverty, famine and casual Fridays would be putting a bit too much of a burden on our future maternal overladies.



i think that "experimenting" ( whatever ) would be a great thing- but people would expect world peace, and end to poverty, etc...and when it doesn't happen everyone will say : "see i told you a woman couldn't do it!"
no matter what, if a woman does improve alot of things it will never be good enough. but i would really love to see a woman in power.

Tyvron

Tyvron

Ann Arbor, MI
September 2007

SEP 29, 2007 09:55 PM

Keri said:
i think that "experimenting" ( whatever ) would be a great thing- but people would expect world peace, and end to poverty, etc...and when it doesn't happen everyone will say : "see i told you a woman couldn't do it!"
no matter what, if a woman does improve alot of things it will never be good enough. but i would really love to see a woman in power.



I don't think anyone argued that women would be inherently incompetent in a world leadership position. The only people putting the burden of expectation of female leaders were the ones defending what Sally said. I personally wouldn't have any problem with a female president, but I'm not about to put her on a pedestal and expect her to issue in a golden age for humanity.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

SEP 29, 2007 11:18 PM

mingol said:

Mojave said:
actually its true what she said. here's some proof....the only country in the world that has never had war either internally or with outside countries is one run by women. although its a poor third world country somewhere around cambodia, the inhabitants have enjoyed many years of peace and comfort (there being little to no poverty even though the country itself is poor) i for one am sick of men being offended by the fact that its other pig headed foolish men that have fucked this country to begin with. if you ran the government perhaps it would be different but be man enough to face the facts that sally field is right, if women ran the world there wouldn't be any war, period, motherfuckers!



Wait, wait! I just remembered its name!

Damn you! You just made me shoot good scotch out my nose...

Note: I'm glad you picked up on this 'cause the original comment made me think of Shambhala.

mingol

mingol

Singapore
July 2005

SEP 30, 2007 05:31 AM

emotedcreations said:

Damn you! You just made me shoot good scotch out my nose...


Good scotch, you say? My apologies.

Benzino

Benzino

Winnipeg, MB
November 2006

SEP 30, 2007 04:51 PM

Saraah said:
Personally, I think Sally's comment was the thing that was insulting and misogynistic, not the responses in this thread. Oh, except for this:

Benzino said:
On a sidenote, anyone remember that bit on The Man Show aout what would happen if a woman became president and they had the woman on her period bombing randon countries? It was funny.



Which made me declare war on Benzino*

OMG, maybe its my ladytime! I get sooooooooooo bitchy. Lulz.

*apologies if you were kidding, Benzino. Something in the jaunty tilt of your head and the crisp cut of your ballcap tells me you are a legit Man Show fan, but if not, I will withdraw my troops



Grab a beer and drop your pants
Send your wife and kids to France
It's the Man Show
Quit your job and light a fart
Yank your favourite private part
It's the Man Show
It's the place where men can come together
Look at the jugs on that chick named Heather
Juggy Girls on trampolines time to loosen your blue jeans
It's the Man Show

ElizaTheTroll

ElizaTheTroll

Australia
January 2006

SEP 30, 2007 10:04 PM

Keri said:

OlafTheTroll said:

NickFaust said:
Sally isn't the first person to express this perspective and I for one am willing to give the concept a try in the US. Clearly women couldn't fuck it up any worse than men have.



See, I don't disagree. Nothing wrong with doing the experiment. I just think expecting miraculous effects like world peace or an end to poverty, famine and casual Fridays would be putting a bit too much of a burden on our future maternal overladies.



i think that "experimenting" ( whatever ) would be a great thing- but people would expect world peace, and end to poverty, etc...and when it doesn't happen everyone will say : "see i told you a woman couldn't do it!"
no matter what, if a woman does improve alot of things it will never be good enough. but i would really love to see a woman in power.



See, I think that might actually come pretty close to what FTR was trying to say in his usual convoluted way. wink

Jah

Jah

I'm lost
August 2005

OCT 02, 2007 03:35 PM

Somewhere...

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Forrest is very confused.

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