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Weak

Submitted by FearTheReaper

Edited by erin_broadley

Tags: Democrats, Republicans, Bush, Miers, Bolten



The Democrats are fucking weak. There is no other word in the English language that can describe them any better. Bush is so unpopular and out of control that it is shocking, yet the Democrats have done nothing to check the president’s belligerent power grab.

They certainly have talked a big game. Last year, in the run up to the elections, the future Speaker of the House let the country know what Democrats would do once they had control of Congress.


Pelosi was asked what was most important about regaining majority status. "Subpoena power," she said.


Fuck yeah! Subpoenas! How’s that going?

Well, back in early July, the House Judiciary Committee was investigating the US Attorney scandal. Bush’s ex-White House legal advisor, Harriet Miers, blew off a Congressional subpoena. She didn’t come and take the fifth. She didn’t come and claim she had executive privilege. She just decided not to show up because the president, her former employer, did not want her to. So, Harriet Miers BLEW IT OFF.

Chief of staff Josh Bolten refused to hand over White House documents to the House Judiciary Committee. He claimed executive privilege and told the Democrats to shove their oversight up their assholes.

The House Judiciary Committee gave both a couple of days, and then took action.


House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday formally recommended criminal contempt charges against former White House counsel Harriet Miers and chief of staff Joshua Bolten for their failure to comply with an investigation into the firing of eight US Attorneys.


Take that, you motherfuckers! The Democrats just recommended that something happen. You so in trouble!

Following the recommendation, the entire House would have to vote on whether or not to hold Miers and Bolton in contempt. If the House voted in favor of the recommendation, the case would then be sent to the US Attorney in DC. But, the Democrats did not take any action before the summer recess. Now they are back and…well, they are Democrats.


The Democratic leadership is unlikely to push for a full vote in the House until late September at the earliest. The reason, is that Democrats haven't yet "briefed lawmakers on what it would mean and how the controversy would play out, both legally and politically":

“I don’t think anything is going to happen on that for a while,” said House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel. “When you decide to do that, you have to make your best case. You want everyone to understand what’s happening and why.”

Emanuel said Pelosi and other top Democrats have not begun those consultations yet — and he was unsure when they would.


This should have been sent to the entire House for a vote in July. The President is setting a dangerous precedent for the future. If this goes unchecked, the balance of power in our government will forever be unequal. But, take your time Democrats. If you keep delaying, hopefully this can drag on until the President leaves office. And then you won’t have to actually stand up and fight for anything. Hell, maybe Bush can give you his spine as he vacates the White House.

One thing is for sure, if the case was reversed, the Republicans would have already sent the offending Democrats to the guillotine.

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code_red

code_red

Portland, OR
July 2005

SEP 12, 2007 03:42 PM

It seems to me that something is being ignored: The truth. Would it be possible, say, for people to not be afraid of big, bad, Bush and actually protect those that elected them?

Damn, I feel bad for being so greedy. whatever

NinjaTech

NinjaTech

Minneapolis, MN
November 2003

SEP 12, 2007 04:12 PM

legionnaire said:

NickFaust said:
Yeah, let's be clear, there are no bullet proof majorities in either house, and because of that, the Dems are vulnerable to the complaint that they are wasting time on impossible things for political gain.

You want action? Make sure you give the Dems bulletproof majorities in both houses in 2008.



They don't seem to be making the most of their majorities at all though. They may not be bulletproof but they're majorities nevertheless. Put up some votes in a way that's framed to make them incredibly uncomfortable to vote against (taking a page from the Republicans' playbook) - like sponsoring a bill called the "Honesty in Government Law" that would ensure that executive appointees like Miers are still subject to congressional subpoena power. If you were a politician, would you want to be on record as voting against" Honesty in Government"?

They need to at least try and flex some muscle before complaining that it's too hard to do.



I'd vote for you.

OhSoOrdinary

OhSoOrdinary

New York, NY
July 2006

SEP 12, 2007 04:13 PM

Wait... So what comes after outrage?

freshprncebelair

freshprncebelair

Ellicott City, MD
June 2004

SEP 12, 2007 04:17 PM



Bush is so unpopular and out of control that it is shocking, yet the Democrats have done nothing to check the president's belligerent power grab.



...Because they know that they will get to wield it once Bush and the republicans are voted out of office

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 12, 2007 04:22 PM

reprobate said:
Oh Jesus fucking Christ. Here's a tip:

1. You don't just file criminal charges against senior White House staff like you were ordering a happy meal.
2. Congress has been in fucking recess. There have been exactly eleven working days since the Committee sent their recommendation to the house.



Really, they've been in recess since July 12th? Good to know.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

SEP 12, 2007 04:28 PM

OhSoOrdinary said:
Wait... So what comes after outrage?



Apathy I believe.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

SEP 12, 2007 05:18 PM

bald_eagle said:
The question in my mind is whether this time - with this Supreme Court - is the right time to go to the mat on the extent of executive privilege.



The wonderful thing about the Supremes is that you just never can tell.

I mean Alito has been a big advocate of the unitary executive approach, and Scalia and Thomas get a kick out of making shit up and calling it "strict constuctionism." But Kennedy is definately a wildcard on this kind of issue.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

SEP 12, 2007 05:22 PM

freshprncebelair said:


Bush is so unpopular and out of control that it is shocking, yet the Democrats have done nothing to check the president's belligerent power grab.



...Because they know that they will get to wield it once Bush and the republicans are voted out of office



"They" won't. As they are not the executive branch. And the tension between congress and the executive has by no means been a strictly partisan issue.

I think that you are right about the Pres candidates though. So far only Edwards has come out strongly in favor of limiting executive power. And I will be honest the idea of Clinton or ANY of the Repuglies coming to office with what Bush is leaving behind scares the fuck out of me.

Flyer

Flyer

USA
August 2005

SEP 12, 2007 05:23 PM

the republicans and democrats have shared power since the civil war. neither party is worth a fuck. they both work to keep the status quo. they are one and the same. the lesser of two evils is still evil. most americans don't care.......as long as domino's delivers then life is good. this is a nation of lemmings.

Tiger_Fodder

Tiger_Fodder

Braintree, MA
June 2007

SEP 12, 2007 05:37 PM

flyer said:
the republicans and democrats have shared power since the civil war. neither party is worth a fuck. they both work to keep the status quo. they are one and the same. the lesser of two evils is still evil. most americans don't care.......as long as domino's delivers then life is good. this is a nation of lemmings.



+1

I know...ironic!

Rude_Ruca

Rude_Ruca

I'm lost
December 2004

SEP 12, 2007 06:47 PM

wait! we are closing in on an election year....isn't it about time the Democrats start losing their minds, anyway? whatever Let's just see what materializes in the next 15 months, geeze.....

Rude_Ruca

Rude_Ruca

I'm lost
December 2004

SEP 12, 2007 06:49 PM

NickFaust said:

freshprncebelair said:


Bush is so unpopular and out of control that it is shocking, yet the Democrats have done nothing to check the president's belligerent power grab.



...Because they know that they will get to wield it once Bush and the republicans are voted out of office



"They" won't. As they are not the executive branch. And the tension between congress and the executive has by no means been a strictly partisan issue.

I think that you are right about the Pres candidates though. So far only Edwards has come out strongly in favor of limiting executive power. And I will be honest the idea of Clinton or ANY of the Repuglies coming to office with what Bush is leaving behind scares the fuck out of me.



...and with that, Mr. Faust, I must agree....

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

SEP 12, 2007 10:09 PM

reprobate said:
Oh Jesus fucking Christ. Here's a tip:

1. You don't just file criminal charges against senior White House staff like you were ordering a happy meal.
2. Congress has been in fucking recess. There have been exactly eleven working days since the Committee sent their recommendation to the house.



Bingo!

Sammich

Sammich

Big Bear Lake, CA
January 2005

SEP 12, 2007 10:41 PM

The Democratic Party has gone to shit, The Republican party has gone to shit, VOTE LIBRETARIAN!!!

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 13, 2007 12:54 AM

ASSH0LE said:

reprobate said:
Oh Jesus fucking Christ. Here's a tip:

1. You don't just file criminal charges against senior White House staff like you were ordering a happy meal.
2. Congress has been in fucking recess. There have been exactly eleven working days since the Committee sent their recommendation to the house.



Bingo!



11 working days does not mean shit in politics. The fire has cooled and turned into a lump of ashes. But keep thinking it's a courtroom

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