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  • FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 21 2007 9:00 AM

Time To Take The Dems Behind The Barn And Shoot Them



It happens all the time in movies. Really Bad Man talks Sort Of Bad Guy into fucking over his own friends. Sort Of Bad Guy does it because Really Bad Man is convincing and a little scary. So, Sort Of Bad Guy delivers his friends to Really Bad Man. Then Really Bad Man kills them and turns the gun on Sort Of Bad Guy.


    Sort Of Bad Guy
    But…but I helped you. I…I got you what you wanted.

    Really Bad Man
    You think I’d trust a guy who fucks over his friends?


Then Really Bad Man shoots Sort Of Bad Guy in the face. In this case, the Democrats are Sort Of Bad Guy and shooting them in the face seems like an okay idea.

I do not recall seeing, in my lifetime, a party so relentlessly pathetic as the current Democratic Party. Yesterday, I wrote about the Republican’s record-breaking filibuster festival. That sort of bullshit is to be expected from the Republicans, who have no concern about destroying America to get what they want. And the Democrats could do nothing to stop it. Yet, the Democrats don’t seem to realize that they should not actually help Republicans further their agenda. Yesterday, the Senate voted to condemn a MoveOn.org ad that criticized General Patreaus. In doing so, they spit in the faces of many who voted them into office.

Let me see if I can explain this to the Democrats: The Republicans have been trying to demonize MoveOn, but America just thinks it’s the usual partisan, left-right bullshit and doesn’t pay attention. Then you guys in the Senate vote to condemn MoveOn, which legitimizes the Republicans accusations. This is what’s known as a retarded move because, YOU DON’T VOTE AGAINST YOUR OWN BASE. It’s just at tip, you fucking idiots.

Voting to condemn the ad is voting to support the Republican agenda. It helps to justify Republican claims that MoveOn is a lunatic fringe group, which is an incredible exaggeration. Republicans fear MoveOn, because the group can quickly gather funds and attack Republican candidates anywhere in the nation. The right hates MoveOn because it is effective, not because it is a fringe group. Thankfully, Democrats just took a dump on the hand that feeds them. Nice work.

Harry Reid is a fucking idiot for allowing this vote onto the Senate floor. Yesterday the GOP stopped three important bills that the Democrats had put forward. Today, Dems should have told the GOP and their petty bill to go fuck themselves. Reid should have stopped the bill, then introduced several bills condemning Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh for their repeated hate speech. Or how about finally condemning the Swift Boat organization for making far worse allegations against John Kerry than MoveOn ever did against Patraeus? If Reid can allow himself to be manipulated and bullied by the minority party, he should step down. Immediately. Or at the very least, he should replace his picture on his Senate website with a douchebag.

The vote completely betrays the principle of the 1st amendment. We don’t give the Senate authority, salary, security, privilege and power so they can vote on what American citizens should and should not be saying. The ad said that if the General was not honest it would be a betrayal of the troops. How the fuck is that worthy of the Senate’s time? It’s called freedom, maybe these idiots should try to get an understanding of what it means.

In the end, what did the Democrats achieve by voting for this resolution? They insulted the people who worked so hard to get them into office in 2006. The let the left know that they are not entitled to the same free speech as the right wing and that if the Republicans pick on the Democratic base, their Senators will help to stick the knife in their gut.

See, the Democrats would rather go along with the bullshit than actually put up a fight. Better to fuck over the people who put you in office than show a little courage. And that is not just this vote, but everything. They rolled over when they were the minority party and now they are rolling over when they are the majority party. What was needed today was for one Democrat to stand up and say:


Hey, that ad was right. Patreaus’ report was a bucket load of bullshit and the lies need to stop.


But it won’t happen. Obama ran out the back door, like a coward. Hillary voted no.* All together, 25 Democrats voted to condemn a group that worked to get them elected. Could you envision the Republicans doing the same thing if the tables were turned? Yeah, me neither.

FearTheReaper just donated $100 to MoveOn. He's never given them money before, but it's the only way to appropriately respond to this idiocy.

*correction

 

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mingol

mingol

Singapore
July 2005

SEP 22, 2007 03:23 AM

Zarth said:

Heathen_Dave said:
Just so we can all be clear here...

Did this bill actually do anything?


No.


Sure it did. It gave a bunch of congresspersons the opportunity to wave a flag and say "Look how patriotic I am, I support the troops!"

But apart from that, no.

SomethingStupid

SomethingStupid

North Hollywood, CA
March 2004

SEP 22, 2007 05:49 AM

FearTheReaper said:
Your opinion could easily come out of the world's biggest pussy. I did not realize military members, whose job is to defend out country, could not take the brutal assualt of words. My God! We must save the soldier from words!


It has nothing to do with words. It has everything to do with the perceptions of those one is trying to convince when one runs that ad. The perception of people who agree with the ad before it ran is primarily pretty good. The perception of those who disagreed or were neutral is that Democrats are the anti-military douchebags that the right wing accuses them of being. Whether or not they're right doesn't matter; they get to vote, same as everyone else.

Bip

Bip

Washington, DC
January 2006

SEP 22, 2007 06:05 AM


Once again, I think Keith Olbermann sums up the situation surrounding this quite well in this opinion piece:



Is it wrong that I have a man crush on Mr. Olberman. love

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

SEP 22, 2007 06:25 AM

Archaneus said:

Admiral_Pants said:

Archaneus said:
legislating the denouncement of someone else's which is effectively saying they can't say what they said.



Once again for those of you in the back:

NO. IT'S NOT.

Keep trying, though. Maybe it'll be true the next time you say it.



You're right, they are not making it illegal to make the article and it's a truly pointless gesture with no actual political authority to it. However, they are still legislating their opinion that it was incorrect to print it. Legislating that someone's opinion was improper is implying that they shouldn't have said it. I'm done arguing this because everyone seems to be taking what I am saying as if I mean they are actually outlawing the act itself. What I am saying is that the act of voting on this in the senate is effectively saying that the government has the right to legislate their idea of "good taste," which is bullshit. I understand if you don't think it's a big deal that they did this but I believe it's a slippery slope situation. Regardless I'm withdrawing my hat from this conversation because it just keeps getting rehashed wrongly over and over again.



It keeps getting rehashed "wrongly" because you keep repeating the same incorrect assertions with zero factual basis for them. First you said it was unconstitutional. Then you said the government overstepped its bounds. Then you said what they did was tantamount to "effectively saying they can't say what they said" (when they did no such thing... there is a mountain of difference between "can't" and "shouldn't"). Now you're arguing it's a slippery slope despite the fact that Congress does shit like this ALL the time and always has.

There's no Constitutional issue here. There's no government overstepping their bounds. There's no slippery slope. It's simply a matter of Congress not feeling like they have better stuff to do than this bullshit. It's dumb, it's silly, it's a waste of time, sure. But it's not against the law or a Constitutional crisis, it's just Congress.

Heathen_Dave

Heathen_Dave

Birmingham, AL
July 2005

SEP 22, 2007 07:24 AM

reprobate said:

Heathen_Dave said:

mattacme said:
Its a continuing travesty that deeply irks me, a New Deal Democrat.

Is there no one out there with the stones to just stand up to these Republican SOBs and tell it like it is?



No. They need money. Money likes puppets. Money doesn't like individualists.



I'm sorry, are you planning on understanding what the the fuck you're blathering about any time soon? Just curious.



Thank you for your insight; You have added something profound to the conversation.

Heathen_Dave

Heathen_Dave

Birmingham, AL
July 2005

SEP 22, 2007 07:29 AM

Subrosa said:
There's no Constitutional issue here. There's no government overstepping their bounds. There's no slippery slope. It's simply a matter of Congress not feeling like they have better stuff to do than this bullshit. It's dumb, it's silly, it's a waste of time, sure. But it's not against the law or a Constitutional crisis, it's just Congress.



You sound like you're pitching a sitcom. One that, if written in the same style as The Office, might be a whole lot of fun to watch.

Necia

Necia

San Francisco, CA
August 2005

SEP 22, 2007 09:37 AM

Archaneus said:
Wow. I really can't understand what goes on in people's heads anymore. This is not only a violation of freedom of speech, which is purposely meant to protect contrary political opinion, but a downright stupid fucking move. The majority of this country is no longer in support of Bush's bullshit and to condemn something denouncing that very thing is a downright foolish political move. I wish we had some stronger people in the government on all sides to stand up and stop this kind of bullshit. I also wish the checks and balances of this country actually worked so that the Supreme Court would shit all over this for being the ridiculously unconstitutional abuse of power that it is. It's this kind of bullshit that really makes me sad I live in this fascist state trying to pretend it's a democracy.

In related news, Keith Olbermann is my new hero.



I realize that I'm late to this party, but you haven't studied constitutional law, have you?

I'm also tempted to ask whether you've studied fascism, either, but I'll leave that be for now.

aeriton

aeriton

Sugarloaf, PA
March 2007

SEP 22, 2007 05:57 PM

hmm most americans dont care about moveon.org or most liberal conservative bs.
The country would be better off if all the liberals and conservatives where thrown out of the country.

But I can understand why liberals are mad about the iraq war.. Its the third (if you count Korea and afghanistan wars) major american war launched in a hundred years by conseravtives. Guess the democrats are scared the republicans will end up starting more wars than them in the 21st century.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 22, 2007 06:25 PM

aeriton said:
hmm most americans dont care about moveon.org or most liberal conservative bs.
The country would be better off if all the liberals and conservatives where thrown out of the country.

But I can understand why liberals are mad about the iraq war.. Its the third (if you count Korea and afghanistan wars) major american war launched in a hundred years by conseravtives. Guess the democrats are scared the republicans will end up starting more wars than them in the 21st century.



Yeah, that's totally why liberals are upset about the war. Your point is completely retarded.

Eala

Eala

I'm lost
July 2007

SEP 23, 2007 01:33 AM

I see so many people calling the report by GEN Petreaus bullshit, but - be honest now - how many of you are actually qualified to make that call? Did you decide that you didn't like what he had to say, therefore it must be bull? Or are some of you actually here, in the shit, investigating the Iraqi condition yourselves? Until you've seen it yourself, don't be so hasty in your jugdement of those who have been here. Remember that all media has a purpose, and that purpose is not always to inform.
miao!!

cowboybert

cowboybert

West Palm Beach, FL
September 2006

SEP 23, 2007 01:41 AM

Subrosa said:

There's no Constitutional issue here. There's no government overstepping their bounds. There's no slippery slope. It's simply a matter of Congress not feeling like they have better stuff to do than this bullshit. It's dumb, it's silly, it's a waste of time, sure. But it's not against the law or a Constitutional crisis, it's just Congress.


Well, what does it mean exactly for Congress to vote to condemn a public statement? There has to be some point in it. Have they done that before? It seems like just one step away from banning certain ideas. It's sort of like a foot in the door, where they can say, well, since we've condemned it and gotten away with it, let's just go ahead and ban/censor dissent.

Admiral_Pants

Admiral_Pants

Austin, TX
May 2004

SEP 23, 2007 02:14 AM

cowboybert said:

Subrosa said:

There's no Constitutional issue here. There's no government overstepping their bounds. There's no slippery slope. It's simply a matter of Congress not feeling like they have better stuff to do than this bullshit. It's dumb, it's silly, it's a waste of time, sure. But it's not against the law or a Constitutional crisis, it's just Congress.


Well, what does it mean exactly for Congress to vote to condemn a public statement? There has to be some point in it.



You'd think so, but no.

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

SEP 23, 2007 03:49 AM

Admiral_Pants said:

cowboybert said:

Subrosa said:

There's no Constitutional issue here. There's no government overstepping their bounds. There's no slippery slope. It's simply a matter of Congress not feeling like they have better stuff to do than this bullshit. It's dumb, it's silly, it's a waste of time, sure. But it's not against the law or a Constitutional crisis, it's just Congress.


Well, what does it mean exactly for Congress to vote to condemn a public statement? There has to be some point in it.



You'd think so, but no.



Symbolism, no more.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 23, 2007 10:24 AM

nakedkitten said:
I see so many people calling the report by GEN Petreaus bullshit, but - be honest now - how many of you are actually qualified to make that call? Did you decide that you didn't like what he had to say, therefore it must be bull? Or are some of you actually here, in the shit, investigating the Iraqi condition yourselves? Until you've seen it yourself, don't be so hasty in your jugdement of those who have been here. Remember that all media has a purpose, and that purpose is not always to inform.
miao!!



Sorry we read. You should try it.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 27, 2007 11:03 AM

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